Pony Consciousness is Compassionate Consciousness

[Night Sky 855]

Pony Consciousness is Compassionate Consciousness. Because the Ponies are not estranged from Nature the way we are, they have over the Eons developed a potent magic that allows them to interface with their biosphere in much more subtle, and powerful ways than we can.

The Alicorn Princesses are one of very most potent manifestations of this relationship. They appear according to laws and timing that we wouldn't understand. There's an element of Will and Choice to it, but I suspect Instinct plays an important role as well.

So, Alicorn Princesses can regulate the temperature of the Sun, or keep the Moon properly calibrated. And that keeps the tolerances tighter on how nuts ponies can get. Here on the human Earth, we've had some problems with that.

But the Alicorn Princesses of Equestria can also divert asteroids and comets to prevent catastrophic, world ending impacts. Those really are very rare though. More often, they just keep the weather patterns predictable, within reason, to see to it that crops don't fail or that animal populations don't decline. The biodiversity is maintained, though not in a greedy way.

So, the ponies are very close to nature and they can work with it more effectively and proactively than we can. But they have humility and thus a sense of belonging and surrender that we lack. They are not magical overlords who dominate their environment. Rather, the ponies really are in Harmony with their surroundings, and I suspect that, even though the Elements of Harmony represent the aspects of Friendship, that they are somehow based upon the foundation of this wonderous and gentle relationship the ponies have to their world.

This, all of this has deeply informed pony culture, norms, customs and rituals. Of course, the ponies are still in the material creation. Life is not perfect in Equestria. I feel that they too are an intermediate category world. But that is a wide section of bandwidth and they are still quite comfortably ahead of us. Thus, if we can cultivate Pony Consciousness in ourselves, both our culture and our environment will benefit and heal massively from their most excellent example.

Edited May 28 by Night Sky

[Street Light 643]

interesting!!!! i've always thought something similar, but beyond consciousness, i believe magic is metaphysical. there is an interplay between the two -- the ability to wield magic itself implies a conscious intent, or an awareness. the knowledge to cast and channel spells implies concentration, imagination, and even learned skill. i'd say self-awareness and emotional depth are most required in order to harness and channel the latent magic in equestria. i do not however think that the world itself is without inherent magic that allows this to happen. 

magic in the world appears to be kind of an ambient, persistent force, like gravity or electromagnetism. it's one that interacts with one's biology, similar to how the electromagnetic spectrum presents itself in the biology of certain animals in our world, i.e birds being able to see magnetic fields ^~^ the magical spectrum is one that evolves primarily within ponies more than any other creature, though, it seems. whether that's evolutionary favoritism or not, it just seems like there's a connection between the two, neither consciousness or the biosphere can exist in its current state without one exploiting or shaping the other. fillies like sweetie belle learn magic, suggesting their consciousness grows and develops as they grow older, like us, and they're able to harness the existent energies. consciousness determines the "how" and the "why", the biosphere determines the "what"

an example of a seemingly magical phenomenon devoid of consciousness could be the wendigos, or the everfree forest itself. do we think that those have a consciousness? the wendigos never seemed to wield purpose or intent, rather a cataclysmic force that exists as a result of X or Y. 

as far as compassionate consciousness is concerned, without the metaphysical mumbo jumbo, i think we could be on a course similar to the ponyverse uwu but i think their world is uniquely engineered, perhaps through resonance; where clarity, resolve and harmony reap the greatest rewards in what it has to offer.

[Night Sky 855]

4 hours ago, Street Light said:

as far as compassionate consciousness is concerned, without the metaphysical mumbo jumbo, i think we could be on a course similar to the ponyverse uwu but i think their world is uniquely engineered, perhaps through resonance; where clarity, resolve and harmony reap the greatest rewards in what it has to offer.

Precisely, we cannot be Ponies in the human world, we have to go to Equestria to be ponies. But we can come back with the heart of a pony within us, and this world will be the better for it.

Edited May 29 by Night Sky

[Dawnshine Wonder 2,713]

I would like a fiction vs reality topic on the forum that allows politics, but for that to occur we need to be in the Twilight Sopabox section or else we are violating the rules here if we do bring up political discussion.

We could both describe in detail why we would prefer to be loyal to Equestria than the hellscape that is our world though.

Good thing magic does not exist in our world though, otherwise it would have disastrous outcomes and humans would abuse it a lot more than Ponies in Equestria would. Once humans become greedy, and humans are, it becomes a difficult cycle to break, we see the effects on biodiversity because of it. Extinction is inevitable, not a matter of if, but when, but human aggression and obsession with accumulation of wealth at the expense of others, is accelerating that process. Unless a drastic change in our collective behavior is made, I believe we're screwed.

 

 

Ponies in Equestria from My Little Pony Friendship is Magic tv show are different though, their world is not anywhere near the mess the real world is, and they do share their power, despite the criticisms against their Monarchy, one thing I do respect about them highly is they don't cause war, especially since Princess Luna's reform after her Nightmare Moon fiasco with Princess Celestia, even then I would not say Luna was evil, she turned violent because of a misunderstanding, while not a justification, there is a reason why she lashed out, other Ponies did discriminate against her, it's just that from what we can tell, it wasn't all Celestia's fault. This is why friendship is important to embrace, compassion can reduce conflict like that, either between siblings or other individuals or both. Princess Celestia does not make the best decision all the time, but no Rulers ever did, however I'd much rather be loyal to her, than the corrupt individuals in real life.

