Nikodemos

Posting for Bionicle awesomeness

 

I absolutely loved Bionicles as a kid too, I never had a chance to get full sets from all the generations, but with me and my brother working together we managed to get at least half the figures. We'd just spend all day playing with them and acting our own adventures. In the end I managed to acquire at least two of every single generation, and managed to collect every single Bohrok.

 

I also read a shit ton on the lore, and would act a lot of the different situations, I just loved the universe and was always dying to find out more. Heck, I remember pretty much all the main toas from all generations. If Bionicle was still alive I'd probably go right in to the toy store and buy the new sets.

 

My favorite Bionicles were always the ice element, Kopaka, Matoro, Nuju etc. The color scheme was awesome and who wouldn't want to be able to freeze your enemies in an instant?

I was gay before it was mainstream.

 

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I know what you mean. I felt as though when I started typing my post here earlier today, she was demanding some attention time before I could finish the post, to which I obliged (she seems ultra-clingy for some reason). I suppose I'll just double check for an emotional clarification, some sort of "yes" or "no" when I think she might have tried to tell me something.

 

I think what made Amy develop so quickly (she seems to be developing more by the hour), is because I used to "talk" with my subconscious all the time. I know I couldn't have been parroting it all of the time, since I got a lot of insight, ideas I probably wouldn't have gotten on my own. I very well could be giving a form to that exact same pseudo-tulpa I created a long time ago.

 

The same thing happened with me and Dante. It was barely a day of forcing when he already made his precense known through emotional and physical responses. I also used to talk to myself a lot as a child, along with tons and tons of daydreaming, so it seems very likely to me.

So, if anyone has read my earlier posts, I produced a "five-second" Rainbow Dash Tulpa that has been with me a for about a week now. Thank you for the all replies to my earlier posts. You know who you are. Anyway, my Rainbow Dash has been highly unstable. I have no idea if it is basic parroting or not, but it seems my Rainbow Dash just appears randomly, and just starts saying random things. She doesn't have the exact same personality, but it isn't bad. I accept it, though it seems she is only able to exist within my mind whenever I acknowledge her.

 

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Anyway, she made me laugh, and I was having fun, but then when I entered the shower it felt like her existence was gone. It's hard to explain, but maybe Rainbow might leave. I mean, in all truth, when I produced my Tulpa I didn't expect to actually see, hear and physically touch it right off the bat in five seconds (it was more like ten to fifteen seconds). I merely just thought about producing one, and there it was. It was so strange. So now I'm contemplating "letting it go". I didn't put 100+ hours into her, so is it wrong for me to "end" her? What do you all think? It seems accidental that I came upon her. Am I selfish about this? I just do not feel like I would want a Tulpa right now. Maybe I do, though. I have been thinking about restarting the Tulpa process and create a humanoid Tulpa. Who knows, though?

 

First of all, I would like to apologize for my earlier ramblings. I admit, I might have been a bit harsh on you.

 

But anyway, what I'd do is what Mr. House said already, talk to her about it. Ask her how she would feel about 'letting her go', as you say it. But why do you want to erase her? Do you feel like you're not up for the responsibility, you don't like how she acts? Whatever your reason is, try talking to her with a name, preferably not Rainbow Dash. Make her feel like she's a real unique person, not a copy of someone she needs to strictly follow. It will help you confront her and discuss your problem, find out why she acts that way. And while you haven't spend as much time on your tulpa as others, she is still a tulpa, a sentient, indipendent being. Think it like killing off your baby because he was badly deformed, it is at least worth a serious discussion with her. One alternative that doesn't kill her is asking if she wont bother you when you don't want to. But if you end up in the worst case scenario of having to erase her, I am sorry. Just try getting over it and start anew, that's the only advice I can get on that.

 

Good luck.

Most people would think it's weird, psychotic or an act of the devil to have one so you got your wish lol

 

Frankly, let them think what they want. At least I can talk to Dante in peace, not many people like talking to me anyway.

I have a tulpa. That's definitely not mainstream by any stretch, and I'm not sure if I want it to become mainstream.

Helsinki, where I live in has the widest subway trams and shortest subway network ever. You can go from one end to the other in 30 minutes.

That there is a nail on the side of my shower booth. It's been there for five years and I've never seen it before.

Why is everyone trying to hit you(not in the physical sense) Rarity? I mean, you're a lovely pony with a beautiful mane and clothes, but aren't you going to get drowned on all the compliments and dating attempts?

