Why do so many people hate walmart

[TheEngineer 188]

China has many problems, especially with the policies they have. The problem is companies from the United States are forced to pay such low amounts because of the government regulations there and the government regulations back in the United States(export tax, travel tax). With the amount of money it takes to do such things, it hinders on business profit and employee payment.

 

Right, and I agree that we should get rid of the taxes that are a burden to businesses in the form of transportation, property management, and income. I'm just saying that there are a number of ways to adapt to an increased tax burden, there are more ethical choices than paying people as little as possible. Let's not try and excuse immoral behavior, again, there are other businesses I can cite who, in the face of taxes and costs, do not fire workers or pay them substantially less.

[BronyPony 575]

Right, and I agree that we should get rid of the taxes that are a burden to businesses in the form of transportation, property management, and income. I'm just saying that there are a number of ways to adapt to an increased tax burden, there are more ethical choices than paying people as little as possible. Let's not try and excuse immoral behavior, again, there are other businesses I can cite who, in the face of taxes and costs, do not fire workers or pay them substantially less.

I am not excusing businesses for doing such actions, but I am finding the source of the problem to stop such exploitations. Also, business success is based on what type of business they are and how much money they make(ect.) that determines their progression in the business world.

[TheEngineer 188]

I am not excusing businesses for doing such actions, but I am finding the source of the problem to stop such exploitations. Also, business success is based on what type of business they are and how much money they make(ect.) that determines their progression in the business world.

Unfortunately, in today's materialist society, making money seems to be all that matters. In any case, I do mostly agree with you about the burden of taxation. 

 

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Edited March 31, 2013 by TheEngineer

[Broseph Stalin 103]

See? Finally, i'm not the only one who isn't a fan of capatalism. I say america moves on to socialism and be done with it.

But back to wal-mart.

Most people (or the people around me) hate wal-mart for one reason, and that reason if that they make products and sell them at exorbitant prices. And these products are a piece of shit. Pardon my french, but they are.

[Silverstream 51]

Walmart has a hold in the market

when it comes to  those of lower class income

and prices sadly and given a lot of us

don't have a lot of money to spend,   we take

cheap when we get it.  Some  shoppers

will try to  blame the workers also for a lot

of the problems but walmart believes one person

can run a whole department by themselves,  help out

shoppers,  stock and keep it clean and etc and

pay them less then shit and no befits or   threat to

fire them if they are working some other job just

to keep a roof over their head.  I should know,  i worked

for walmart for  year and a half,  did the job of three people

for one. person  So yah,  walmart is crap...and some

of the ppl they do hire are with shit i can also say and

lazy....

[Acoustic Cloud 2,202]

I don't like walmart for one reason... 

the one in my town stopped carrying the good pony stuff!!!!

lame.

 

But honestly, I don't like their service, their stock, their unit prices.

I can beat any price they have by going around town.

[Lunas Husband 2,777]

Because they are killing all the small Business's, and mom and pop stores too. Sure Walmart has some good stuff... and a lot of MLP stuff too.. which is super nice of them and the man who founded Walmart had a heart of gold and wanted to help everyone... but when he passed away, which sucks . His son and I think he had a daughter too anyway, they had take over it and made it from a place just wanting to help everyone to.. a money hunger business... and that's more then likely why.

 

 

Or they don't like Walmart because the name is silly..

Edited November 29, 2013 by Princess Pinkie Pie

[BronyPony 575]

See? Finally, i'm not the only one who isn't a fan of capatalism. I say america moves on to socialism and be done with it.

But back to wal-mart.

Most people (or the people around me) hate wal-mart for one reason, and that reason if that they make products and sell them at exorbitant prices. And these products are a piece of shit. Pardon my french, but they are.

 

It's funny how you argue that Capitalism is the evil and should be replaced by socialism yet it was the driving force of the current technological age we are in right now. It is the reason why you can buy computers and other gadgets for such low prices. Please, save your kind of comments for those who don't even understand what Capitalism has provided the world.

I don't like walmart for one reason... 

the one in my town stopped carrying the good pony stuff!!!!

lame.

 

But honestly, I don't like their service, their stock, their unit prices.

I can beat any price they have by going around town.

Inability to bear the prices of a specific business doesn't really justify the willing to hate them. If you don't want to use their service then don't.

Because they are killing all the small Business's, and mom and pop stores too. Sure Walmart has some good stuff... and a lot of MLP stuff too.. which is super nice of them and the man who founded Walmart had a heart of gold and wanted to help everyone... but when he passed away, which sucks . His son and I think he had a daughter too anyway, they had take over it and made it from a place just wanting to help everyone to.. a money hunger business... and that's more then likely why.

