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On 2/5/2019 at 1:49 PM, Brainstorm said:

Interesting. Rarity tried to get her mane to be like Celestia and Luna's Mane.

Oooh, could we be talking about a potential for Princess Rarity sometime in the near future?

Am I the only one who thinks that Rarity and Spike's relationship should go into full-on romance (and eventually, marriage) later on down the road?

With Twilight Sparkle being obsessed over winning in this episode, I really do feel her pain that she may have lost. As you see, I admit that I am also obsessed with winning at games and when I lose, I feel really disappointed.

On the other hand, I think I may need to start thinking about how much I had fun playing a game rather than obsessing over whether or not I won or lost.

21 hours ago, Dark Qiviut said:

It's more than just them being idiots that earned NCC its well-deserved negative reception.

1. This episode rips off Fall Weather Friends, a much better and smarter episode than this one.
2. The intelligence of both Dash and AJ was reduced, and their growth absent, to contrivedly increase the conflict and make the Student Six look more competent by comparison. They were very OOC in this episode.
3. Again, a time and place for AJ and Dash to squabble. Disregarding the safety of their students to win a useless award isn't that time. Had they remained responsible, Yona wouldn't nearly drown, and thus Twilight wouldn't choose the remainder of the trip for her friends.
4. Even after Twilight chewed them out, they were still as disagreeable as ever, and it got so bad that Yona once took the lead for them.
5. After supposedly learning their lesson, the episode concludes with them arguing like children, heavily suggesting the lesson doesn't stick with them. As such, the story feels pointless.

NCC carries too much stupid and lazy to handle.

Even though Rainbow Dash and Applejack acted OOC in this episode, that is never, and I mean NEVER an excuse for anyone to attack Kim Beyer-Johnson (the writer of NCC) over it at all, and there better NOT be any death threats sent to her over how bad this episode is because that behavior is childish, abusive and totally unacceptable.

2 hours ago, Royce said:

When people can't chew with their goddamn mouths closed.

Like, honestly, I am just about to leap across the table to shut that jaw of yours. 

STOP IT

Oh yeah, I most definitely agree! Chewing with your mouth open is definitely rude and is also considered bad manners at a dinner table. Those people really do need to work on their table manners, don't they?

Just now, Dark Qiviut said:

Don't know, and since this is a fictional world with its own norms, I think they'd do differently. But if I ran the school, I'd fire them.

Will Applejack still have her farm and will Rainbow Dash still remain with the Wonderbolts?

3 minutes ago, Dark Qiviut said:

I would say yes, but getting nominated for Teacher of the Month for being so incompetent (and perhaps winning it later) is good enough.

What punishments can be expected for Rainbow Dash and Applejack, to be exact?

1 hour ago, Dark Qiviut said:

I already watched it when it was leaked, and my thoughts remain the same. This episode is crap.

AJ and Rainbow Dash were completely OOC here, especially the latter for putting her focus on winning Teacher of the Month over the Student Six's safety while rowing. Thank God FIM's a piece of fiction, because had it be real-life, the school and Twilight might've had their plots sued for negligence.

This episode features easily my bottom moment of the season: Yona nearly drowning. You'd think for a second that Dash and AJ would stop acting competitive with each other, grow the fuck up, and learn to be teachers. Instead, they continue to qualify one of Neighsay's strongest criticisms of the School: AJ and RD act completely unqualified. You two, this isn't Fall Weather Friends; at least you two weren't that close at the time, and the stakes were much lower. Had they remained competent and in character, that canoeing accident wouldn't have happened, and Yona wouldn't have to have her life saved.

The dialogue itself is lousy. Clunky, forced, and painfully unfunny.

To make it worse, this episode feels a lot like filler. After thy learned how their competitive behavior got in the way, they started arguing again, and it was all back to square one.

The only saving graces here are Twilight calling Dash and AJ out for their shit (and threatening to take over the field trip after Yona nearly drowned) and Dash and AJ getting nominated for TotM — them risking that reward will make them think about how stupid they behaved on the trip.

Overall, a major thumbs down.

Do you think Rainbow Dash and Applejack should be punished for what they did in this episode?

Am I the only one who thinks that Applejack should've given Twilight an angry earful of a scolding for not listening to her with the way she lied to Celestia in this episode, or am I just letting my angry emotions cloud up my mind?

5 hours ago, CoffeeHoof said:

I think Fluttershy was out of character, but specifically she was out of character because she was acting in "roles" that were deliberately not like her normal character - and that's ok.  It was in character for her to try and hide behind a persona, and it builds on the theatrical side of her we saw with the Ponytones.

It was also cringeworthy to watch though; this is the second episode in succession that had a "bad american sitcom" vibe to it, although I couldn't point to a specific american abomination this was based on (unlike the SheldonPony)

Well, based on what you have said just now, I have estimated the reason why Fluttershy was being out of character in this episode: I think she had tried to cover up who she really was in an attempt to blend in with the customers.

On 4/8/2018 at 2:05 PM, Dark Qiviut said:

Your reasoning falls very flat, because they're fictional characters for a TV show, not real people. In real life, people do regress or become out of character, because as @Jeric pointed out, RL personalities are dynamic. But writers can manipulate what fictional characters are capable of and choose to go forward with it or not. In fictional, character-driven shows like this one, the audience expects them to stay true to their characterization and stick to what they learned, especially when they're role models, like the Mane 8.

Fluttershy is out of character in this episode, because she abused her friends and especially her animal friends. It was Fluttershy who convinced Rarity to not only let Smokey et al to stay in the shop, but help serve them, too. An IC Flutttershy understands they can be trusted and will defend them regardless of any mistakes they make, especially if a Manehattanite spits on their faces. Here, FS yelled at them, directly insulted them, and threatened to evict them if they blunder a third time. Rarity also became out of character for insulting her customers, implicating she opened Rarity for You for self-serving purposes.

