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Now, there has been desire for an MLP anime among the g4 fan base for a long time now. There has been an official MLP the Manga, and Equestria Girls has paved the way for anime magical girl sequences through their many movies. I think that the biggest play that Hasbro could make at this point, is allowing the G1 Takara ponies to make a comeback and giving them their own anime through a fresh and fancy reboot. Now, I get it- the Takara ponies are a branch of MLP that is pretty obscure outside of the g1 collector's fan base, and only limited to Japan, but with with the MLP franchise approaching 50 years of pastel ponies, I think this branch could be given a second chance. In my opinion, Hasbro could take a leap of faith and really go all in on reinventing the Takara line for an anime- especially since it was a Japanese exclusive toyline, and Japan pretty much pushed anime to the world, and it is no longer something to be made fun of and ridiculed, as it used to be. I would love to see possibly even a brand new character being introduced, as well as fleshing out the very scarce Takara pony lore through an anime. Filly Frills (or just "Frilly") could be the new character- perhaps a protege of Milky and Pinky, the g1 Takaras, who, like g4 Rarity, could be all about fashion and style, or just have interesting magical girl transformation sequences that showcase different outfits, like that of Cardcaptor Sakura.

I've been wondering, due to having far too much imagination and an idle mind. This thought came to me after realizing yet again that the Pokemon Franchise is one that is approaching its 10th generation of mainline series games, after the franchise has been around for 28 years, and has become THE biggest grossing franchise on the planet. Meanwhile, the My Little Pony brand and franchise is going on 44 years old in 2025 and is heading toward its 6th generation. I can't see the pony brand going anywhere anytime soon, but some part of me does wonder- what if MLP took Pokemon's place as the highest grossing franchise? How different would the brand and fandoms surrounding each generation be? Would there even be any differences?

So I'm really curious about this. Many in this g4 fandom have concluded that the Mane 5- Rarity, Pinkie Pie, Apple Jack, Fluttershy, and Rainbow Dash (maybe even Twiight) are no longer around- I mean, old age or whatever. They were significantly aged up in to mid-life stage, it seemed like, during the final episode. But it again theorized that Twilight- being an Alicorn- is probably still around. G5's series pretty much confirms that only Spike is the only one still remaining, because dragons are far longer lived than ponies are (and the IDW comics confirms this fact) ....However, after watching the g5 special "Bridlewoodstock", and seeing three of the original g1 ponies- Snuzzle, Minty, and Blue Belle showing up and looking just as young and retrofied as in the 80's, I have to wonder if these g1 ponies are still around in the g5 timeline, then wouldn't the g4 ponies? What do you guys think of this? Did Twilight and friends get put/ trapped in an alternate dimension? Limbo? Are they really 6 feet under? Or are the g1 ponies in g5 re-animated through some mysterious, magical means?

Probably not. But then again, I just watch pony wherever I can get it- but definitely not on streaming services. Who has money for that?

I agree. Gen 2 needs to be more represented by Hasbro. It never gets touched on or given any sort of reference, ever.

this is a very commom misconception in the g4 fandom that Celestia turned Twiilight into an alicorn, The this about this is many do not bother to look at the details before they make the assumption. If you go back and look at MMC, you can clearly see that the magic that leaves Twilight is purple and comes out of her chest- were her heart would be. She turns herself into an alicorn. Celestia's horn never once glows to turn Twilight in to an alicorn herself. Yes, Celestia herself was grooming Twilight for the role of becoming a Princess, and her successor, but she never turned her into an alicorn.

So while I was rewatching the g4 MLP episode ‘Shadow Play”, I remembered that Starswirl very plainly went into detail about the origins of the Tree of Harmony. Shortly before sacrificing themselves to bind himself and the other Pillars to Limbo, He says: “But we shall leave behind a seed, in hopes that one day, it will grow into a force to stand against the darkness for all time.” This seed was actually a jewel that was infused with the Pillars’ of Equestria’s elements- Strength, Bravery, Healing, Hope, Beauty, and Sorcery. The seed later grew into the Tree of Harmony and spread its roots out to other lands, as revealed in season 10 of the comic arc, to manifest the Trees of Love, History, Family, Purpose, and Patriotism. Question is- where did the Pillars- or Starswirl- get this “seed”? Neither the comics, books, or series reveals this information, and after so long, I doubt that any new lore on the origin of the Tree will be dropped now that we’re well into g5. But I do have an idea of where this seed originated from….. I believe that the seed that grew into the Tree of Harmony could’ve come into possession by someone in Starswirl’s group (likely Mage Meadowbrook) from the g1 Takara ponies. And let me explain why I believe that could be….First off- the seed is a gemstone. While there is no shortage of gems in Equestria, I am led to believe that the seed did in fact come from the Takara ponies, because 1: the name “Takara” in Japanese means “treasure; jewel, precious thing”. The elements of Harmony that came from the Tree later on are indeed very valuable and took the form of gemstones. 2: Starswirl and friends planted the seed in hopes that it would grow to defend against the darkness for all time, during a time when they needed to sacrifice themselves to keep a villain at bay. Meanwhile, there is heavy emphasis on the Lily of the Valley flower in what we see of the Takara pony imagery, in what little “canon” they have been given through their box art and blurbs. In the flower language, a Lily of the Valley means “a return to happiness” and also “unity”; “peace”. Seems perfect symbolism right around a time when it is needed most for figures who will no longer be around due to putting their lives on the line as guardians, but who need to leave a tool for future generations to combat the darkness of villains who crop up after them, I’d say. But what do you guys think?

