1 minute ago, Jeric said:

The way they do it is idiotic.

If a country honestly wants to force health on its citizens it would regulate and restrict imports of sugars into their country and ban domestic production of it. Less sugar means less obesity. 

The Libertarian side of me would be opposed to this in the US, but I'm extremely comfortable with the knowledge that such a ban is impossible in this nation thanks to campaign donors and constituency. Coca Cola has lots more money than its opposition on this matter, and it's such a fringe concept in the US that it will never see the light of day. When NYC tried to just reduce the size of soda ... it was tossed out. 

Sugar is a strong lobby, and as the internet has proven time and again, people are often prone to weakness and limited self control. 

I do agree that while people shouldn't harass or troll obese people, it isn't a good idea to applaud or normalize it. It simply comes down to not being a dick, you know?

Well its more a pity for people who gets joy from watching people suffering. Like if people have health issues or have it bad, even if lets say they are demeaning to you that doesn't make it right to do it back. It only hurts more. But the only sort of "troll" stuff i do is to watch (which is very rare) fat triggered videos on youtube. Like i won't recommend it because the comments are toxic, and i don't think of them as any less. But its more for cheap slapsticks which i know is bad but i guess its a way to make me take out frustration in things at times.

But i sort of agree with you. One should learn to control ones eating habits. Which is why "no exception" only saturday i can eat one snack or chocolate box etc. But i can also easily avoid it, its optional. But basically other days "NO" just zero, even if i skip it i say no. Thats a perfect example of self control. You just have to remind yourself, its all about the habit i think and that way i think it will just work so well for you. But in other cases i don't find comfort in real pain and misery of other people.

Hi. Welcome, welcome, welcome!

On 17.7.2017 at 11:42 PM, Methuselah said:

 

"Your content length is below the threshold required to post." He that hath knowledge spareth his words: And a man of understanding is of an excellent spirit. Proverbs 17:27

But Jesus don't exist in MLP universe. Judaism came as a result of nations oppression of that barren area, like Egyptians, Babylonians, you name it. So their one God, aka jealous god sort of wanted to show how he is much better. If you take booties of war for example, in roman view sex slavery was probably ok, for israelites you had to marry them and they had to be virgins in terms of spoils of wars if not unvirgin women and men was likely slaughtered, children was taken captives though from what i read i think, woman apparently didn't have rights since if you were a warlord its not like tempting to die if you are not gonna get something for it, its just a contrast to what the other nations was doing at the time, sort of like a reflection, its evil but in comparison they wanted to expose them as evil, and besides if you warred back then then people would likely not go to war unless they could have sex with booties and such or well in terms of good and what you get for being in a war, so this was the so called morale opposition to everything the other nations that God of Abraham would consider evil.

Btw this is a challenge i have for you, try looking what the other nations did like human sacrifice, see if God of the old condemns it or not "sadly some misinformed people uses accidents or revenge as thinking god of abraham is ok with human sacrifice in general which is misleading like a vow he did to sacrifice his daughter, the lesson is not to give false vows but either way god of abraham is saying repeatetly he doesnt want or see human sacrifice as good" but basically thats the challenge. Try to see if there is any things in the old is saying and doing in practice, and see what the nations did and see the reflection, sex, drinking, gluttony, envy, greed. That stuff. Its pretty much interesting. Why is virginity so important for example that someone is raped but has to marry? How valued it was (then again i am unsure if you can divorce if father absolutely despises the person, afterall the father was the charge and head of the womans virtue and role) compared to immorale view of a world in chaos in their world. Its really interesting the reflection it gives from the two worlds of ideas.

Deuteronomy 22:28-29

 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, ²⁹ he shall pay her father fifty shekels^[a] of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.

 

Exodus 22:16-17

¹⁶ “If a man seduces a virgin who is not pledged to be married and sleeps with her, he must pay the bride-price, and she shall be his wife. ¹⁷ If her father absolutely refuses to give her to him, he must still pay the bride-price for virgins.

I think the main conclusion is the main intention is to be good. You do evil you wanna expose them as such. I just have a feeling its sort of an absolute rule that is to prevent you from going back there. And that aslong as your intents are good then everything is alright. Thats why you sort of have 1 god, no idols to not confuse you. I can name everything in contrast but you get what i mean i think :3

In either case Jesus as a savior simply came because well things were just not going so well, biblically speaking northern israel of Samaria were all corrupt, kingdom of judah in south after death of King Solomon which is the reason it split into two before that it was just "Israel". essentially kingdom of judah had some just kings but mostly corrupt from what i heard.

