Fractured

For the people that say such things are trivial...
Ever notice how a lot of young girls tend to be scared of spiders, even if they're otherwise the rough-and-tough types?
Ever notice that young boys tend to scoff at romantic stuff, even if they're the type that cries at the drop of a hat?
Simple stuff like sexual stereotypes can actually alter what we do before we're even aware of it. My four year old cousin isn't old enough to pronounce full sentences, but she's still able to tell me "I can't have a Pinkie Pie plushie" because "it's for girls", and to tell my other cousin of the same age that "she can't be Batman", because "only boys can be Batman".
"I have to do this because i'm a boy", "I have to do this because i'm a girl"... It's the kind of thing I desperately wish to erase.

Then by Dr. Wolf's logic, Hasbro has to be the biggest hypocrites on the planet. They don't want tackle themes like death, yet they have the Autobots running around killing Decepticons in Transformers Prime. I'm not asking for MLP to become Transformers, but if a 22 minute adaptation of a boys toy can tackle death, there is no excuse as to why girls are not allowed to be exposed to death as well. 

That's more because there's a stigma surrounding robots... it's perfectly okay for them to die, brutally, because they're not human. Take Justice League(the tv show), for instance: you'll never see Superman kill a human being, but give him a robot, even a humanoid one with speech and original thought(ala braniac), and watch him tear it to pieces. Same goes with the undead; the idea that it's not human subconsciously draws away some of the the sensitivity... at least, that's what people believe.

It's a toss-up. If it's Pinkie Pie or Sunset Shimmer, i'm going all in(no sexy stuff,though). If it's Diamond Tiara... i'm going to pony prison, I suppose. I wonder if they serve cake there?

Subliminal racist messages brainwashing kids?
Not so much
However, there does seem to be some odd going-ons in the show, especially revolving around earth ponies. In Winter Wrap Up, the central point was that Unicorns weren't allowed to use magic, for instance, and I remember some back and forth's in over a barrel that seemed...biologically based. Also, they do sell deer as pets, although hopefully that was just writers error.

Is it written anywhere that you can't enjoy a show about candy-colored ponies sharing love and friendship and be a man at the same time?

 

Look at this guy right here

 

The guy's a brony and manly as f***

 

Forget about this man-card bull

Such a glorious mustache... give me a minute

...

Anyways, i'm with Pinkamena_Pills. Even if it is...funny...at times... it frames the idea that men can't do something even slightly feminine without being branded. Things like this put pressure on all of us to behave a certain way. And just like Justin Bieber sounding like a girl)presumably) started out as a joke, this idea is the basework that eventually leads to people taking it way too far, ala "public shaming and beatings in the street" too far. It's really not worth the trouble it causes.

I wouldn't die, I just don't feel like it'd be fun living in Equestria without being a pony. I'd be like a living museum or something.

You can indeed be a pony, courtesy of one purple book loving unicorn, but the rules would still apply, at least for a week.

Probably go to Twilight Sparkle's library...oh wait the Library blew up...Anyways, I'll go to Twilight's Castle. Get a house. Join the crusaders, assuming I don't have a cutie mark. Then get a cutie mark and live happily ever after!!!!! 

Everything effects you much the same way it would a normal human being...joining the crusaders seems like a quick way to an early grave. o.O

Then wouldn't you be dead because a 3D body cannot exist in a 2D world. Also there would be no air to breath and no heat which means dieing in an airless cold void.

 

Can't forget those freaking random flower pots that would kill you as the ponies would have little idea on how to treat a human with their limited knowledge about human biology.

It's a real world; the only thing different is that you lack cartoon humor, so i'd pay attention to Pinkie very closely;falling objects will indeed put you in the hospital, at the least. All of the other things that might cause issues are handwaved by god work normally.

This would not happen. This doesn't even seem fun. Why would you want this?

Everything comes with a price, V. This one is just...potentially fatal. Certainly puts a nice twist on the rather repetitive "human winds up in Ponyville and does stuff" stories.

law of inverses,rule 2,subsection 63:
The less important sounding something has, the more likely it is to be immeasurably valuable. Conversely, the more important sounding a title something has, the more likely it is to be... this.
I did fall for it though, so chimi cherry it is.

