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I just want to know where I can watch both episodes fully in English. It's not on YouTube, Dailymotion or Kisscartoon so does anyone have a link to it please?

Most of them seem to be Western, but here's my idea:
 

Twilight Sparkle - Irish American

Pinkie Pie - A planet far away from Equestria

Rainbow Dash - New York or New Jersey

Fluttershy - European-American background

Applejack - Southern U.S.A.

Rarity - English

Twilight Sparkle - Atheist or Catholic

Pinkie Pie - Catholic

Rainbow Dash - Atheist, Catholic or Jewish

Fluttershy - Atheist, Catholic or Protestant

Applejack - Baptist

Rarity - Protestant or Jewish

Spike - Whatever Twilight is

Starlight Glimmer - Atheist, maybe Catholic background

They all have Western accents, so I don't see them delving into more Eastern religions.

I think they're all Democrats.

I don't think she's a princess and I don't want the show to confirm her to be. Equestria is supposed to be a land of equality and happiness, so suddenly throwing in automatic titles, which are commonly associated with a system of superiority, would feel out of place.

The show has shown that Equestria has a democratic leadership. The only reason they use royal titles is because you can't have characters like "President Celestia" or "Senator Twilight Sparkle". The royal titles are merely for fantasy elements. I know the merchandising and some of the earlier episodes would say otherwise, but for the most part Equestria is a republic.

Now in a recent episode "Once Upon A Zeppelin" one background pony drops the P-word referring to Flurry Heart, but this could easily be a confused pony. No other characters have called Flurry Heart a royal title. So in my opinion she is not a princess. There is little evidence and in the show's moral it doesn't stand right.

And as for Blueblood, he could easily be something along the lines of a leader of a place in Equestria. Not every political figure must be a descendant of Celestia.

7 hours ago, AlexanderThrond said:

 

Maybe they could even just overhear people chatting positively about the book rather than be outright praised/thanked for it. That seems somewhat more realistic for a depiction of online fandom. 

That's actually an even better idea! I was thinking about that possibility.

59 minutes ago, Unlikeable Pony said:

Honestly, I just found the episode boring myself. I Do think its a bit meanspirited, but that's not really the big issue for me, as I can laugh at alot of the jokes in it like "Fluttershy learns the same lesson everytime!". Its more that I just found it to drag on without a whole lot to reccomend it except "INSIDE JOKE, INSIDE JOKE, INSIDE JOKE", and not even really good inside jokes (like in stranger than fan fiction). It just felt like a less inspired version of Slice of life.
the only part I really found kind of bad was that the end didn't really seem to have much of a moral besides "forget the adult fans, its the little girl fans who get things", which I think is a major cop out, and sends the message of "REAL FANS DON'T COMPLAIN!" which is a S****Y argument that I've never agreed with.

 

 

Its about a 6/10 for me, the only thing I truly loved in it was Rarity. Good LORD rarity was great in this episode; every single scene with her was perfect, and this episode just makes me want to see more of her-- her trying to measure Fluttershy and fluttershy's angry response was by far the best part of the episode.

I agree with you on a very weakly contributed moral. Here's how personally I think the episode should have went:

Twilight and her friends decide to publish their Friendship Journal. However after publishing the book, each member of the Mane 6 is confronted with a specific pony criticizing and being picky towards them, and each of them try to deal with these ponies, leading to some comedic scenes. Soon, all 6 of these rabid ponies protest outside Twilight's Castle, and the Mane 6 sing their song. However the ponies keep protesting. Twilight and her friends give up on trying to change their mind, but they go into central Ponyville where they find the rest of the town thanking them for the lessons in the book. The Mane 6 then realise that they don't need to pay attention to those 6 other ponies, because they should focus on those who do appreciate them.

I know the moral came out very similarly in my version, but personally this would have gone down better and ended on a more positive note.

1 minute ago, Steve Piranha said:

So, it's not the fact that the episode was a backlash at the "real fans" that upset you, but it is exclusively because they've made virtually everypony in-show a bunch of douches for it ?

Exactly. I didn't enjoy the episode because I thought it was mean-spirited and hard to watch. That's what I'm trying to say in the simplest of terms.

46 minutes ago, silvermoon15000 said:

*ahem* *Looks through EQD and the forums and every other brony site*

These statistics show that at least 3/4 of the fandom are picky and abusive towarss the creators...of course this 3/4 only beats the half by 2 or 3 people but still there are more negatives than positives towards the creators. The only reason the creators keep going with the show is because of the positive feedback they get, I believe that most of the writers that had quit and new writers were hired because some of the old writers couldn't take any more negative feedback...if the negatives start to over power the positives we may never see celebrity appearances again and we may lose John De Lancie (stretching it) at some point. You are one of those negative and abusive ponies sir...to a point

Evidence:

Hated episode because it represented the negatives of the fandom and probably yourself.