 

 

Or they don't like Walmart because the name is silly..

It is the Creative Destruction process of the free-market. There are things that get destroyed and others that are built because(not in a offensive way) people are more willing to use Walmart to get necessary goods. When you enter the area of business you must be prepared to be overrun.

I really don't hate capitalism, I'm in favor of a mixed economy and I still am not a fan of Wal-Mart.

 

 

Wal-Mart, a company whose profits are in the billions and grow every year (including this one), can afford to pay their producers in other nations a few extra dollars per person and give more back to the economies which make up a substantial part of their supply chain. 

 

Government regulations in the US also are really not that awful and corporate tax rates are not as burdening as some would claim. If you want a counter-example of a company that has made profits and paid people more, an easy example is CostCo. which has not only done extremely well in the market, but, in addition to a $40,000+ a year salary for employees, offers them an attractive healthcare package. Big businesses do not have to cut back on worker's salaries either in the US or abroad to be successful, such a claim only holds up in arguments because people assume it is the only way. Instead of the only way, in fact, it is the least ethical way to create profits. 

If you are aware, there is an increase in unemployment because of government regulations, such as the minimum wage. 

 

http://www.examiner.com/article/government-regulations-destroying-more-jobs

 

The only reason why they are still thriving is because it already had a profit to sustain from regulations. However, other businesses are being imploded and destroyed by the roof of regulation. 

 

Also, ethics is not a responsibility of Capitalism. It is the responsibility of the consumer.

 

Here are some articles stating how regulation has brought implosion on businesses:

 

http://bunkerville.wordpress.com/2013/11/04/last-u-s-lead-ammo-company-shut-down-by-epa/

 

http://www.governing.com/gov-data/energy-environment/coal-plants-to-shut-down-from-EPA-regulations.html

 

http://gunssavelives.net/news/last-u-s-lead-smelter-to-close-in-december-due-to-epa-might-affect-ammo-production/

[CT-1138 3,180]

I hate them because their corpulent owners are raking it in and are so damned disgustingly greedy they can't even pay their employees a decent wage and to top it off, they hire d-bag managers out of office so there's no hope for promotion.

 

And before you say "the Walton's earn that, they worked hard for that company!" No. No they didn't. Their father, Sam Walton, DID earn that money, and he was also a decent man and a decent employer. Unfortunately, his legacy are greedy, lazy, immoral pigs who don't do anything to deserve the billions they receive.

[Legacy Dash 438]

No Wallmart in Australia. 

Although, it sounds like an awesome shop. A shop for everything, nothing like that in Australia - Target is the closest you'll get.

[Klopp 2,050]

I actually work at Wal-Mart myself, and I can attest to the fact that workers there are indeed underpayed. What I do in my store, keeping track of inventory and pretty much making sure the whole place remains organized, at other places I could get payed far more doing the exact same thing. (I've tried getting those jobs other places, but unlike at Wal-Mart, no one wants to leave that job anywhere else) Another thing is no matter how hard a worker you are, you won't get a raise but once a year on the anniversary of your starting there. Most other jobs will give you a raise when you deserve it simply for being a hard worker. In addition to all that, loads of Wal-Mart stores are understaffed, leaving associates to work twice as hard, just to save them a few extra dollars that they really don't need.

 

Apart from underpaying employees though, many of what others have said in this thread is true. The main thing that bothers me though is they play a large role in harming America's economy. Part of this is due to outsourcing. They have millions of workers in China and such, (Underpaying them even worse, of course) but if they were to actually keep the work in America that would be loads more jobs for those of us here, then the unemployment figures and sheer number of homeless people wouldn't be so terrible. They might be underpayed, but at least they would be able to live.

 

And then there's the fact that they always manage to find a way to evade taxes, to the point where they basically short-change the government by hundreds of millions of dollars. The US national debt could really benefit from Wal-Mart (And other fortune 500 companies, for that matter) executives not being such greedy assholes. To them it's not worth it to help in fixing the economy if they have to spend one or two billion of their fifty billion dollars.

[CT-1138 3,180]

If you are aware, there is an increase in unemployment because of government regulations, such as the minimum wage. 

 

http://www.examiner.com/article/government-regulations-destroying-more-jobs

 

The only reason why they are still thriving is because it already had a profit to sustain from regulations. However, other businesses are being imploded and destroyed by the roof of regulation. 

 

Also, ethics is not a responsibility of Capitalism. It is the responsibility of the consumer.