I beg your finest pardon, but Celestia never did turn Twilight into an alicorn. This is an understandably, yer very common misconception.

There are many people within the g4/g5 MLP community that seem to take most official media outside of the animated series as “B Canon” so long as it doesn’t contradict the series itself. But there is much untapped and unexplored potential for lore and long lost answers to questions others may have been asking for many years within these outside sources. That being said, I feel like it’s due time that an elephant in the room needs to be addressed. Addressing the topic of “what happened to the other Alicorns?” This has been a question that has been on the minds of many since the release of the official “The Journal of the Two Sisters” book. It details the lives of the young sisters Celestia and Luna and specifically mentions that they were raised by “the Alicorns”, meaning that there were others of their kind- presumably many of them, in the days before the nation of Equestria’s founding. This is the only time that “The Alicorns” are ever mentioned in any piece of g4 media. Except when “The Art of Equestria” art book for the MLP movie came out. There had been a scrapped idea of a pony named Cosmos being the younger, long lost brother of Celestia and Luna. He was intended to be a rough and wild pony adventurer that had a broken horn and wore a very strange looking and intimidating armor suit, but his character ultimately became Tempest Shadow, who had her role secured in the movie. Then when g5 came around, with the introduction of the villain Opaline, we seemed to get further confirmation of “The Alicorns” (although it seemed rather vague, with her wording of her backstory) Her dialogue basically says “When I was growing up in Skyros, THEY (Celestia/ Luna) were the golden ponies, the favorites. Everypony loved them! But I saw right through their act! They thought they were so great because they had the whole “sun and moon” thing going. Please! I had something much better. I was an alicorn of fire, of power, of strength!” At the end of her speech, Opaline then goes on to say: “I will live up to my elemental duty!” Now, while this brief bit of dialogue doesn’t mention other alicorns directly, I can only assume that when Opaline makes mention to not only Skyros- which can possibly predate the land of Canterlot where the Alicorns resided in the Journal of the Two sisters, but also alluding to herself being an “alicorn of fire”, it kinda makes me wonder of there were other elemental alicorns that had duties to fulfill, as Opaline seemed to have- only to be usurped by Celestia and Luna who were meant to govern the sun and moon. I simply cannot see Opaline talking about how, at the time, Celestia and Luna would be the favorites of any other pony species other than “The Alicorns” at the time of their childhood. So then begs the question again- “what happened to “The Alicorns”? Here is where the g4 comics might come into play, and my take on the matter. (Take it for what its worth) If we were to keep the idea of Cosmos being Celestia and Luna’s younger brother- although being left out of the movie, but existing in another B form canon media, while also looking at IDW comic issues #75-78, which feature a villain named Cosmos, that even Discord himself was afraid of, I think that it could unravel the mystery of what happened to the other alicorns. One thing I notice about the villain Cosmos is that she does not simply perform fun and amusing acts of chaos out of the hopes to connect with somepony and find a friend, as Discord did. She took things way too far, and enjoyed hurting others and having her chaotic powers destroy the fabric of existing realities. And, according to Discord, it took the combined powers of the “most magical beings” to lock Cosmos away in the 6 stars- into what then became known as the Andalusian constellation. Discord’s dialogue seems to imply that at this time when villain Cosmos was wreaking havoc on Equestria, during Discord’s first reign, the Alicorns, and Celestia and Luna’s younger brother, Cosmos were already absent from the scene- otherwise, I would assume that they would’ve been the ones to properly deal with the villain Cosmos, rather than Queen Novo, Celestia, Luna, Discord, King Aspen, and King Meowmeow. My thought is that at some point before villain Cosmos came to devastated Equestria, she would've had a confrontation with the alicorn Cosmos. The Alicorns would’ve moved from Skyros to Canterlot, at some point. (Maybe Skyros was destroyed? Who knows?) Cosmos, being the younger brother of Celly and Luna could’ve had a major impact on his mentality- having his older sisters potential to strive to live up to. Especially when Starswirl came to collect them from Canterlot to truly unite the Pegasi, Earth, and Unicorn tribes in the newly established land of Equestria. It could be that Cosmos stayed behind with the other alicorns- or simply ventured out on his own to try and do his own part to bring harmony to the world- perhaps until the villain Cosmos came and destroyed the Alicorns and their land, out of fear for their power of unity, if ever they decided to try and stop her, as she later was, by others. Unbeknownst to her, both Cosmos, and Opaline could;ve been outside the city and on their own, hence why they would’ve survived to present day. I would like to think that at some point, Cosmos would’ve come up against the villain Cosmos, which would’ve resulted in his broken horn- and while he barely got away at the time, he would’ve then created an armor that would succeed in deflecting her magic. And he simply strives to either return to his home after finding a way to defeat her- unknowing that she had already been sealed in the stars, or now is attempting to bring the other alicorns back, after learning of all villain Cosmos had done. Super headcanon-y, but again, there is much potential in “B canon” for explanation of what could;ve happened to the other alicorns. What do you guys think?