Tries to blame Larson (one of the original writers) for an episode he didn't write.

I have made my point I refuse to argue so keep on ranting.

First off, I didn't pin any blame on Larson. Some people on this thread did, but I made no comment on it.

Second, please do not label me as a negative and abusive fan of the show. This is the only episode I've been fully negative towards, most other episodes I have loved. I am not "abusive towards the writers" for disliking one episode.

I will come back to this thread every single time. Every user on this forum can come and try to debunk my opinion as "ironic and sensitive" but I will reply to every single one of those people just to make my opinion clear.

1 hour ago, Steve Piranha said:

Well, the writers are always in a Squidward Torture Porn, that's the point  

You don't need to repeat the inner commentary in the episode, I get it. Writers do have to deal with angry bronies nitpicking, and expressing this into an episode is fine. The problem, as I have mentioned dozens of times earlier, is that I simply felt it to be a harsh episode. Some people have pointed fingers at me saying "you hating the episode is exactly what the moral was about, that means your a hypocrite". No, me not liking an episode doesn't make me a nasty brony that only watches the show to complain about it. In my original post on this thread I actually pointed out some good things in the episode, but me stating the things I didn't enjoy in the episode doesn't mean the writers hate me.

10 hours ago, Steve Piranha said:

Well, the thing is, this is how stuff goes down in real life for them. No matter how much dialogue you make, how much you explain the meaning of something, how such thing is not how they think by using logic, etc; the rabid fans will KEEP being rabid fans. You may be disgusted on how those ponies acted, but perhaps you should be used to reflect on the real life rabid fans those ponies represented. I think it was a great representation of that, as being a brony since late 2012, I've seen my share of shit 

I'm fully aware of the rabid side of the Brony community. As I continuously have to point out, I just simply didn't enjoy the episode. It felt like the MLP equivalent of Squidward Torture Porn.

3 hours ago, KH7672 said:

Okay I'll consider that mindset. I'm a seven year old fan with the only stipulation is I've seen all the episodes. I know nothing of the fandom, I just watch this show for the characters I love.

So now I'm watching my favorite characters be bothered and tormented by the action of just putting themselves out there in book form for these ponies. Oh gosh if my characters get this kind of treatment would the same thing happen to me if I myself out there? Is there something wrong with me that it's so easy to be mean to me? Wait what's this? A song about how having flaws doesn't make me a bad person it's just those people not seeing me for me. Okay I feel confident about myself now to put myself out there agaon but what about those critics? How are my favorite characters going to deal with them? Wait there's nothing I can do? But, huh, hey they found some ponies that do like them and their book. Yeah who cares about those angry ponies my favorite characters are happy because at least somepony understands. I guess as long as some one likes who I am and what I do, I shouldn't let those kind of people bother me.

Tldr: "Who cares, my mom still likes me!" 

I actually think you explained the message far better than the episode did. Kudos to you 

As I've stated above, the message is not a bad one. But the way it was overall executed, for me, felt mean-spirited and almost unwatchable in some moments.

2 hours ago, A.V. said:

 

That just makes it worse -- because that's exactly what all those Ponies did.

 

I don't give a s*** what they were supposed to be a commentary on; the characters themselves kept being borderline-psychos and stalkers (LOL, look at them ruin Rarity's life, gang up on a prone Fluttershy, trespass on Sweet Apple Acres, riot on the property of one of the Princesses (Seriously, no Guards?), etc.! ).

 

At best, IMO, the episode barely managed to squeeze out a 3/5 -- the Mane 7 and that pair of fillies were still completely likable.

 

P.S.: Before someone accuses me of having no sense of humor, meta, etc., I did enjoy Slice Of Life and Stranger Than Fan Fiction quite a lot.

I agree with you 100%.

I'm glad you brought that up so I didn't have to. Although no one here has said it yet, I'm sure that soon people will point out to me "uh, if you don't like this episode's meta humor, that must meaning you hated Slice Of Life and Stranger Than FanFiction, right?". That is not true for me.

Those 2 episodes are some of my personal favorites of the series, and that's mainly because of their meta humor. The difference between those two and Fame & Misfortune is a pure tone difference. Slice Of Life and Stranger Than FanFiction have an enjoyable tone and clear messages: Slice Of Life's message was that everyone has their own life with their own stories, and Stranger Than FanFiction's message is that people can still be friends if they don't like the same things. And they managed to combine the messages with clever humor and enjoyable characters. They had the style that made me fall in love with the series in the first place.