 

Here are some articles stating how regulation has brought implosion on businesses:

 

http://bunkerville.wordpress.com/2013/11/04/last-u-s-lead-ammo-company-shut-down-by-epa/

 

http://www.governing.com/gov-data/energy-environment/coal-plants-to-shut-down-from-EPA-regulations.html

 

http://gunssavelives.net/news/last-u-s-lead-smelter-to-close-in-december-due-to-epa-might-affect-ammo-production/

Minimum wages or regulations doesn't hurt businesses, it's the greedy bigwigs on top who don't want to give up their giant yachts and multimillion dollar mansions. Most company hotshots don't get where they are through hard work and patience anymore. They get there by being conniving and by making their competition look bad. That's how everybody gets ahead anymore and its sickening. Because people don't want to do the right thing (putting a little more into the budget to update your coal plant, for example), they cut corners, take short cuts, and that's why our infrastructure in the US is shit: people wanting to do the minimal amount of work for the least cost. EPA doesn't shut down anything that's not worth shutting down. If you'd rather live in a smoke filled world, having to walk around with a gas mask like in China, be my guest, but I enjoy my fresh air and clean water. Oh wait, thanks to cheapskate corporations, Americans can't even get that!

 

And for the record, ethics is everybody's responsibility, even Walmart's. If you forego ethical treatment of a fellow human being in the face of the All-Mighty dollar, you're no better than a common thief, taking what you don't deserve. 

 

[The Cynical Lone Wolf 614]

I persnally hate Walmart for the following reasons

• The atomoshere is depressing as hell and when I get dperessed I get angry
• The people who shop there 
• Crimes happen at Walmart more than any other store
• The people who stock things do it half fast  and everything is disorganized 
• The help sucks there

[BronyPony 575]

Minimum wages or regulations doesn't hurt businesses, it's the greedy bigwigs on top who don't want to give up their giant yachts and multimillion dollar mansions. Most company hotshots don't get where they are through hard work and patience anymore. They get there by being conniving and by making their competition look bad. That's how everybody gets ahead anymore and its sickening. Because people don't want to do the right thing (putting a little more into the budget to update your coal plant, for example), they cut corners, take short cuts, and that's why our infrastructure in the US is shit: people wanting to do the minimal amount of work for the least cost. EPA doesn't shut down anything that's not worth shutting down. If you'd rather live in a smoke filled world, having to walk around with a gas mask like in China, be my guest, but I enjoy my fresh air and clean water. Oh wait, thanks to cheapskate corporations, Americans can't even get that!

 

And for the record, ethics is everybody's responsibility, even Walmart's. If you forego ethical treatment of a fellow human being in the face of the All-Mighty dollar, you're no better than a common thief, taking what you don't deserve. 

I never said it wasn't anybody's responsibility. I said it isn't Capitalism's responsibility. It is up to the consumer to make decisions to control the market so that such ethical choices are made.

 

And please, save your bigotry for when people can actually bear unjustified ranting.

[Frith is Magick 1,471]

My older sister used to work at Walmart. She was relatively high up, in charge of claims, and she earned less than my starting wage in a lower position at another business. On one occasion a sewer line backed up, and water from the drain reached some of the produce on the bottom pallets. Instead of getting rid of it, the manager had it put on the shelves anyway. In addition to underpaying workers, they tend to intentionally under-staff stores and hire workers who have a difficult time getting hired elsewhere. They slash every penny possible, reducing quality in the process. They undercut competition and put other stores out of business. This is part of the natural process, my problem is that Walmart offers inferior products, thus the market suffers despite lower prices.

 

Personally, I never shop at Walmart. I get embarrassed if I even walk past one. I am one of the cheapest people I know, but I have no intention of supporting a business that offers low quality products and abuses workers locally and abroad.

[CT-1138 3,180]

I never said it wasn't anybody's responsibility. I said it isn't Capitalism's responsibility. It is up to the consumer to make decisions to control the market so that such ethical choices are made.

 

And please, save your bigotry for when people can actually bear unjustified ranting.

Capitalism is nothing more than an idea, but it entails both corporation and consumer and both share a responsibility towards helping each other.  Walmart should pay people better wages so that people can have more money to spend. That stimulates the market and makes a nice back and forth between consumer and company, which is how capitalism should work. The Walton Family don't see that. They want to take, but not to give, and that is their weakness and that is why I hate Walmart. 

 

Oh, and as a reminder, never insult my person again please. It's unsporting and makes the experience of a clean debate rather unenjoyable. 

