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  1. So during my time off this site while I was working or moving the house around I kept thinking about how Equestria Girls and what happened to Sunset Shimmer with the Element of Magic or what it meant for the Mane6 and the Villains of the show. I ended up spending a few hours past midnight writing it down and trying to organize my thoughts on the subject. I give all credit to the various threads I stole ideas from and I'm to tired to go look for all of them. lol [SPOILERS BELOW] [Also this could be considered Head-canon so if it turns out incorrect then oh well. It was a nice thought experiment.] In Equestria and whatever the world is called we see many types of magic but learn very little about them. Yet they remain prevalent throughout the show as a major background focus. I now believe that there are three magic systems in the world and these are called Entropy, Natural, and Harmony which indirectly representing the usual Good vs Neutral vs Evil style. From these magical powers came six(6) more specialized versions. Chaos & Darkness, Arcane & Passive, Love & Friendship. Each of the new magical powers are spread throughout the world with some magic being more obvious in some creatures like Ponies or Sirens for example. Because of this we should now call the Elements of Harmony by their true name which would be the Elements of Friendship. Chaos is mostly concentrated in Discord which would explain why he is so powerful compared to the others. He would act as the token opposite of Love by being the Element of Chaos. Darkness however is more spread out into artifacts or the major Villains we have seen so far and I believe it maintains it's own 'Elements of Darkness' similar to the'Elements of Harmony or in this case Friendship. We can see this in each villain representing an element of Darkness. Sunset Shimmer as a Demon also represented another Element of Darkness. However, by assigning Sunset an Element we must acknowledge that she also represented an Element of Harmony at one point. This does not mean the other Villains also represented such things or that she represented her direct opposite. So I believe that we will have another major villain representing the opposite of Sunset Shimmers Element of Friendship. King Sombra = Dark Element of Cruelty Lord Tirek = Dark Element of Greed The Sirens = Dark Element of Deception Nightmare Moon = Dark Element of Fear Queen Chrysalis = Dark Element of Falsehood Sunset [Demon] = Dark Element of Power Unknown Villain = Dark Element of Doubt. Now that we have this list, we should be able to easily sort out their Friendship opposites. But before that we should look into Twilight's Element of Magic and the 'Spark' that apparently had little meaning except as a plot tool. In a flashback on episode Princess Twilgiht Sparkle - Part 1 we can notice that the 6th Element of Magic was already there and did not need to 'appear' after the Spark as originally stated in the first two episodes of season 1. This caught my interest and leads me to believe that it does not represent the Element of Magic but represents the Element of Leadership and Twilight just happened to be the Spark who got the new Element Holders together. Now instead of [Twilight Sparkle = Element of Magic] it should be [Twilight Sparkle = Element of Leadership]. The list is basically the same with a slight wording change to better represent it's position. Twilight Sparkle = Element of Leadership (Spark) Applejack = Element of Honesty Rainbow Dash = Element of Loyalty Fluttershy = Element of Kindness Rarity = Element of Generosity Pinkie Pie = Element of Laughter Sunset Shimmer = Element of Faith Sunset Shimmer could possibly have been a Spark but I am unsure on that. Since Sunset is now in the Human world this means the Elements of Friendship are missing a Holder for that Element which means the Element is spread through each of them instead. At this point I assume some of you will point out that none of the Dark Elements required a Spark. This is true and I shall now explain what the Spark means in my theory. The Spark acts as a Safeguard against corruption and to ensure the virtues of Friendship are upheld. It is commonly seen with the Element of Leadership holder and thus assumed to be tied to it. This lead to the Element of Leadership being called the Element of Magic as the only two known Holders of the Element have been powerful in the Arcane arts. We see this with Princess Celestia and Princess Luna when Luna is corrupted into Nightmare Moon. They failed to uphold the Elements of Friendship with each other and allowed Fear to overtake Luna. Later we see Princess Celestia attempting to save Luna and rekindle their friendship but as that fails Celestia uses the Elements of Friendship to banish Luna to the Moon until a time when new bearers