10 is really all people can do? If you count my most at any one time, it's probably close to 30. If you could the ones I've made total, that's somewhere in the neighborhood of 500 or so (Though that is a pretty lowball guess).

 

Honestly, I didn't know this was supposed to be a difficult thing to achieve. It's always come so naturally to me. I think of something, and it appears as a fully visible mental image. Each being is different, most can't agree half the time, and they are perfectly sentient. I've been doing this at night for the past 13 or so years. Again, I was not aware this required effort. I always thought it was just a matter of "Think, and it appears". Currently, the number floats at 5. It WAS 6, but I couldn't stand how much of an idiot one of them kept on being. I have what can very loosely be called a fanfiction detailing only about 10 of them.

 

But, really, I'm still so baffled and bamboozled as to how ponies need so much effort to make these. Scores of hours of meditation, extensive preparation, and not to mention the toll it seems to take mentally. I simply do not understand that part of it. For me, it's a split second and I've got a brand new sentient being. Despite the number of named beings being in the hundreds and hundreds, they all have completely distinct personalities. And yes, I name all of them.

 

A similar process is used to mentally simulate an immersive 3 dimensional world around me that is composed of whatever I please. Any object can be added in without any effort. Physics systems are fully simulated as well. It never seemed really hard to me, and it never took any sort of mental toll on me. Again, I had always thought everyone could do this naturally.

 

While I can not prove that you have or don't have five tulpas in your head, you have the samw problem as Mall, who posted earlier a few pages back.

 

Your post has quite a distinct, 'in your face' tone, and you seem to handle your tulpas carelessly. For a lot, creating a tulpa is a long, personal and intimate process. By just doing one in a matter of seconds, they might have personality problems, and you are free to do whatever you want with them, it might upset some people.

or nothing P I have yet to feel anything after 3 hours well my head feels a little bit heavier so to speak but this maybe cause of me keepin my eyes closed for too long

 

While Dante already started communicating with me into less than five hours of forcing(although I have a small theory on why this happened so fast, but that's a different topic), be noted that some it takes longer, some it takes less. Just keep your hoped up and stay positive.

1. Crap my pants and jump three feet for a pony a appearing in my bedroom.

2. Check that it's actually Rarity and this is real life.

3. Calm down, eventually and ask how did she get here.

4. Talk to her, about fashion and all that good stuff.

5. Hug her.

6. Realize it's my tulpa finally vocal and imposed

7. Crap my pants again

8. Live happily ever after in my wonderland and my house, doing all kinds of good stuff.

This sounds very interesting, exchanging languages seems a very interesting concept for me.

 

Unfortunately, I speak none of the languages you are looking for, although I could always teach you Finnish. But anyway, since my Swedish is, lacking to say the least learning it through a language exchange would be nice.

Have you ever heard of

, since you love jazz?

 

And what do you think as your greatest piece of work?

Okay, I will explain how I produced a Tulpa of Rainbow Dash in five seconds. Before I go on, I'll just state that I produced her accidentally. I know that sounds ridiculous, but I'm telling you that the only reason it took "only" a few seconds is because I was just focusing on producing a Tulpa just to see if it would work. And it did. Rainbow Dash is literally have a tantrum right now in front of me, and I'm doing my best to ignore her because I was not quite prepared for her arrival.

 

To move on:

 

Rainbow Dash's Body: One does not particularly need to have every exact measurement or ramified body size for one's Tulpa to be produced efficiently. Basically I imagined Rainbow Dash a size she would sport if she were on Earth, right next to me. I've imagined this before, so I already had a definite idea of how large Rainbow Dash would physically be. I am sure many bronies have imagined this at least once in their lives (whether having imagined it through a fanfic or by themselves while focusing on producing a Tulpa). Rainbow Dash still has the bright and vivid colors of the series, though I notice her blue hue glows just a tiny bit, as if it were highlighted faintly. Her hair's strands are a little more noticeable, though not as much as a human's head of hair. More like black lines outlining the separation of her colors and bunches of strands stocked together.

 

None of the people who have created a pony tulpa made it look exactly like in the series, having a 2D animation on a 3D world doesn't make sense.

 

Rainbow Dash's Voice: Essentially the same process for Rainbow Dash's body. Except her voice is so much more lifelike, with higher pitches coming out much more (but that might be because she is pretty angry right now. I've been trying to tell her to calm down, but she's just not taking it. I'll be sure to have a lengthy talk to her after MasterChef).