[Inactive01 5,298]

Well here's something for you all to consider when hating Wal-Mart. I think it'll add to it quite nicely .

 

[Harmonic Revelations 8,833]

I hate Walmart because it drove all the small businesses that used to be around here out of business, even though Walmart's products are far inferior.

[Gone Airbourne 21,969]

Walmart worked there for a couple of months myself.

 

I hate it for mostly the people who shop there but not all but some. I rarely ever go but if I do I usually get like 1-3 things at most. Idk a lot of the time of being a customer myself. Just about (not all the time) the majority of the time when I have asked for help they would send me to the wrong place to find what I was looking for... Then later on finding it myself so from now on I usually always just find things on my own. After working there like Klopp said the employees do get a very low wage for what they actually do. Walmart is like mcdonalds its everywhere you go and it is the exact same wherever you go.

[BronyPony 575]

Capitalism is nothing more than an idea, but it entails both corporation and consumer and both share a responsibility towards helping each other.  Walmart should pay people better wages so that people can have more money to spend. That stimulates the market and makes a nice back and forth between consumer and company, which is how capitalism should work. The Walton Family don't see that. They want to take, but not to give, and that is their weakness and that is why I hate Walmart. 

 

Oh, and as a reminder, never insult my person again please. It's unsporting and makes the experience of a clean debate rather unenjoyable. 

I never attacked you. I attacked your comment. There is a difference.

Capitalism is nothing more than an idea, but it entails both corporation and consumer and both share a responsibility towards helping each other.  Walmart should pay people better wages so that people can have more money to spend. That stimulates the market and makes a nice back and forth between consumer and company, which is how capitalism should work. The Walton Family don't see that. They want to take, but not to give, and that is their weakness and that is why I hate Walmart. 

Paying higher wages does not stimulate the economy. More quality production stimulates the economy. The wages reflects that stimulation from the production of goods.

[CT-1138 3,180]

Paying higher wages does not stimulate the economy. More quality production stimulates the economy. The wages reflects that stimulation from the production of goods.

Lemme guess, Reaganomics? Most economic models actually show that consumer orientated economics show higher economies. Employees who can be consumers are more inclined to out their money back into the market. The WHOLE market, not just one store. THAT'S a free market, which walmart doesn't participate in. Paying employees better wages is the first step. It gives consumers more money in their pockets to spend at stores, which in turn gives stores more money to make more products. Demand and supply.

[Rinkitty 589]

I honestly have no idea. It pretty much has everything a poor person like me could need. 

Edited December 2, 2013 by The Dark Passenger

[SharpWit 2,472]

     Why do so many people hate Wal-Mart. I mean I hear from everyone It destroys small business it kills competition. I hear they destroy lives and underpay their workers. Some people say their lines are the longest in the world. And lastly they discriminate by not hiring minorities.

 

But is all of that true. I mean I know the longest lines in the world part is true I mean come on at midnight there will be a line for batteries, and etc. But can anyone explain the somewhat ridiculous hatred of Wal-Mart???

It's not ridiculous. It's Walmart. that's what they do and you've heard right. They prey on the week and profit off of the desperate and unfortunate. Yeah they have some great deals and since they started putting in Mcdonalds kids are happier and more obese than ever. But that's the only good thing about them. They're affordable for all.

[Slice0Pie 815]

I am guessing because Walmart is always so busy, it has a lot of mean people, and you get the shopping fever

[BronyPony 575]

Lemme guess, Reaganomics? Most economic models actually show that consumer orientated economics show higher economies. Employees who can be consumers are more inclined to out their money back into the market. The WHOLE market, not just one store. THAT'S a free market, which walmart doesn't participate in. Paying employees better wages is the first step. It gives consumers more money in their pockets to spend at stores, which in turn gives stores more money to make more products. Demand and supply.

You really need to investigate more into economics entirely because Reaganomics is not I was talking about. Reaganomics involves the trickle-down model where money flows down the system, eventually allowing the lower and middle class to gain access to this wealth. Stimulation of economy does not begin from the increase in wage, but the increase of production, as I stated before. The wage and wealth of the nation reflects this production, as stated before. 

 

What benefit does increasing wages do if there is the same amount of production? All it does is increase the amount a product or set of products is which only encourages people NOT to buy those products. You have to look at the consequences on BOTH ends in order to be successful in deriving a working model. Increase the wage of workers and you increase the costs of products which does not increase benefits. Increase of production is needed. This is what stimulates the economy. And this means QUALITY production.

Edited December 2, 2013 by BronyPony