of the Elements could arise. Assuming Celestia was the Spark for the two sisters this means the Spark could be used with only a limited number of Friendship Elements. Doing so strips the creature of their Element Holder status and the Spark inside them. A complete list now shows each Element of Friendship and it's Element of Darkness. Twilight Sparkle = Element of Leadership (Spark) ~|~ Dark Element of Power = Sunset Shimmer [Demon] Applejack = Element of Honesty ~|~ Dark Element of Falsehood = Queen Chrysalis Rainbow Dash = Element of Loyalty ~|~ Dark Element of Deception = The Sirens Fluttershy = Element of Kindness ~|~ Dark Element of Cruelty = King Sombra Rarity = Element of Generosity ~|~ Dark Element of Greed = Lord Tirek Pinkie Pie = Element of Laughter ~|~ Dark Element of Fear = Nightmare Moon Sunset Shimmer = Element of Faith ~|~ Dark Element of Doubt = Unknown Villain Edit: Switched NMM and the Sirens after looking back on the list. So after making this list I decided that since other species would probably be able to utilize the Elements of Friendship as well. But they are both more limited in their preferred Friendship Values and by sheer number difference(It's more likely to see a pony with an Element than a Donkey as there are more ponies around.) in terms of their species size. = Species Elemental Preferences = Earth Ponies [Honesty, Laughter] Pegasus [Kindness, Loyalty] Unicorns [Leadership, Generosity] •Alicorns• [Faith] Griffon's [Loyalty, Leadership, Kindness] Diamond Dogs [Generosity, Laughter, Honesty] Dragons [Leadership, Faith, Generosity] Buffalo [Loyalty, Honesty, Faith] •Cattle are 'civilized' Buffalo• Donkeys [Generosity, Laughter, Kindness] Minotaur's [Leadership, Kindness, Loyalty] Zebras [Generosity, Loyalty, Faith] Sea Ponies [same as Ponies with Faith spread out to all types] •Have no Alicorns• Sea Serpents [Loyalty, Generosity, Laughter] Changeling [see Below] •Note• While I have no proof I believe the Changelings and Queen Chrysalis are actually a type of corrupted ponies. As seen above I set QC as Falsehood to symbolize their ability to change their forms and because it fits her character. So I assume this means a pony similar to Starlight Glimmer had gathered a small following and this pony did something to gain the powers of an Alicorn. This came with a heavy cost and left a shameful mark on the Equestrian's history about the creation of the Changeling species/race. With no way to remove the curse but having gained their new abilities the newly dubbed 'Changelings' left Equestria to find a new Home. The curse allowed them to shift from three corrupted pony types into a more Hive-like Insect race. They still maintain the same attributes as normal ponies(Like the Sea Ponies) but are more inclined toward the Entropy side of the Elements now. [End Changeling] • Limited Future Speculation • Elk/Deer [Faith] Rhino [Leadership] Llamas [Kindness] Satyrs [Laughter] (Likely to close to humans to appear) Naga [Loyalty] (Likely to close to humans to appear) Moose [Generosity] At this point I'll stop to address the magic of Love, the Crystal Empire/Ponies, and Cadence. I've notice three(3) things in the show about Love and Friendship. I could be looking for things that are not there. 1. Friendship will always offer it's hand to it's enemies and never kill them. 2. Love is not always kind or quick to forgive as seen with King Sombra. 3. Chaos can be directed to a more Harmonic end as (so far) seen with Discord. We will be discussing the first two points, from the Crystal Empire episodes we see that the Crystal Ponies are... well, made of crystal. I think this was only due to the constant focus of power from the Crystal Heart creating the Aurora. The constant bombardment of Love magic slowly reshaped the ponies living near it over several generations of ponies. Forming the first Crystal Ponies. These Crystal Ponies are likely more passionate and emotional(kind of like Rarity and her drama moments.) As in our world, Love can cause happiness, jealousy, a sense of purpose, madness, etc... In the show, we have seen that unlike the Magic of Friendship that Love; or more specifically the Element of Love(Crystal Heart?) has destroyed it's enemies. While some bronies would prefer to see King Sombra again(me included) I don't think it would make sense to bring him back unless they introduced some kind of necromantic magic to the show. That of course would make the show rather dark, a good example would be like making the 'Story of the Blanks' a canon event in the show. There would be so much hilarious backlash that the show would die out because of it. I'd rather avoid that if possible. Anyway, the Magic of Love is less spread out to the rest of the world and maintains a focal point in the Crystal Empire similar to the Tree of HarmonyFriendship for the Magic of Friendship and