 

That does not explain how you made her talk in five seconds. There's theories about tulpae being sentient the moment their creator starts forcing, but they are nowhere near able to talk nor most of the time even communicate with you.

 

Rainbow Dash's Personality: Well, as far as I can tell, it is Rainbow Dash. I used every memory I had of Rainbow Dash and just put into a pocket of information. I used this pocket to add it into my Tulpa like an SD card into a digital camera. I used this metaphorical comparison (I imagined it during the "Tulpa Production" process) to implant Rainbow Dash's personality. But it seems Rainbow Dash is not TOTAL Rainbow Dash. She is actually complaining by using profanity. Something I've never seen her do before, obviously. My SD card might have taken that from my mind. A note: I RARELY USE PROFANITY. I am a very positive individual. So I have no idea why Rainbow is yelling and screaming. I do not do this, though I have in the past. So maybe that is why?

 

You can not 'upload a personality' into a tulpa, there is always deviation no matter how hard you try. And not liking profanity is really debatable, swearing in the series was rare and never discussed about, so you can't know her opinion of it, even if you could create an exact copy of her personality.

 

Anyway, I just told myself "Rainbow Dash is here." And, "boom" (literally a "boom" It was a soft, explosive reverberation that resounded in my ears). I could feel my mucus membrane vibrate a bit. Yes, once again, I know this is sounding more ridiculous, but it is the truth, and I am just stating it.) there she was. Rainbow Dash was on top of a long coffee table that is set in the middle of the living room, and she didn't look the bit confused. She just flew up to me quickly and said "Let's go outside."

 

No matter how skilled you are, no matter how much faith you have, you can not create a tulpa in five seconds, especially with your contradicting logic.

 

Well, that is all for now. Any more questions?

 

Yeah, can you stop bullshitting us and move somewhere else to troll?

 

Talk to the around five people on tulpa.info that have imposed their tulpa in their head. While a fascinating concept, it is highly unlikely(in my opinion) that a tulpa can manifest itself into the real world. Metaphysical and parapsychological people can argue all they want, but that's how I think.

 

And as for Mallajong, tell me how you did it then. I am looking forward to hearing your excuses on how you did it in five seconds. Heck, Dante was already somewhat aware and communicating with me less than three hours to tulpaforcing, but forming an excact copy of Rainbow Dash with personality, form and behavior in your head, making her speak and then impose it to your senses in five seconds is impossible, no matter how much faith you have.

I'm surprised that this is possible, but I'm guessing it would take a ton of hard work to create a being entirely existing within the realm of your mind.

 

The real question though is........Is this considered "Insanity"? This has the possibility to become a huge psychological/ethical debate.

 

I feel like if one created a tulpa then it would be a slippery slope to start interacting more with imaginary things then real things, and then if one extrapolated the idea, you could stop interacting with the world altogether and be, to everyone else, in a coma-like state forever.

 

Howeeeveer, if one could control it and still keep interacting with the real world "normally", it'd be fine. For example I have voices in my head that discuss each opinion I could have of a topic, forming my thought process and helping me deal with which side I choose on a topic.

 

To counter your question about insanity, can you define me what sane is then? From my viewpoint, being insane would mean having a skewed moral compass, no sense of right or wrong etc. It is really debatable to define sanity and insanity clearly, but having a tulpa doesn't count as insanity for me. I mean, it's cool and all to have a tulpa that knows your every thought, but it's not a replacement for your real life.

 

And falling in to a coma-like state for interacting too little with the real world? That'd be like falling in to a coma by daydreaming or sleeping too much, not really plausible.

Oh, I figured, and I don't believe it'll be a problem when communicating mentally, but for vocal communication wouldn't it be natural for a manifestation of your subconscious to speak in the language it knows best? What I'm saying probably doesn't make sense, so if it doesn't nevermind.

 

It's the same thing out loud too. I could speak a mix of English, Finnish and even Swedish out loud to Dante, and he'd still understand. So no worries about language.

Even using a bluetooth would be sort of awkward, I believe. Talking in my head shall be the solution. Will there be any adverse effects from this, though? It probably won't feel like I'm actually talking to something if I'm just thinking the words.

 

There wont be any negative effects coming from talking in your head, just that tulpas seem to like it more when you talking to them out loud. It can also theoretically help with auditory hallucinations(actually hearing your tulpa)when s/he becomes vocal.