In terms of Jesus, a messiah would come if things started going too bad and deliberate a new covenant according to Jeremiah that he didnt make with the people who moses guided. So you could say this was a good oppurtunity to have a religion of salvation for mankind. But really its a reason why Christianity is the most popular and Islam the second. The other religions lost because there is no consequences, they are more like philosophies so they arent nearly as popular due to lack of judgement, heaven and hell. Like i am sceptical to the idea. But as a system its very effective, because it puts people back in line if they stray as to say, get back again and even if you back out the religion itself lives on in scriptures. I personally won't tell what is right because even i dont know most of the time. The best way would not to fight but to create peace and just come to that conclusion, the main thing is just live accoridngly to your beliefs and do your best that way, atleast how i see it. Christianity afterall survived under Roman empire, if an oppressive force threatens it and someone believes its true then it essentially gets followers if they truly think its right. Thats atleast how i think of it.

In MLP i guess they have had no serious agony to sort of go for it. They are already living moral lives so no need to have something to remind them

I googled more. B12 again is only in meat or bacteria

https://www.vegansociety.com/resources/nutrition-and-health/nutrients/vitamin-b12/what-every-vegan-should-know-about-vitamin-b12
( Very low B12 intakes can cause anemia and nervous system damage. The only reliable vegan sources of B12 are foods fortified with B12 (including some plant milks, some soy products and some breakfast cereals) and B12 supplements. Vitamin B12, whether in supplements, fortified foods, or animal products, comes from micro-organisms. Most vegans consume enough B12 to avoid anemia and nervous system damage, but many do not get enough to minimize potential risk of heart disease or pregnancy complications. )

Why would anyone actually go through this is my question.

Its almost like it should sort of be illegal because i feel its some sort of promoting self denial and self hate mental illness. The best way to live is to eat healthy food, meat, fruits.. whatever. Like i am not trying to sound rude but its really how i feel with people like this.

10 minutes ago, Lunar Echo said:

That depends on what you want out of life, do you just want to be healthy and fed or are you training to become Mr Olympia? Body Builders constantly eat, constantly think, food food food, what's to eat next, their whole life becomes food and working out, it's an condition called bigorexia. And a lot of these guys you see, aren't natural and don't get that big from just working out and eating lots of meat, they take steroids, here is a good example of how much we've changed due to the increase in popularity with steroids:

Average Muscled Vietnam Era Soldier:

Average Modern Day Muscled Soldier:

I don't think all bodybuilders or athletes do steroids though. I didn't realise muscles = cheating. Like isn't that like saying skinny people are all heroin addicts.

Just now, Lunar Echo said:

Like you said, you weren't brought up in that environment so naturally is looks a bit bonkers to you, but people from there will also look towards you and your people as a little bonkers too. It makes more sense if you live there and are well and truly invested in their culture and way of life (having parents there or a love interest or a friend) but they're still people looking for security, success, happiness all the same, they just have a different way/means of achieving it. And it won't solve world hunger if everyone started being vegan but it's certainly another factor and a growing one, it's much easier to produce plant based foods than meat based, meat takes time and requires a lot of quality control to ensure what you're putting into your body is as good as it gets to ensure you live a long and healthy life.

Like it sounds like a good philosophy. But lets say "WWE John Cena", like do you think John Cena would look like John Cena if he only ate greens and had b12 medical help in terms of modern medicine. I am just curious if that is actually possible.

4 minutes ago, Lunar Echo said:

No, quite a few members of my family are vegan and I actually really like a lot of vegan meals, and it has been around since the dark ages, India is probably the most vegan friendly place on Earth currently. And from what I've noticed, Vegans are treated pretty well in society, if someone doesn't like eating meat most people will happily make something without it. And as the population of the world grows to staggering new heights, meat is going to become much more scarce so vegans are doing us a favour be reducing the consumption and demand for it saving more of the wild life and reducing the increase of artificially created meat.

Good philosophy. But what about lack of muscles? Won't removal of meat have bi effects, i don't think eating green will add effects to the mass of it. If its important in your life i mean.