the Element of Friendship Holders. Cadence is special due to her Cutie Mark which grants her the ability to use the Magic of Love without being a Crystal Pony. After I revisited the above I wrote up a new list based on the overall magics of Entropy and Harmony = Species Harmonic Preferences = Draconequus [Chaos]-Direct to Discord Crystal Ponies [Love]-Indirect/Direct Ponies [Friendship]-Indirect Centaurs [Darkness]-Indirect All others have no Preference. This ties in the above Species list and their respective Friendship virtue preferences. Now at this point I'm not sure where to continue my theories/mad-research until Hasbro works on establishing a world history to the MLP universe or releases some kind of official role-playing game with a history lesson inside it. I was thinking of the future after the Mane6 as well, which I'm sure most of you assume will include the CMC's. So I wrote a tiny bit on that. The Cutie Mark Crusaders and others will be the successors of the Mane6 in the future. Seriously, how else will they keep the show going? xD Applebloom [Honesty] •Spark• Scootalo [Loyalty] Sweetie Bell [Generosity] Diamond Tiara [Leadership] Has not been Sparked. Silver Spoon [Kindness] Has not been Sparked. Babs Seed [Faith] Dinky Doo or Pipsquek [Laughter]? Has not been Sparked. So those worried about Diamond Tiara acting as the Element of Leadership, I'd like to defer to Twlight who is the Leader but is not always in control of the group or situation. Which is something Diamond Tiara tries to do usually by insulting the CMC. Besides her being a logical choice for the element I think it would also leave room for some character development in Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon. It would go along with the theme of Friendship in the show. I wasn't as sure on the Element of Laughter however as there are many fan-favorites to go by. I though Pipsqueak might work but we have limited info on him so I'm not sure about him. He is already voice-acted though. Dinky Doo is seen a number of times in the show and she could easily be fleshed out into a more formal character. From what I can tell her on-screen personality could match Laughter but I didn't give as much research on her as Diamond or Silver. Alright you can breath now, my rant is over. TL:DR? Here's a summary. Magic, magic, magic, list, magic, list & magic, magic, list, CMC & moar magic, list , CMC & Elements. Fin https://mlpforums.com/topic/116574-can-alicorns-be-killed/ And another thread about species and civilizations that I can't seem to find again.
  2. @Skullbuster (Sorry, I assumed you had anchored the ship a bit closer to shore. lol) The lead pony, shaking his head out of a random daydream as he gets tapped on the shoulder by another patrol-guard who points at the Pegasi further down the shore. Bloody Pegasus, always causing problems. He thinks to himself as they begin trotting over to the unknown ponies.
  3. @@Skullbuster Nearing the boat the lead pony, dressed in a simple and undecorated armor, motions for his patrol to stop at the bottom of the ship before clearing his throat and calling out to anyone on board. "Hello up there! Anypony home?" After he finishes he motions for two of the soldiers to quickly sneak to the other side of the boat and await for his call or the sounds of battle before boarding/returning.
  4. A small patrol of 5 Guards turn a corner past some trees to begin patrolling the coastline and immediately notice the ship. Cautious as always, the lead pony motions for his comrades to keep quiet as they begin walking toward the USS(Unidentified Sailing Ship) hoping they didn't just stumble upon some pirate ponies. "Don't mind him, he's just upset that the Dominion has decided to seek out it's neighbors instead of hiding away back home." She gives a smile back at the Captain who gives a huff and turns his head away in annoyance. "I knew gryphon once, he was a kind fellow and liked to explore a lot. Last time I spoke with him he said he was heading east. Are gryphon's to the east of here unfriendly creatures?"
  5. Nicely done, it was a good presentation and the fun facts about technology through the years was nice. Anyway it's possible that the lack of (non-magical) war in Equestria has lead to the advancement of peaceful or scientific technology. Technology never pursued things like muskets, rockets, or radars as there was no real need for them. ( jk, the royal guard totally needs new weapons. Those spears are useless.) Without a real threat that could endanger all of Equestria and could be defeated without some sort of magic, the ponies grew up in a paradise of sorts. Their Alicorn leaders, EoH Bearers, Crystal Hearts, ect... provided the necessary defenses to keep everypony safe. Maybe you could discuss that for your next episodic 'Reviews & Analysis' if you plan on continuing this at all.