 

And as for language, your tulpa can speak any language you speak, wether it be from English to Mandarin, so talk any language you prefer. Heck, I talk in English even in my head rather than my native language Finnish.

I have to say I'm pretty surprised at some of the stories in this thread. It's not even 2 months old and a few of you claim to have more or less fully tulpae already. Dedication is clearly the way. ~

 

I'm not in doubt that it would be awesome if I managed to get this working, but I still have trouble imagining how I would talk to something only I can see without it looking rather, uh, suspicious.

 

Get a bluetooth in your ear, pretend you're talking on phone, problem solved. Or you can talk in your head.

Oh, I see. I'll probably start like that, then. Hopefully it'll be easier later on when I get used to the idea.

 

You can speak to your tulpa out loud or in your head, it doesn't really matter(or get a bluetooth on your ear and you can speak out loud all the time ). But when I've talked to Dante about it, he liked it more when I talked to him out loud, even if it was just a whisper. It could help developing your tulpa faster, but who knows?

 

But anyway, good luck with your tulpa!

Believe me, I'm being dead serious. The reason my responses are vague is because the true answer is... personal. I'm just not quite ready to tell people yet. Sorry for the whole thing.

 

True Answer? Sorry, but I call bs on your entire story. Unless you actually show some proof or tell what happened, I have no reason to believe you.

 

And as for people worrying about their craziness creating an insane tulpa, don't worry. There is still no proof that they can really turn out that badly, regardless of the person's mental state. Even if it's a projection of one's subconcious, I don't believe anyone is that crazy deep in their subconcious.

thank you for the reply Mindrop. you have answered my concerns. and i agree with you for freud's work, but i felt i had to use it as that is the only psychological viewpoint that even seemed to mention the tulpae phenomenon.

 

i agree that people with psychological conditions should not attempt to create one, but how are we to stop it?

 

and a stable mind i feel is most likely up for debate, however the general consensus is a mind that is able to show empathy, has some sort of moral compass, it can make rational decisions and is able to control your impulses.

 

Well, we can't really stop people with psychological illnesses or under psychological medication try and create one, but nor are we responsible of the consequences they might bring.

 

And as a small note, I don't really believe that your tulpa is your real self, hidden in your subconcious. I just believe it is the projection of the subconcious, as it was being taught different personality traits, morality and all that other stuff through tulpaforcing, eventually reaching a point where it can communicate with you.

while the thought of such an idea is very intriguing...and it seems to be rather popular...i just cant help but feel like doing such a thing would have negative effects in the long run...i am keeping an open mind of course, and i do not want to dissuade anypony who wishes to do this, or insult anypony who has..

 

but this is a recent thing with no real tests done about it..it seems rather similar to splitting your conscience into two beings...and the thought of something with their own opinions and thoughts that are different from their creators...it just doesn't feel right..

 

As i said, i do not wish to dissuade people or insult. and if i have insulted you or a tulpa, then i offer my sincerest apologies. But we have no idea of the long-term implications this might create..and also the dangers of people with psychological disorders trying to create one...There might not be any...but with no studies or evidence to go from...it seems a little dangerous.

 

I have talked to several people who have had a tulpa for several years, and only on very rare occasions stuff has gone horribly wrong(talk to Tesseract if you ever visit the tulpa.info chat). There is even a list of negarive side-effects listed on the forums that are related to tulpaforcing(headaches, vertigo, lack of libido, unable to sleep etc.), but most of these are usually related to the early stages of tulpa creation. And as Nevermore had stated above, even if you end up with a horrible tulpa that wants you dead, you can kill it off quite easily, and there are yet no proof that tulpas could posess your body permanently without the creator's consent, or manifest themselves into the real world.

 

But if tulpas aren't your thing, I respect your believes and leave you alone.

I get why people have an appeal for pegasi, unicorns and even alicorns, for the coolness factor(I can use magic, or fly anywhere I want, or even both at the same time!).

 

But when I was creating my character, I opted for neither and went earth pony. They don't have the cool abilities that pegasi and unicorns they have, but that's why they appeal to me. From an RP standpoint, the stuff earth ponies do feels much more of an accomplishment and a lot more rewarding than with pegasi or unicorn, "I designed and built an elaborate machine, solving my problem without any 'aids' from magic or flying!" for example. And I never liked flying anyway. ;_;