I don't think there's an actual jail for ponies like that... maybe they get locked up in a dungeon? Obviously they have (or at least had) dungeons in Equestria, otherwise Twilight wouldn't know what a dungeon is. Furthermore... maybe they can be banished from Equestria.. Does exile sound like a fitting punishment for kidnappers, for example?

Depends on what we're assuming Equestria is. Based on the show, any kidnappers would be incompetent morons, with the victim never being in any real danger. He/they wouldn't get banished, he/they would be too dumb to.

That, is the internet. If you stare into it to long, it may begin to stare back.

Eww, you don't want to do that. I got in a staring contest with the internet and ended up barfing up my tacos.

I pose a conondrum to ALL of you p3wnies. Isn't time travel a paradox, since you're traveling to before you traveled to that time, so it would jut create an infinite time loop?! It seems logical to me. Post your parapoopparadoxes here, and hope I don't rationalize them!

You're theory, sir, is self defeating. If you are in a self-replicating time line, you no doubt have a time machine, which means one could travel to the point after the event in question and continue time in a...straight line. Alternatively, you could influence events such that you alter time and the younger you fixes the problem himself.

He knows the fate of everyone who pisses the sun goddess... becoming yet another statue in Celestia's collection.
Seriously, though, he'd  probably land community service doing some really unpleasant work. Worked for Sunset Shimmer, and she's an attempted murderer/treasonist.

I see ya'll picking Pinkamena and Flutterbat and all that, but the most disturbing moment of the series thus far is "Too Many Pinkie Pies." Which moment? All the moments. This entire episode is just amazingly unnerving within the context of MLP.

 

Instead of treating the swarm of Pinkie clones as a funny bunch of randomness, the episode portrays it as what it would that would actually be: creepy and destructive. And the idea of how depressing and frightening being the one who gets lost in this swarm and unable to get her friends to believe she's the real Pinkie isn't something the audience thinks about afterwards. It's the driving idea of the episode, and the second half is built around how much that would suck.

 

The ending is the worst part. Ignoring the fact that Twilight is destroying the Pinkie clones, the episode never makes it explicitly clear that the right Pinkie was the last one standing; there's no moment when it's completely confirmed that everything turned out alright. The characters and the audience have to have faith that Pinkie isn't a clone. The evidence points to Pinkie being real, but the idea that she may have been zapped into the pond after all lingers in your mind. Now that is disturbing.

 

Of course, I could say "It Ain't Easy Being Breezies" was also a 22 minute disturb-o-thon, but for all the wrong reasons.

It also says quite a bit about Pinkie's relationship with her friends when they can't tell her from the rest of her hyperactive, over the top clones. It also challenges our faith in Pinkie... it kinda redefined how everybody saw her, to be honest.

It's most likely that the bully will hold something incriminating against her just in case she doesn't keep in line. The New girl will be broken, momentarily, and her life will fall apart. This goes on until her friends confront her and she tells them what's happening. After a short event that reestablishes their friendship, they wreck the bully socially. Happily ever after.

(Picturing Diamond Tiara makes this so much easier.) The bully being written in the sequel is difficult. Honestly, she'll probably be relegated to a side character as seen from the hero's viewpoint. She'll have struggle with her past actions until she does something that fully redeems her, no one(except,possibly, the hero) will truly trust her until then. She has to tow the middle line, she can't regain her original popularity position, nor can she be written as a pity case; either one will hurt her character. Also, her story has to come with a choice; when the hero is at a pivotal point(the life or death scene), she has to make a choice; save her, or go back to who she was. Doing the first will fully redeem her(and make her her own character), doing the latter will seal her as a permanent villain.

All those people running to Twilight's house; hope you got a good explanation, cause a strange creature just waltzing into the library of the most powerful unicorn in Ponyville in the middle of the night could have...unintended consequences.

Pinkie Pie all the way. Who could resist?
(man, i'd date the hell out of her. )

And realize you have no cartoon immunity. This means everything will affect you as if you were a normal human; simple things like Rainbow Dash crashing into you or Spike breathing on you will kill you.
Now you have to survive a week in Ponyville. You start of all alone, in the middle of the night, so what you do first is a key factor. Where do you go first? What do you do after that? How do you explain this bizzare concept to ponies? Discuss; just keep in mind the main goal is survival above all other things.

