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It's been 3 years since this topic was first discussed. I joined the Brony fandom last year and yes, it's a bit of a bummer when you join after the peak and can only look at what was created before you. Yes, the fandom is in decline now: First, MLP's popularity began to decline after 2016-2017, as this is a natural decline in interest in something. Second, the end of the series itself caused a decline in activity, because to maintain the fandom's activity, some kind of permanent and official content is needed. Third, the complete failure of G5 had a negative effect on the fandom. As a result of the failure, almost no new people came to the fandom, and there was another split within the fandom. Well, and besides, it was a blow to the franchise as a whole. After G4, there were high demands on G5, and it did not live up to any expectations. Fourth, there was less activity from the members of the fandom itself. BUT DON'T BE DESPAIRY! I WILL GIVE YOU HOPE! G4(FiM) created a large universe in the pony world, which can be developed further. In addition, the show itself has grown a large audience that is familiar with MLP, a very large fandom, from which in the future people can come out who can create one of the next generations of MLP (G6, G7, G8, etc.), which will become as popular as G4(FiM), and even surpass it in popularity. Or another studio will do it, not Hasbro, but someone else from the fans. Again, there are all the reasons and prerequisites for such an outcome.
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Hasbro's revenue drops to a record low within just two years
Kantet commented on FirePuppy's blog entry in After 7 years of MLP: FiM...
Yes, you are an optimist, sir. I would say much more categorically about the complete failure of G5. But in general, on the topic, I hope that such financial drawdowns of Hasbro will force them to reconsider their strategy on many things, including MLP. I hope that this will heal their heads and they will return to the path that G4 (FiM) and Lauren Faust put them on. -
staff Staffer Of The Week: Luna The Great of All of Russias!
Kantet replied to Ice Princess Silky <3's topic in Throne Room
@Luna the Great of all the Russias Wow, you draw beautifully. p.s. I'm also a brony from Russia!! -
I joined the fandom a year ago and you know, I had exactly the same feeling as you. I watched the whole series, then started studying fan content. But somehow I feel uneasy from the feeling that I was "late" for most of the events, for some special atmosphere of that time. The fandom is still quite alive, as I see it, in general it is quite special, I hope that the specialness will appear even later. I hope for the best and would like to put my efforts to revive and take off the fandom, to its revival so that users with pony-avatars can often be found on the Internet again)
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Just like that. That's why I'm answering here a year after the last answer.
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- It's a complete failure, and not only because I personally don't like it, and this is not misinformation. It had a lot of problems from the start. Again, to have such a wide base and fame, and then leak everything... ehh... - So in your opinion it is logically completed and "took as much time as planned"? So in the last episode the story arc of one antagonist closes, after which the arc of another antagonist immediately opens, while hinting at some other hero who should be somewhere and everything leads to the fact that there should be a sequel, BUT then the show closes. And this is logical for you. Well, I wouldn't want you to become a screenwriter for a series/movie/cartoon someday. - The problem is not only in the toy market... It was a so-called "anomaly" only because the series broke stereotypes. Unfortunately, they are still strong, and from what you wrote, it is clear that you think it is impossible to create an interesting series for all ages at once. It is simply from this logic that attempts are born to cut all corners and make a cartoon "sterile" for children (the plots are simplified, only an externally beautiful wrapper is made without meaning), and then such a cartoon becomes uninteresting even to those same children. Again, reality shows otherwise and I hope that the "return to the roots" (a standard series with an unfinished and stupid plot only for children), which Hasbro did - is not for long and then they will return to making a really good cartoon, family, with a well-developed plot and so on. Well, yes, a sufficient number of cartoons are popular not only with children, I don't know, apparently my experience is different. Final Word: Bronies are forever. Our fandom will be reborn, it will be popular on the internet again. And we will create (either fans or Hasbro) a generation of ponies that will "blow up the internet"!