[Night Sky 855]

1 hour ago, Dawnshine Wonder said:

"Once humans become greedy, and humans are, it becomes a difficult cycle to break, we see the effects on biodiversity because of it. Extinction is inevitable, not a matter of if, but when, but human aggression and obsession with accumulation of wealth at the expense of others, is accelerating that process. Unless a drastic change in our collective behavior is made, I believe we're screwed."

"Ponies in Equestria from My Little Pony Friendship is Magic tv show are different though, their world is not anywhere near the mess the real world is, and they do share their power, despite the criticisms against their Monarchy..."

- Human greed is extraordinarily deadly. For us all. That so few people could get away with doing so much damage to others and to the planet, says as much about the rest of us as it does about the 1% of the 1%. Maybe we're all greedy, and they're just the best or the most successful at it. I personally don't consider that a political statement.

To my mind anyway, that's not a statement about politics, it's a statement about Values. FIM is a show that has and is about values. That should be obvious if you watch it. But if it isn't, one of the voice actresses states this important point explicitly in the special features of the Gen 4 film. 

I think a lot of people who scream about other people's greed still feel that, somewhere in shuffle, there is space and resources for them to spend money they don't have on stuff they don't need. As you said, the change would need to be drastic, and everyone would have to embrace it together. That's not a statement about politics, it's a statement about Harmony.

- Ha. Now that I'm on Tumblr I'm seeing those criticisms of the fact that the Kingdom of Equestria is a monarchy. That makes me laugh. I'm probably drifting close to the danger zone here so I'll stop. However, a lot of people have no sense of irony, at all. That in and of it self is not a political statement, it is a statement about Humor. Anyone can PM me for clarification if you don't get the joke.

Edited May 29 by Night Sky

[Dawnshine Wonder 2,713]

19 minutes ago, Night Sky said:

- Human greed is extraordinarily deadly. For us all. That so few people could get away with doing so much damage to others and to the planet, says as much about the rest of us as it does about the 1% of the 1%. Maybe we're all greedy, and they're just the best or the most successful at that. I personally don't consider that a political statement.

To me anyways, that's a statement about values. FIM is a show that has and is about values. That should be obvious if you watch it. But if it isn't one of the voice actresses states explicitly in the special fratures of the Gen 4 film. 

I think a lot of people who scream about other people's greed still feel that somewhere there is space for them to spend money they don't have on stuff they don't need. As you said, the change would need to be drastic...

- Ha. Now that I'm on Tumblr I've seeing criticisms of the fact that the Kingdom of Equestria is a monarchy. That makes me laugh. I'm probably drifting close to the danger zone here so I'll stop. However, a lot of people have no sense of irony, at all. That in and of it self is not a political statement, it is a statement about humor. 

I agree, however planned obsolescence and over consumption of resources is a problem we are all or mostly guilty of, we do it sometimes without even realizing it, such as our tendency to buy new instead of used but otherwise working order products. Okay hygiene may be a reasonable argument against second hand clothes, but what about electronic gadgets? Apple encourages this nefarious behavior as well, with their anti right to repair nonsense and patented hardware, making it harder for third party vendors to do repairs on phones or tablets without them malfunctioning again, then we have the problem where people are constantly upgrading to new phones every year, even when their old phones still work, it's madness, increasing the demand for toxic rare Earth materials like lithium and cobalt.

I've made a habit out of buying used items lately, such as my Audio Technica r70x headphones, they were not new, but I managed to get them in good condition, seller claimed the box was damaged but when it arrived, the box did not even have a single dent on it. At any rate, purchasing used or refurbished electronics can reduce the e-waste problem, even if slightly.

And I've not upgraded to a new phone in a very long time, I still have my old Samsung Galaxy S8, it still works and does what I need it to, so I see no reason to change it for a new one.

I am worried about losing it though, which is why I got a portable music player to use for music listening sessions. But I do try to prevent buying things I don't need or will never use, some people are better than I am at this and don't even purchase half of the electronics I do and still manage, either because they cannot afford to, or they shop smarter.

it is especially important to avoid throwing out stuff that still works if possible, because this is where the real problem is, things ending up in landfills or otherwise increasing demand for materials that are polluting the environment. Some people new buy stuff constantly just because they see somebody else who has the latest expensive luxury but not necessarily needed item, it is a vicious cycle that will ultimately make life harder for all of us.

Edited May 29 by Dawnshine Wonder

[Dawnshine Wonder 2,713]

1 hour ago, Night Sky said:

Ha. Now that I'm on Tumblr I've seeing criticisms of the fact that the Kingdom of Equestria is a monarchy. That makes me laugh. I'm probably drifting close to the danger zone here so I'll stop. However, a lot of people have no sense of irony, at all. That in and of it self is not a political statement, it is a statement about humor. 

We need a thread for this purpose, in Twilight Soapbox for that reason, if you'll join me there we can discuss it in a friendly manner and without violating their rules.

Also I've said on there before in other threads I would much rather support the Monarchy in Equestria if I were in that fictional world than the backwards systems we have in the real world that perpetuate conflict. It amuses me that other people somehow think abolishing the Monarchy leads to a better result automatically, it does not and there is plenty of precedent for that.

I don't agree with a lot of what Lilly Orchard says on Youtube but one thing she was right about, was the Monarchy, it isn't inherently worse than the alternative, it's more nuanced than some may think, when we add fictional stories into the mix like Equestria from My Little Pony FIM, that only bolsters our point further.

I would like to discuss this in more detail here but unfortunately the rules of this site mean we can get into trouble for political discussion outside Twilight's Soapbox threads.