You know, as bad as Fluttershy's behavior was in this episode, I would NEVER EVER have the audacity to send any death threats to the episode's writer over Fluttershy being out of character.

2 minutes ago, n1029 said:

Ok then, you're angry and immature. 

Seriously, get a grip. She realized her mistake on her own and made an effort to make up for it. And considering all the pies the Ponyville townfolk got out of it I doubt they'd be too upset.

Also, I think in this universe where pets are shown to have a modicum of agency I believe some of the responsibility has to lie on Tank for eating the pies, the second one which Dash didn't actually make him eat if not the first. That he swallowed it whole and had a smug grin on his face afterwards is indicative that he wasn't too concerned himself.

 

Oh dear, I apologize and am deeply sorry for the way I mistreated Rainbow Dash with a huge punishment. I guess I let my anger and hatred for her actions cloud up my mind, but I guess I'm gonna have to start being calm and mature about any mistakes that a pony would make.

3 minutes ago, The Artist Formerly Known As A.V. said:

 

Personally, I say Rainbow Dash -- she did get careless with Tank's health, after all.

Oh and not only that, but she also lied to Pinkie Pie and betrayed her trust!

Call me angry and immature, but I honestly think RD should be shunned, hated and ostracized by everypony in Ponyville for the way she lied to Pinkie and put Tank's health at risk and I think Spitfire should also kick Rainbow out of the Wonderbolts for what she did. Her parents as well as Scootaloo are sure to have some choice words with her about her actions as well.

On 10/14/2017 at 2:59 PM, Dark Qiviut said:

This one stunk. Badly.

1. Pinkie's characterization is easily the worst of the season. For so long, she genuinely fell for Dash "look-at-that!" trick and believed Dash enjoyed her pies. Pinkie, you're usually great. You became a mega-idiot here.
2. The entire story is a stretched-out, paper-thin ripoff of Party of One. The only true difference is Pinkie didn't become super deranged.
3. Rainbow Dash (as wrong as she was for lying and betraying Pinkie's trust) had to undergo the same, clichéd shtick of having to be taught a lesson. To the point of punishing herself to teach a lesson.
4. Almost every joke sucked. Each of them can be placed in one of three categories:
   1. Stretching for far too to the point of thin. After the first time, Dash's "look at that!" and all other variations got old. Fast.
   2. Degrading characterization. Dash was OOC for feeding Tank her pie. If she's a smart, responsible master, she wouldn't poison him in desperation to get rid of her pie. The fact she did it twice is even worse! As someone who takes care of two cats and sees them as my children, it really pissed me off!
   3. Disgusting. Pinkie's exaggerated, big-lipped face; the detailed fatigue in her eyes; and that detailed dumpster were completely disgusting. The worst here, the dumpster pie, is in exaggeratedly gross detail and pure nightmare fuel. One of the worst jokes of the series.

The only redeeming values here are Pinkie's imagination creating the evil Dash in her memory, Twilight and AJ, the moral itself ("Better to be honest to your friend than hold onto a lie so long"), and Pinkie waking up Dash.

No, it's not awful, but it's bad. It joins Infamous & Mistake-in-Storytelling (an objectively worse episode than S&P) as the second bad episode this half. So far, easily Hamilton's worst in the series.

So who do you think should be punished? Rainbow Dash or Pinkie Pie?

4 hours ago, heavens-champion said:

You say that like it's a bad thing.

No, it's nothing like that; it's just that I don't want the usual mane style Rarity has had since 2010 to go away permanently. I just hate saying goodbye to that mane style.

34 minutes ago, Dark Qiviut said:

The end of the episode skipped several months ahead to conclude. Her mane and tail eventually grew back to normal.

Oh, so Rarity's normal mane style since 2010 is here to stay?

8 hours ago, Dark Qiviut said:

Don't know what to say about the episode right now, but one thing I will say is good on the episode to not fix Rarity's mane. Magic can't solve every problem in Equestrian life, y'know.

Does this mean that this will be the last ever episode to feature the normal mane style that has been with Rarity since the show's premiere in 2010?

Whatever happened to Abacus Cinch? Did she get fired/demoted or did she just quit her job as principal?

12 hours ago, Dark Qiviut said:

I just listened to the song again.

To say it's beautiful is a MAJOR understatement! My eyes started to water a little.

Did you wind up going full-on crying when you listened to the song?

Do you think Applejack's family is going to be disappointed in her for what she did in this episode?

This might sound bizzare, but do you think Applejack's gonna be punished for what she did in this episode?

Could this episode mark the final day where Sweetie Belle would do puppet shows, play dress-up and take silly photos with Rarity as well as eat ice cream that is shaped like a clown?

7 minutes ago, Dark Qiviut said:

One episode doesn't hurt, and the season doesn't use one writer. So, yeah, not worried yet.

So in other words, Pinkie Pie still has a chance to redeem herself.

1 minute ago, Dark Qiviut said:

Not sure. It'll have to do a lot to get that high.

(In case you're wondering, PPOV's in third place for me, with FV and Trade Ya! taking the top two spots, respectively.)

So do you still have faith in Pinkie Pie since this episode thankfully avoided the dishonor of "Worst Characterization of Pinkie"?

3 minutes ago, Dark Qiviut said:

Nah. I've seen worse. *cough* Filly Vanilli, PPOV *cough*

(Though she's obnoxious as hell here.)

So, do you think this episode take 3rd place for worst characterization of Pinkie Pie?