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Well, it seems like their shares have fallen in recent years, and so have their profits. But okay, I'm just not talking about finances, but about real success (or rather failure), which is really visible and tangible. It is logical that the 2021 film will increase attention to MLP, as well as sales of new toys. But it could not beat the records of the 2017 film (MLP in the cinema), and in general there are many sins. But if we look further, already at the 3D series, we will see only a decline. I agree that the conditions have changed a long time ago, since the Internet has developed a lot over this decade and it is unlikely that such a cartoon will be able to gain popularity on the Internet through the appearance of a thread on 4chan. But I think that development has happened in this direction, it has become easier to promote any product on the Internet, thanks to the same TikTok or Shorts (yes, you will remember about the toilets now..). And I hope that together with these conditions we can get a generation of ponies that will also take off, this will be great (but here it is also necessary for Hasbro to become interested in this and hire worthy scriptwriters). I mean that the new generation of ponies, namely the main part, which will "take off" may appear on the Internet and may be made by the fan Brony community. After all, the necessary conditions are now being formed for this in the sense that it has become easier to produce content. And yes, it is desirable that these were Hasbro
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I think it was a failure. And no, it doesn't "have flaws", it's just terrible in itself. From the main idea and plot to the graphics and animation of terrible quality. And this failure is even recorded in the financial reports, the profits there were clearly falling. So it's a clear failure. Well, you see, this news was more than half a year ago and during this time there were no announcements of a 3D series. There were no denials either. Reality shows that they cancelled the 3D series on G5, and this is a sure sign of the failure of the generation itself. I believe that nothing is predetermined in this world. Before G4, which gained worldwide fame, there was G3.5, which was very bad and closed very quickly. The Brony fandom can be revived and grow even stronger than it did in the early 2010s. I believe that the main thing is to hire a talented team of writers, sound engineers, artists. Try with ideas and scripts, then one of them will definitely "take off" and the series will conquer the Internet again, as it already did. And I see that our Brony fandom can show this, because there are many talented people in it. And this can happen with G6 and G7. And it can happen with a fan series. You just have to try. Besides, there are many fandoms that were in crisis for some time and fell, but then they rose again. I see no reason why this should not happen to us.
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It's been two years since this topic was created. The answer was given in the past tense, but these two years are enough to sum it up: MLP G5 failed to revive the brony fandom. The 5th generation attracted attention at the start of the project, but then it began to die and only harm the fandom itself, since it turned out terrible (both in the main idea and in the implementation) and literally trampled on the legacy of MLP FiM (G4). And the 3D series was generally cancelled. As a result, a complete failure. I hope that G6 or subsequent generations of MLP will be able to revive interest in the fandom and raise it to the level of the early 10s, or even higher. We only need people who will be interested in this (and there are a lot of them in the fandom) and an interesting idea for implementation. Well, or something will come not from Hasbro, but from small studios and groups of people who want to make a fan series based on MLP, after all, neural networks allow us to reduce the resources spent on producing cartoons.
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And where is this “well-written” Opaline? I just didn’t see this, I couldn’t even perceive her as a villain. What did she even manage to do during the entire arc? Just kidnap Spike at the end and that's it? Even Cozy Glow is written better in G4 Yes... I don’t even take into account its design - it’s quiet horror, some kind of foam pony-dragon. And also considering that the viewer expected that Spike would be able to tell everything in detail, but again nothing, he said nothing and doesn’t remember anything (for some reason, apparently the writers still haven’t been able to figure out how to ruin the world, built in G4). G5 is the worst
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Seems like Magic in Us spolied the MYM Chapter 6 ending
Kantet replied to WickedGames's topic in MLP Generation 5 (G5)
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As a villain - very bad. I can't even remember such poorly written villains in any work. It is impossible to perceive her as a villain, because for this she needs to do at least something, but she did nothing except sit in her castle and make a villainous laugh. But okay, this is G5, everything here is so bad
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He's not bad, he's terrible. Lessons that were taught better in G4. Besides, repeating the same thing is not very good; it is an indicator that the writers have no ideas. 3D characters? And what? Why did you decide that 3D is automatically better than 2D? The animation quality in G5 is terrible, the ponies look plastic (not to mention the dragons). The color palette is oversaturated, the colors are too acidic. What a rich world and lore? Very few locations are shown. What is the interest and “serious narrative” of MYM? I really don't understand. I felt like I had read an advertising brochure.
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The big problem with Gen 5 as a sequel to Gen 4
Kantet replied to MovieLord101's topic in MLP Generation 5 (G5)
1) No, nothing more was revealed in these episodes. No new information about what happened, well, except that “there is a country of alicorns” and “The Crystal Empire is sealed somewhere.” That's all. 2) Of course, they didn’t know about her, because this Opalin was invented in G5, and of course there are no explanations, and her arc was generally completed very stupidly, simply sealed in a tree. 3) No, she wouldn't be the best villain. This is the worst villain who can't do anything in his entire time in the series. I don't feel like she's a villain or the one who supposedly defeated Twilight. This is just nonsense. -
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