Fame & Misfortune's message is debatable, but for me it felt like "Everyone's an asshole but you won't notice until you become popular, and they will soon act cruel towards you and there's nothing you can do about it". They also shove in a nobody's perfect message in the end that felt out of nowhere. And as I've stated several times before, the other ponies aren't just people who need a friendship lesson, they're unforgivable sociopaths. There's no transition, sympathy or actual heart in the episode. Take the entire message out and it's just 20 minutes of Mane 6 abuse.

I can't even imagine what younger children thought of the message, they were probably so confused by it. I'm sorry but I can't wrap my head around the message because it's not clear, it's just muddled up morals that combine into a nightmare of an episode. It has a negative tone and feels like a warped version of Equestria where everyone is out to basically kill Rarity and take over Sweet Apple Acres. Also, even though I can admit a few of the meta jokes were funny, many other jokes felt lazy and even cringeworthy.

1 hour ago, Hierok said:

But that is exactly what the fandom is. I don't know if you noticed, but many people are like the ponies there and in an episode that is made to mock the fandom can't have a few jokes, but need to make something clear to us. 

Yes, but in this episode it felt as if the writers channelled the negative side of the Brony community to basically every pony besides the Mane 6. Instead of focusing on a few specific characters and working around that, they go all out and portray everyone in Ponyville as a complete prick. The only ponies who aren't like this are those 2 fillies and the Apple Family. Besides that virtually everyone is just blindly mad about the Mane 6. For me there's no development or transition, everyone is just suddenly bitchy towards the Mane 6. At first I was enjoying the episode, but it slowly went downhill for me. By the time I got to the scene where Fluttershy was publicly abused by those ponies I could hardly watch it, it felt so mean-spirited, and the fact that there wasn't even a resolution ruined it for me.

I'm not saying that a show like MLP can have a challenging message, but personally, it was executed terribly. It wasn't like watching an episode of MLP but rather watching a writer's pet project to get there anger towards specific bronies out. If you enjoyed the episode more power to you, but I just didn't.

8 minutes ago, Barik the Luigineer said:

So, you don't see that them being so mean is supposed to be a joke about the fandom being EXCEPTIONALLY PICKY? What?

But your not fully getting my POV of the episode. Personally, making characters overly hypocritical about things to reference the fandom is funny, but only if limited to a few jokes. Here, the entire episode is just scenes of ponies acting rudely towards the Mane 6, and not just picky, but rather borderline abusive. This kind of episode could work in a cynically comedic show like Bojack Horseman, but not in MLP. And even if it could work in MLP, it just felt really hard to watch. In my eyes, I also thought they somewhat warped the message into saying "were against negative criticism, so if you don't like the episode it means that YOUR picky and hyperbolic, that's the irony".

If you enjoyed it then that's good, but I just thought it was a scattershot attempt to make a dark joke that doesn't work for the type of episode it was trying to be. To give you an example, for me it's kind of like "Putting Your Hoof Down", where it's very mean-spirited. But I feel even that episode had a clear moral, be assertive but don't go too far. Here the message was unclear and unjustified for me.

3 minutes ago, ggg-2 said:

I agree with this. Not only do the Mane 6 fail at fixing their problem, they don't even CARE they failed at fixing it. I expected better from you, Larson.

Also, even though I've been defending the Mane 6 a lot here, they're not off the hook with this case. Think about it: all of Ponyville and even ponies from all over Equestria are gathered outside of the castle violently arguing. Twilight's response? "Oh just let them argue". 

Twilight has people fighting outside her castle and she doesn't want to resolve it. THE PRINCESS OF FRIENDSHIP LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

I wonder what that riot outside grew into. What if someone got seriously injured in that massive fight? What if a little foal was killed? What if Ponyville is set aflame in anger? Doesn't really matter, as long as we have our special friendship everything's fine. Also the main moral is totally skewed, as in the next episode everything will go back to normal.

Personally, without a doubt one of the worst episodes of the series with sickening characters and actions that is covered up by a warped message. I see a lot of people saying that "the whole episode's message is around the writers getting attacked by bronies, so your opinion is contradicting it". This is basically saying that if you don't like it, it means you should watch the episode over and over until you respect it. That's like if I made a terrible movie about a director who is abused by critics and kills himself, and the message is don't hate things or else you will upset the creators.

MY REVIEW:

I know that everyone loves this episode, but I'm sorry: I honestly despised it. My main problem is that everyone besides the Mane 7 is a complete asshole. The other ponies don't just act a little jerky, they just flat-out insult, berate and abuse the Mane 6. Seriously, a group of ponies openly attack Fluttershy, but these ponies don't deserve my sympathy. Why? Because they don't have it. There's no personality in them besides "act rude towards Mane 6". They don't even show minor characters act like this and show a character development from kind to arguing, they're all brand new background ponies.