For a long time now, I have pondered if there was more to g4’s Fluttershy than meets the eye. This little pony holds so much intrigue and potential that I think was just never really touched upon. For instance, I like to think that she was the daughter of g1's Queen Rosedust- which would explain their similar appearance. I know Fluttershy was based off of Posey, but let’s just entertain the idea for a moment, shall we? Like the g1 Flutterponies, Fluttershy herself is shy and reclusive at the beginning. Her name also could be a reference to this. If Fluttershy was in fact the daughter of Queen Rosedust, then this would obviously make her a Princess. (And isn’t Fluttershy a lot like a Disney Princess already? Looking at you, Snow White!) Now, I’d imagine that Rosedust would see that her daughter was born a Pegasus- but also having a mixture of Flutterpony genes as well- would reluctantly have given her up to a foster family- ideally in Cloudsdale. The Shy Family. Like the Flutterponies she could’ve had mixed genetic with, Fluttershy is not the strongest flier, but can somehow bend the most destructive enemies to her will and lessen their threat- as the Flutterponies promptly dispatched the Smooze as it destroyed all of the valley, so Fluttershy also put the lord of Chaos, Discord, in his rightful place. What do you guys think about Fluttershy being a Flutterpony hybrid?

Now, before I get people saying “But Luna and Celestia are the two original alicorns in the animated series!” or “But Luna and Celestia’s toys showed up first in the toyline release!” Let me just say- I KNOW. But hear me out, I think that as far as lore goes, there is a significant chunk of of missing when it comes to the Alicorn race, whether in cartoon, comic, or storybook canon. And yes, Generation 5 dipped into providing more lore through Opaline’s backstory but there is still much we don't really know about the Alicorns- specifically, the two g4 toyline exclusive Princesses- Gold Lily and Sterling. But here’s why I think that these two could actually predate both Celestia and Luna (and Opaline, even). But let’s take a look at Celestia and Luna for a second, Do you notice anything about them? Why is it that Celestia’s crown and breastplate are gold, while Luna’s are both black? Naturally, the colors fit with their color scheme, and gold for Celestia is typically one that is worn by royals….but how do you explain Luna’s black crown and breastplate? Why not silver to stand out better against her already dark color scheme? Have you ever wondered? Well, what if I were to tell you that she’s already wearing silver on her? I highly think that both Celestia and Luna’s crowns and breastplates are them paying tribute to the original ancestors- Princess Gold Lily and Princess Sterling. Ok, so the Gold on Celestia is obviously homage to Gold Lily, but what about Luna? That’s not silver- it’s black!!! Or is it? What if Luna’s attire was simply tarnished silver (which can produce a yellow, brown, BLACK, or grey coating)? I find it even more interesting upon doing a bit of digging, that Gold and Silver ( Sterling) are considered to be “noble” metals….interestingly, along with Platinum (Princess Platinum. (though not an Alicorn, she is Unicorn royalty, with her father being King Bullion (and his name itself being a reference to Gold and Silver in bulk before coining)) Additionally, etymology of Sterling itself a derivation from a late Old English steorling (with, or like, a 'little star'), as some early Norman pennies were imprinted with a small star. This, once again seems as though Sterling predates Luna, the guardian of the night, and mover of the moon and stars. Gold Lily’s color is, well, gold. Yellow, actually- and yellow Lilly’s can symbolize joy, gratitude, and FRIENDSHIP. Lilly’s in general symbolize love, purity, rebirth, and fertility. This flower ties itself to the Greek Goddess, Hera. The Alicorn homeland is Skyros (possibly their original home before they all- or some of them moved from there and founded Canterlot in pre-Equestria times). Notably, this location is inspired by the actual island of Skyros in Greece, which also has its own breed of “Skyrian ponies”. So are Gold Lily and Sterling the original alicorns before Celestia and Luna stepped onto the scene? You be the judge…..