  6. @@SharpWit At your peaceful response and River Tongue's translation to them the majority of the guards visibly relax; although the soldier(who you get the impression of being the commanding officer of the guards) remains annoyed. "While I am authorized to establish first contact and various minor details it would be best for one of the Councilor's to meet with your leader. How long would it take for the request to be processed and accepted?"
  7. @@SharpWit The caravan guards look at each other before two of them step forward. The mare opens her mouth to speak before the stallion appears agitated and tense, she waves him off and speaks in a calm and confident manner. "Hello there friend, I am River Tongue. We are not here to make trouble and have come from the Dominion of Kartrin to establish trade with foreign nations. I am to act as the initial contact representative for my ponies. Might I ask your name?" @@SilentFlight The captain chuckles for a moment. "Pegasi are not particularly liked in the Dominion but I'm sure there will be plenty of ponies willing to trade with your nation. But do excuse our trespass on your lands, we were unaware of your borders at the time." He then turns to the Diplomat and explain that she should speak in [insert your language here]. The Diplomat blushes before speaking in the same language as the Captain. "As I'm sure the captain here was explaining, my caravan here is here to establish trade and friendly relations with neighboring nations."
  8. @@SharpWit The approaching caravan halts at the voice, cautious but unresponsive. Two of the guards walk back to get a third pony and brings her to the front who waves for someone to come forward. Beyond that they simply wait in hopes of a non-violent response. @@SilentFlight The pony named 'Captain' chuckles for a moment before responding. "Sorry, it means product or trade items. Like selling a dress or food, they call it 'wares' in the Dominion. You'll have to discuss any trade with the Diplomat when he gets up here." At the question about the Pegasi the Captain raises an eyebrow. "I could ask the same to you, seeing as how you have no Earth or Unicorn Ponies within your group. But to answer your question the caravan was only assigned a single Pegasus soldier. As the captain pony responds the guard comes back with a new pony dressed in a practical dress. She walks forward and nods to the captain before speaking in the Kartrin tongue, not knowing the Captain was speaking a different language. [OOC: Thank you Sharpwit for indirectly reminding me about that language issue I had written down. lol]
  9. The Captain turns to one of his men and tell them to get the Diplomat before turning back to the Officer. "We come from lands west of here and are looking for a place to trade our wares. I was unaware we were crossing into your borders." The Caravan continues on toward the Airship in hopes of establishing contact with a new trading partner for the Dominion, unaware of the snipers or the danger ahead of them. @@SharpWit @@SilentFlight
  10. If we're going to measure it, I'd recommend checking the distance between Canterlot and Ponyville then cut it by half. But Stormgiggle's way can work too.
  11. @@SilentFlight One of the caravan guards points to the sky as a collection of Pegasus appear, heading in their direction. The Captain of the guards steps forward and gestures for the Diplomat to get inside while the guards deal with the possible danger. Once the Pegasus are close enough the Captain will ask. "Who goes there and what do you want?"
  12. Deep within the city of Stoneheart there was a murmur of cautious interest as the Council assembled outside the Meeting Palace. A large Earth Pony with an orange coat steps forward, wearing a suit that covers his cutie mark. He is known to many as Shady Storm. As he begins to speak he allows one of his fellow Unicorn Councilor to amplify his voice to reach the crowds of ponies below them. Shady Storm: "Welcome Mare's and Stallion's, after meeting with our newly elected Lord Potentate we have agreed that he will lead us through these trying times. I for one will be looking forward to the future with hope. A hope lead by none other than... Raining Hearts!" The Earth Pony steps out of the way as a darkly colored pony steps out from behind the Councilor's. He walks with a quick but steady trot to the front, the sun giving the scattered pink on his fur a strange glow. Silence dawned upon the crowds at the sight of their new ruler, lingering thoughts of the previous one in their minds. Heart's clears his throat before speaking. "Thank you Storm, thank everypony who helped me get to this point. I look forward to leading the Dominion to ever greater heights of science and industry. As you may have heard I have formed a temporary truce with some of the Dragons. This does not mean the attacks will stop but they will be far fewer than the constant war we were forced to wage before." He pauses a moment before continuing. "Keep your trust in my actions and I will do the best to my abilities. The Council is here for you ponies who are unable to reach me directly, tell them your troubles and together we will create a better future for all of ponykind. Now if you will excuse us, the