Also i don't buy much into eastern religions that much, they are interesting but i don't find them terrifying enough to sort of put people in line. That's one thing they lack in a sense of discipline and thats why i think they lost the religious cultural life. While yes God of Abraham is not really wishing for that to be intent as in panick, but the whole moral compass is to fear god so that people can act accordingly to that system. Although doubt or scepticism is normal. But when it all comes down to it. Like i try not to think too much about it but thats essentially a winning factor of having a successful religion in my view and a moral compass. But the best thing is just do your best and thats life to me atleast, just be good and friendly to people you meet.

And while i am not trying to be disrespectful to hinduism, as a child and i still do, i find the religion weird. I am not saying its bad, just weird. The images, the whole system just seem bizarre to me. All i can say about it is its one of the oldest religions and for that historically its interesting.

On 9.8.2017 at 5:08 AM, Princess Moony said:

Speaking of vegetarians I just found out,that japan used to be a vegetarian country thanks to a religion >~> they didn't eat meat for 1,200 years until westerners came >~< Here's a link to a article 

https://www.kikkoman.co.jp/kiifc/foodculture/pdf_09/e_002_008.pdf

That seems impossible to me. I mean refraining ok maybe thats possible but your body needs b12 which essentially is either in meat or dairy products (though i can't stand dairy products to be honest) but atleast for a religious buddhist it would work. I can't imagine samurais fighting in that state, they would essentially feel sleepy if they atleast didn't eat right

Though i have heard Buddhism in terms of religion is vegetarian, how in some forms i have no idea about. Like do they eat dairy products for example? I am a tad bit ignorant on it, but i doubt japanese soldiers would all be buddhists, and isn't Japan's state religion Shintoism. Thats not buddhism, even if buddhism has had a impact too on Japanese culture

Either case here is a link for it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_vegetarianism#Japanese_traditions

Blaming westerners for. Imperialism, bigotry, intolerance and racism in the past before after WW2 when self reflection and owning up to mistakes became a thing. Ok that i can sort of get. But the food ethics i am sorry thats a bit too much XD

I also read this if buddhism originally prohibeted meat and if it was very pro vegetarianism as some vegans would say. The answer seems to be "maybe, maybe not" its not clear really.. For example what animals is allowed to eat, what intentions you have seems to be the moral compass really. The sects divided over it so it seems to depend how seriously you take it. To me it doesn't seem to really be about vegetarianism, it just seems to give up material goods and live a simple life and be a grateful humble human being. Which is why it says "if something is slaughtered to give food to a village or family its ok". So it really just depends how you see it.
https://www.thoughtco.com/buddhism-and-vegetarianism-449731

Atleast it condemns extremist attitude towards the goal. But really i think calling buddhism vegan would just be misleading since the goal is much more bigger than an agenda rule of thumb. I just recommend reading that link if you wanna know about it. Its very informative.

Kind of interesting considering the anatomy and such.

14 minutes ago, Meeps said:

@SunshineFlow, I heard something about Japan's fat tax. What do you think about that? I personally don't think it would be a good idea if the government regulated gluttony, because as

No friggin way. Thats kind of awesome. Good for them i think!

I don't hate them. But its this pretentious self denial stuff of being omnivore that annoys me about them a little bit. Now i don't know if eating b12 tablets, getting shots or taking b12 pills is just as healthy as eating healthy meat. But i just can't help imagining vegans as this one time in the movie with Nicholas Cage where he asks for pills and he goes nuts or something

It doesn't help. Unless you want less oxygen to your blood cells (which means you will get sleepy most of the time). b12 vitamins is in meat, unless you wanna get it from shots or b12 pills in medicine considering some vegetarians argue that it exists in bacteria so that way some avoid it. But then again if you choose that lifestyle you have to live with it for the rest of your life, which i assume some can do by taking it in tablet forms of some sort each day. (whether this actual have functional bi effects i have zero idea about but i'm not gonna try it to find out)

Thats atleast what i read online. So either way if you are serious about this then atleast see a doctor and hear about it, don't start your own course, b12 is essentially important. Whether this is healthy or not i have no idea about. Or you can just ignore it and just eat meat, healthy ones atleast.

In either case eat when you need to and live a good healthy life that way.

Oh man thats not healthy. Soda i mean. I get frozen pizza on saturdays if that counts, for regular dinners it usually is 2 hot dogs, and for breakfast 2 slices of ham on bread. And drinks are water and water.