Another problem is a huge consistency error. In the episode the Mane 6 publish their Friendship Journal, but at first everyone doesn't care about the lessons but rather about every pony treating the Mane 6 like celebrities, but then noticing flaws and attacking the Mane 6. Here's my plot-hole: The Mane 6 have been celebrities since the 2nd episode of the series! They've defeated tons of monsters and villains, helped Princess Celestia and several other ponies. They are virtually politicians but with more normal lives. If Equestria was the USA then the Mane 6 would be the Cabinet Members of the Twilight Administration. In this episode, they act like the Mane 6 were invisible until the book was published. Not just ponies from faraway places, but NORMAL EVERYDAY Ponyville citizens act like they've never met any of them.

There are a few things that I enjoyed, like the song they played near the end, the few little pokes at the Brony community, and the message, to be fair is very well-thought out. But the message is also a double-edge sword. While it is a good message about not letting fads or popularity get in the way of your life and friendships, but this could have been made much more enjoyable and funny, but instead the main point of the episode is how unlikeable everyone else acts. they don't even learn their lesson! The episode just ends with all of Ponyville just arguing over how "weak and pathetic" the Mane 6 are. Dear writers: Where is the goddamn resolution? Nowhere, you just forgot.

I personally hated this episode, it was incredibly mean-spirited and disgustingly cruel towards the Mane 6. All the other ponies in this episode can go burn in Hell, utter pricks.

[Sorry if this review was ridiculously swear-filled and angry, I just had to get my anger out]

I have a feeling that after Season 6, it will get one more season that will end before the movie's release. Then the movie can end the show once and for all.

They are hiring people now specifically for EqG, so this may be legit since that alone confirms new EqG content.

Possibly. One of them said that there would be 10 shorts and if they were popular they would make more.

A series of shorts? But wouldn't those be normal for Equestria Girls since we get to see some of them before the movie comes out?

Well this is apparently a separate series of shorts. All of the animatics I saw had nothing to do with Legend of Everfree.

If this is true, than hopefully this means that there will finally be an EQG tv series.

They said Hasbro was thinking about it if the short series was popular.

Agreed. The world & lore of EqG is ripe for some development as there is only so much you can do with the movies that we have got so far. Pending all of this is true it would be a welcome addition in my eyes.

I would rather not tell you the plots of the animatics, but I will tell you that they brought some things from the show into them.

So as you recently know, Hasbro acquired Boulder Media, and Irish animation company. Well today I got to visit the studio for a private tour (I live in Ireland). Most of the things they showed me were secret and I won't tell, but I actually saw quite a few Equestria Girls animatics.

Initially, I thought it had something to do with Legend of Everfree, but soon found out they were an upcoming series of shorts! So maybe this will be a new form of "Equestria Academy". All I can say is stay tuned, Equestria Girls fans!

P.S. I don't know the release date, but it should come out in the next couple years.

I have come to ask a few questions about the film, and would like to hear your opinions.

1. First off, the My Little Pony Movie has been continuously been advertised as "feature-length". But what does this mean? The Equestria Girls had similar advertising, but they're all only 70 mins. So what will this mean for the film? My best guess is it probably won't be 70 mins. But the actual  running time itself. Will it be under the "1hr 30min" mark? Or could it possibly go past 100 mins?

2. Second, I was wondering if the film could possibly get a 3D release. It's an odd question, seeing as the show and most likely the movie are 2D Flash animation, though you never know.

3. Next, what rating do you think it'll have? It probably will have a G Rating, though you never know if it ever wants to take a drastic tone from the series and be darker, it could always get a PG. It is possible.

4. And finally, I want to know your opinion on the reception of the film. Will it be a Box Office Success? Will the Critics like it? What Tomatometer score will it have? What about the Brony Community?

That's all my questions. Please respond and give me your opinions!

I think you mixed up Tirek and Sombra.

Looking back at this theory (even though it's only been a few days since I posted it), it is pretty far-fetched. However I want to make one more:

THE DAZZLINGS = DONALD TRUMP

Do I have to explain?

Also, in the Director's Commentary for EG:RR, one of the commentators actually says "Holy Crap". And this was on the official DVD!

I'm pretty sure this is not official. Within the actual stories of each episode they probably are swearing, but they are replaced with exclamations since it's a kids show. 

Like I'm sure within the proper episode plots and not the TV show, characters are saying words like sh*t and f**k often. Like I'm pretty sure the Mane 6 would be calling each other names like "Penis Pie" and "Fuckershy".

And if my theory is correct and the ponies do swear within the show canon, I could just imagine Putting Your Hoof Down having more cussing than AVGN.

The story behind why this could be scares me. o_o

Not sure but it probably involves Soarin's ass.