Councilor's and I have matters of state to discuss." He then turns and enters the building, leaving the Councilor's behind awkwardly before they quickly shuffle inside after him. Shady waves the crowd off as a failed replacement for his inability to project his voice with the Unicorn's. [A few hours later inside the Council Room] A slam of a hoof rebounds across the large room, startling one of the guards awake. He looks around in confusion before realizing it's just the Councilor's yelling at each other again and shakes his head. "We won't be sending out ponies to die in the wilderness, I won't have it!" A tall purple pony named Starlight Violet from Fillyrivers yells out. "What you will or won't have does not matter Violet. The Dominion needs to expand it's sphere of influence, the changeling's showed us that!" A gruff earth pony known as Carrot Tool says. "ENOUGH! I am enlisting the ponies regardless of your Support. Disregarding the world around us has only let to war and fear among the ponies of Kartrin." A pony with the voice of Raining Heart's says. A chuckle emits from the only Pegasus Councilor in the room, causing the three ponies to turn in his direction. His bright blue fur standing out against the darker tones of his fellow councilors. "If your so interested in the world then why not send out Pegasus scout's? They can fly across the landscape and avoid any major trouble on the ground. I know some of you dislike my people but we have skills and abilities that you do not." "Oh come now Sky Coins, you know that sending out military soldier's to explore will lead to wonderful first impression's with our neighbors. I propose we instead send out trained Diplomats, we know the general direction of the other nations. The Lord is obviously very determined for this course of action and I believe a vote is in order." Another with the voice of Shady Storm speaks up. "Agreed, now who is willing to lend the support of their province to these expeditions?" Heart's speaks up in an annoyed tone. A moment of silence before Shady Storm speaks up once again. "Boilport will support you." "As will Scalemount." "Fillyrivers will not grant any support." "Sparkshill will support you Lord Potentate." a voice from a yellow Unicorn named Dirt Spells. "Singahoof will support you with what it can." Raining Heart's raises his head in satisfaction as Violet huffs in annoyance. "Then we will go with Storm's plan. But I do want at least one Pegasus guard with each Diplomat, this anger against them is foolish and should not spread beyond our borders. Now if that is all the meeting is done for now. We can collaborate for the expeditions separately but I wan't both of them ready to set out two days from now." As agreed by the Council two caravans filled with products and from Kartrin began to travel with their 25 guard's to the east and south-east in hopes of finding other nations. Each caravan bearing a trained diplomat for first interactions with foreign ponies.
  13. Where would I post my leader interacting with my nation? As in a public speech or meeting? Would that go in the Commonfolk or Nation thread?
  14. YES! The Council.. er, I mean the GM has approved my rule of the Dominion. Muhahaha! Anyway, goodnight all.
  15. I guess it would be hard to tell after a while. My Leader link is on my nation, it should be the only blue link there. I was adjusting some political things before I'm finished with my nation, it's under the Ruler's and Respective Titles: and Quality of Life: parts. For population and Election stuff mostly.
  16. That's what I've been doing so far. I was supposed to do it that way right? Edit: I just finished changing the Guard numbers for example.
  17. True, I should adjust my population a bit even if I'm a recently founded nation. I'm not planning to be a major military player in the game however, just an economic and political one if I can manage it. I like the idea of the Council having an active(if minor) role in my nation though, I think I'll use it now and then; you're welcome to use them for events. What else am I missing in my Nation Info? I thought I covered everything(excluding population).
  18. Not yet, I decided to redesign my government after talking about it with Shadow. Before anything else was discussed he switched Modhood to you. As such I believe that you get to decide if my nation is submitted now. I had originally planned to have a Council of 6 ponies ruling my nation, but that would require a lot of character management/jumping. lol Also where is this map you mentioned?
  19. If it helps I can always make a map on CC3(map making program) with a world based around Equestria. I would recommend having a co-GM and perhaps make this RP more focused on Diplomacy/Development of the Nations with random events(and an occassional war thrown in) to make it interesting. If that's still to much you can always downsize to a single nation far away from Equestria and have us all run political factions. Just some ideas, being a GM/DM is time-consuming and frustrating if you don't know the players beforehand. Would it help if one of us switched to being a canon nation like Equestria or the Changeling Empire(I assume it's an empire.)?
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