The only problem i can think of is what is it gonna be about? Is it going to be like a open sim world? Or there's a fan made game called Legend of Equestria which is pretty fun if you haven't tried it. You can talk and interact with people online there and get quests.

It would be interesting. There do exist an iOS video game of my little pony.

3 hours ago, Jeric said:

Gluttony =/= Obesity. I don't even have to attack this by defending the overweight. I can use myself. 

 

I'm 5'9 and 140 pounds ...smack dab in the middle of the healthy lower and upper limit. Basically, I'm the perfect general weight for my height. Here's the thing, I bet I can out eat you if you are twice my weight. I know. I do it all the time. I could explain my catabolic/anabolic and basal rates ... but simply stated ... I'm thin as hell and eat all the time. 

To rub it in harder, I smoked for 16 years and ... lungs are perfectly fine. I eat what I want and my blood work is freaking phenomenal. I am 40 but look and sound like I'm in my 20's. I'm not just a guy online here either. About 20 people on MLPF have seen me in person and know all this for a fact. 

So ... you wanna deprive me of my two double quarter pounders, Big Mac, and three large fries? Because ... I'm probably a skinnier and healthier looking glutton? Ha! 

=D 

#dnamatters 

Some people are born different. But i'm not a cartoon character, neither do i have high burnning insides. So i have to stick to the rules of geneticks. Do i call you lucky in a sense. But not everyone is born a A body, some has to work for it : 3

6 hours ago, GrimGrimoire said:

Yeah I don't think a horror franchise like Saw would make any sort of cameo in MLP, nor should it. Maybe some of the horror franchises like Friday the 13th with the mask that has become more pop culture than true horror... but not something like Saw.

 

I am sorry Chrylestia, I know you won't like hearing this, but it is what it is... the makers of the film did indeed intend for it to be a gorefest... they made the film, they had complete control of what they put out. If that was not their intent they most certainly could have toned it back. No one said they did not have a story to tell.... even the most horrible films can be telling a story, that has nothing to do with how the story is presented. Whether or not they wanted to make a torture porn film or not, that is what they made... so much so that it was replicated 6 (assumingly 7) more times with increasing fervor to please the horror fans who demanded more. Make no mistake... the original film may have wanted to tell a twisted tale, but the fans of excessive gore and cruelty are what kept it coming back. I have yet to ever hear anyone say "I just go see the Saw films for the storyline!" And of course that goes for most slasher flicks and over the top murder or death spree films. You may want to tell your version of War and Peace.. but when you fill it with reverse bear traps you are gathering a certain type of audience. Which is fine... if people enjoy that type of film, more power to them. We don't all have to enjoy the same things after all.

And I will agree... Jigsaw was a well thought out and effective villain. A truly twisted and monstrous individual that had a horrific outlook upon the world and society as we know it, and decided to add his own savagery to the mix instead of trying to think of actual ways to better it.

 

No it isn't. In fact it is one of the worst. Who decides who is worthy of life? By that philosophy if someone hates MLP and fans of it,  then they deserve to die and should be allowed to act upon it. Once upon a time there was a man who had that philosophy, and he did a pretty thorough job of making his vision come to life... a lot of innocent people died because of it (around 20-25 Million or so if you add them all up by many reports) and a lot more people went to war to put a stop to it.

It is not a philosophy... it is a bigots wet dream come true.

 

That guy isn't a bigot though. He just believe in a society where humanity appreciate and wanna contribute to society. If he was a bigot he wouldn't be for healthcare as a right, the typical rich guy who don't care for the suffering of other humans would say the opposite of condemning people. He is however anti evil in a sense of justice.

Also its not like you get picked in Saw unless you have done something criminal, though thats not always the case. For example there is this case of Razor wire maze trap where a guy is trying to commit suicide was the reason that he was picked, that is one example of the typical victims John picks who he thinks of, aka people who don't appreciate life. Like i know some of it is sick sometimes in some cases but thats his philosophy atleast.

4 hours ago, KillerKingBakudan said:

Not if she's the law of the land, and she's the one telling you to do it.

