AppleJackle

Actually, I did make an error in my spelling, but it's not what you pointed out. I'm not trying to sign a treaty with anypony. You honestly think I don't know what a treaty is? 'Treatise' is what I was going for. Obviously I am not some 'enraged brony hater'... Would I be here, and a cupcake, if I was? "Nobody will listen to you" Thank you for your closed mind. I cannot believe that I am the only one here to think this.

What on earth are you talking about? Did you even read what I said? I think it's pretty obvious I'm not lowering the standard of trying to be a kind person to those who are mean. This is the point This is why I created this thread, the attitude I am referring to. No, one should not 'tolerate' an enemy. An enemy by definition is one who would do you harm. One does not passively take harm, that is my point. This is actually exactly what I'm getting at. Let's get rid of this 'Love and tolerate' stuff, as it's utter nonsense. That isn't to say that those are what I'm looking for. Obviously it's not 'Love, unless you cross us', something more like 'Love, unless you harm us'.

I completely agree with this, and it's very much the point I am trying to make. Constantly, incessantly, on any pony-related thing around, I see this catchphrase of 'Love and Tolerate' which has nothing to do with reality whatsoever. Just 100 years ago, a man who adored the thought of pastel-colored ponies WOULD have had to fight tooth and nail for his right to be different. In some parts of the world this is still the case. My point is that bigotry is not solved by love and tolerance, and seeing this slogan pasted everywhere makes me feel revulsion. We aren't so far away from days of hatred and violence that we should be proclaiming a pacifistic slogan. I guess I can't think of anything quite as catchy and simple, but I feel that it is insufficient and degrading to shout "Love and tolerate" at the top of our lungs.

It is a treatsie to get people to stop saying something that I view as empty and foolish. I am not forcing my opinion on anyone, simply putting it out there, in the hopes that some will see my point. I am certainly glad that we all share a love of colorful horses, it truly is a wonderful thing. I honestly have no idea what you are trying to say.

I suppose I thought of this thread because of the post by well-respected member, Red- here: http://mlpforums.com/topic/41734-treatment-of-haters-the-elimination-of-love-and-tolerate/ Also, 'L&T' is everywhere- from threads here, to comments on fan websites, to comics, to Youtube comments. So I think it is kind of known as the catchphrase or motto :/ I am a very large fan of your suggestion though ^^"

My point is that it seems like a terrible saying to use- I see it in nearly every thread and it makes me very irate. It sounds naive and childish- naturally causing the assumption of pacifism. This is why I wish for it to go away, or to be modified to something that is not so obviously flawed.

This has nothing to do with what I am talking about. Of course, judging others for superficial reasons is ridiculous, and ignoring haters and bullies is the best way to get rid of them. I was never questioning this. Also, I believe that there is no such thing as an 'unwinnable argument'. There is either objective truth to a situation, or such a thing as 'truth' does not exist. 'Breaking the law' is not necessarily harming anyone- as laws do not always reflect morality.

So. As we are all aware, ‘Love and Tolerate’ seems to have become the catchphrase of the brony community. I think this needs to change, for it is a poor ethic to espouse, or at least an incomplete one. First of all, we ought to think about what kind of society in the real world would form from those who are only capable of ‘love and toleration’. They would be peaceful, sure, but also weak and insignificant on a grander scale. What does someone who is only capable of L&T do when there is a sword at their throat, demanding their goods or labor? So it seems to me that, alone, L&T is inane, foolish, empty. It calls for us to sheath our weapons when coerced, to resist oppression not at all. It is the ethic of a slave, and I shall not embrace it. When Discord was unleashing chaos over all of Equestria, did the ponies that we all share a joy in simply love and tolerate him? NO THEY DID NOT. They fought with all of their will, struggled in self-defense to protect those that they care for, so that they could survive another day. When the Buffalo and Appleoosans had a conflict, did either side simply love and tolerate? No. They both fought. When peoples were being massacred in Darfur, did L&T do anything to protect them? NO. So I say to those who wish to claim L&T as the brony ethic: stand aside or take another look! Even our fair ponies do not believe in such things. Why should we? I ask that we find a new motto to live by- one that includes sensible self-defense within it. Else we are fools, clowns, jokers, and nothing else.

Was it just me, or was Applebloom's voice messed up? I always thought that her accent was adorable, yet this episode I was extremely irate everytime she opened her muzzle. Perhaps I'm crazy, but it sounded different.

I feel that this quote is appropriate for this thread, and this fandom: ""The next real literary “rebels” in this country might well emerge as some weird bunch of anti-rebels, born oglers who dare somehow to back away from ironic watching, who have the childish gall actually to endorse and instantiate single-entendre principles. Who treat of plain old untrendy human troubles and emotions in U.S. life with reverence and conviction. Who eschew self-consciousness and hip fatigue. These anti-rebels would be outdated, of course, before they even started. Dead on the page. Too sincere. Clearly repressed. Backward, quaint, naive, anachronistic. Maybe that’ll be the point. Maybe that’s why they’ll be the next real rebels. Real rebels, as far as I can see, risk disapproval. The old postmodern insurgents risked the gasp and squeal: shock, disgust, outrage, censorship, accusations of socialism, anarchism, nihilism. Today’s risks are different. The new rebels might be artists willing to risk the yawn, the rolled eyes, the cool smile, the nudged ribs, the parody of gifted ironists, the “Oh how banal.” To risk accusations of sentimentality, melodrama. Of overcredulity. Of softness. Of willingness to be suckered by a world of lurkers and starers who fear gaze and ridicule above imprisonment without law. Who knows?”"

Shit, the person who got me to start writing ponyfics was female, and a clopper. Proven wrong, I win

Applebloom: Something apple related Scootaloo: No idea, so arrow or something. Sweetie Belle: Well, this is entirely relevent.

Oh no! Which episode did she watch? And what about the daddmanbro? He needs to see one! I voted for Flim Flam's cidermafa