In this situation, the movie's not over yet, i'd say it's about half-way through. This would be the part where things get serious. The new girl and her friends completely overthrow the MG's position in power, probably in front of everyone. Then the mean girl discovers something that the new girl doesn't want her friends to know, probably something embarrassing. Three situations could occur; the new girl tries to avoid it entirely and it drives a wedge between her and her friends, the mean girl reveals it after a stand-off, and it drives a wedge between the new girl and her friends, or one of the friends finds out and tells her friend there's nothing to worry about. Doesn't matter though, because it all ends the same; the friends band together through some circumstance, come back to school, and completely upstage the bully, this time definitely in front of everybody. Her power shattered, all her friends gone, the bully leaves, never  to be seen again, and the best friends stay friends forever.

How will I die? If there's a god up there with a sense of humor, i'll be eaten by cows.

Considering the fate of all those who are new to Ponyville is to either meet Rainbow Dash or Pinkie Pie first, i'd be less worried about clothes and more about cartoon immunity... just pray you meet Rarity or Twilight first, it's your only chance to live. Hmm... wonder what the climate's like in Equestria, what with pegasus controlling the weather and all?

Okay, so you're a human in Equestria.
The first human in Equestria.

Joking aside, seeing as how you're completely original and all, i'm pretty sure Rarity would give you clothes in exchange for working with you, if it's a big issue. The only reason i'd wear clothes is to avoid freezing to death in winter and maybe burning in summer. Really, why would guys be worried about genitals, everyone's got them, and it's not like you're going to...to...to...  (Uncomfortable scenarios and hilarious explanations ensue.)

 "Sonic the Hedgehog" was broadcast on ABC, hence lower viewship then if it was on Fox Kids (which ran Power Rangers against it, hence even LOWER viewers!).  While some of the later episodes started to slip in quality, the first season was better.  While not the BEST show at the time (far from it), it was much more then the videogame's simple story.  In this version, Robotnik had already taken over, and Sonic was part of a group of Freedom Fighters, making for a much darker storyline then most kids cartoons.  Too bad the series ended on a cliffhanger....

 

But I'm steered us off topic.  This was about the fanbases, not the shows.  Forgive me, just sitting here remembering the good 'ol days of cartoons....

 

As i've said before:  the MLP fanbase is way more involved then the sonic one is/was.  I would rank Bronies right next to Trekkies in the love of their show (and in their obsession, lol).  and I can say that, as a card-caring Trekkie myself!

We also have quite a bit of similarities to them, including our intense love of worldbuilding, and the "anything's possible" nature of the show. People also view us much the same way as Trekkies, at least originally; something that they weren't okay with because it broke the status quo.

are you sure? im pretty sure Dragonball whooped every other cartoon at that time.

I don't remember the sonic cartoon even getting much appreciation at the time...If I remember correctly, Sonic wasn't on Fox or Cartoon Network, the two big things at that time.

If that's the case, this shouldn't even be a thread.  I mean, RD and AJ aren't ever going to get into a fight where they want to knock the other out or even kill them.  So, what's the point of this thread, in that case?

 

DERP

 

It's worth discussing because it's true.  

 

(Wow I need to stop coming to this thread.  Too many fallacies.  To much dismissing of fact.  Why do I even bother...)

 

Earth. Ponies. Are. Stronger.

Period.

 

You, my good sir, have missed the point. Whether it's true or not doesn't necessarily matter in this match-up. I'll cede Applejack is stronger if that's really an issue, but you need evidence to show that's she's capable of reacting to someone or something going as fast as Rainbow Dash. Currently, there's nothing stopping RD from throwing down a Sonic Rainboom of whoopass on Applejack or going all 17:55 on her:

and cutting her in half.

Well to play devils advocate here, our highs are higher, and our lows are lower. For instance, while our music is subjectively better than Sonic(they don't tend to make a lot of it, anyway), no one in the sonic fanbase(near that I know of) has ever made something as terrible and prolific as Sweet Apple Massacre. We've also only been around en masse for about four years; as far as fandoms go, we're really young. It's hard to compare because of that reason; fandoms tend to make or break when a lot of their quality is exhausted.