But in my world we go to jail for that : 3

3 hours ago, Dreambiscuit said:

God gives humans free will and very specific instructions of how to use it for the ultimate happiness of themselves and others while strengthening us against temptations and weakness. It's not always easy, but life on this earth is a classroom designed to teach us to overcome adversity and strengthen the spirit. Having free will, we as humans make a lot of our own sufferings (and often put the blame somewhere else). There is suffering in the world, but just imagine how much of it would be alleviated if we listened to what God asks and 'do unto others'? If we all chipped in and gave more of our time, expertise and resources there would be a lot less hardship. 

As far as Heaven and Hell, I believe there is both. But I firmly believe that everyone goes to Heaven (that wishes to, although I can't imagine anyone not wanting to). I believe that Hell is a place where evil dwells but not as a place that people are sent to as a punishment. God is all love and forgiveness and wants us to return to Heaven after this earthly life, which is too short and fleeting to bring about an eternal punishment in Hell. I think the only real 'hell' that anyone would have to endure is the one we make for ourselves in the form of the mistakes and resulting regret of our actions on this earth. When we bring our worldly experiences into the next life, we'll look back and see the bad things we did and carry that with us until we can forgive ourselves. So in that respect, eternal punishment' is from the baggage we bring with us.  

I'm not trying to pinpoint God. What i'm saying is his creation doesn't make sense. If he knows everything, is all loving. He would protect his creation from harm from evil forces not point the blame for having created this problem. I just think the idea of being judged for something he created feels wrong to me

Like i understand the philosophical concept, be good, dont do bad to other people. But i don't understand the afterlife idea. Like i understand why human need judges, we know we are evil and so we need a court system for that or advisers etc. But for a god who was responsible for it doesn't really add up to me.

I will for example say this is a good moral lesson. While even if its true in terms of someone doesn't wanna improve. It still hurts both you and the victim in some sense. So there is some good moral teachings in some cases. And its just not helping its just inciteful and it doesn't make progress and is just thoughtless

A real therapist tends to have personal discreet between its patients, i am not sure how it works if they just agree or if they get something from it, but i don't wanna come off as insulting its either way interesting and thats whats matter to me. But it is sort of interesting what issues they come up with, even if its fake, which i don't try to think about i think its pretty interesting.

I wouldn't say its a 1,2 and 3. But if you say to yourself each day.. i wont eat other than what i need today everyday and like excercise for about 6 days a week. 7 is optional on saturdays. But basically thats all you need to say is Monday-Friday and Sunday. No junk, no exceptions and you have to be strict with yourself and on saturday its ok but you dont have to eat junk, its just optional. But even if you skip it you can NEVER eat outside that day. Very important that you are strict, if you do that then its easy.

I played games as a kid, so i have nostalgic attitude towards what i ate then and what i eat as an adult. Its just use that common sense and just dont care what people do or eat. Just avoid it and it should be fine. Thats my recommendation atleast. Having hobbies outside of it is nothing wrong though. That usually help, you just have to be strict and you can do it.

Try to imagine them being on YouTube. Sorry, its against our policy to allow such people here. Maybe its not that they are fat, but that they are promoters, this is not to say thin people who says have some cake. But when they make fat food jokes like "torture horror scene with food" like have a pepsi, "because a youtuber sent them there"

If that makes sense. I dunno, i just have read some messed up views about it on the internet and i sort of shake my head what people write to be honest. But if that law got passed on google or youtube, then what would your reaction be?

Now all that is missing is that Jigsaw laugh.

49 minutes ago, Jeric said:

Highly disagree.

That's all I'll say about that bit.

Saw is an absurd series anyway ... And from 2 on it amounts to nothing more than torture porn. 

sigh.

I an not usually a judgemental person, I'm fine with people with all sorts of interests and tastes. That said, I keep my distance from those that enjoy gore in FiM media. 

Pass. 

 

 

Sure it is. It was given as an opinion. I think the series is absolute garbage and I hate I wasted a few hours of my life watching it. It's shit. Opinion. The only fact check to that being my opinion is that I had the agency to make said opinion, and since I am not under any mind control at the moment .... it checks out. 

I wouldn't say teaching a life lesson = garbage. MLP does teach about friendship and to learn from those mistakes that way. But saw learns not to take life for granted of a lowly lifestyle. Thats what these are, to scare you to appreciate life in general. Which i think is great. And despite being somewhat sick, i usually am interested in what torture methods or devices they use in the series. Even if some are weird i still appreciate the work they put into it.

Technically i like them. But i don't wanna come of as weird, so i only do it if someone does it to me.