blackstarraven

Agreed, in that being a kids show is not a good go to excuse for pacing issues. I was more just saying that pacing issues are understandable. Not excusable.

You kind of hit on the point for me right there. We have no ideal how long all this takes. But on a side note. I have insomnia and can (Do often) stay up 30+ hours before I can get to sleep.) I at one point could do this pretty well (Army) Now however, I am walking into doors. Because I'm more or less worn down, yes it took to little time in the episode. But at the same time.. It is a kids show.

Actually on a re-watch.. well a re-re-re-watch. It occurred to be that fluttershy was walking into doors and forgetting how doors worked even by the time she got to MedowBrooks home. If we can take any other points form this episode its also just that she was not thinking all that strait by the time she got there. Might have taken her less time to actually figure it out. And maybe without mistakes.

Its really a mixed bad. Until about.. Season 6 I would have stated that Pinkie was my least favorite Main Character. But they seamed to get a good handle over making her funny without it being annoying. (Or rather the other characters now acknowledge its annoying and that's the point) - So I actually do like Pinkie more.. That being said... She looks better with the strait hair....

Das Story..... I think everyone has a story. I just don't think they meander and get side tracked that much...

Agreed. We are more or less on the same page here. I would also agree and make the point that is was not lack of sleep, her disease, or the bees that knocked her out... It was all three... And ya I'm totally fine with a C+ that sounds perfectly reasonable for a grade on this episode. I liked it a bit more then that. But nothing above solid B or even B- Its not pony shakespear..... Flankspear? Ya we are going with that... But its solid. Definitely not the best but I know way worse episodes. (From a show that really its bad episodes are not really all that bad) Ya this is kind of my point put into a much less wordy point. Maybe, maybe not. I totally got the message in the episode. As a person that deals with a pretty aggravating medical problem, I can totally sympathies with the message. Was it super on point? No. But it wasn't bad ether.

OK so now you have moved from a light parsing of how Corporations work to a clear "Gotcha question." -Which I'm actually fine with- To answer the question as best I can. - Hasbro to MY Knowledge. Was never purchased by a private company as a public company for the reason of skipping the SEC regulations of going public. (Which can take a while, and skips the process of IPO) So No. I don't think Hasbro has ever preformed a Reverse Merger. - Mind you.. I'm a informed stock holder. Not a expert of corporate law. I'm some one who works in a economically based job.. not a economist. - My biggest contention (getting back to the discussion at hand) That there is no way the 4chan price tag is correct is simple... I work in "the industry" for a... mouse based company. And if Hasbro payed (In house mind you) That much for this movie, they over paid by a GREAT deal. The licensing for toonboom, salary (It was in house so they didn't actually pay extra for the animation and voice actors from the show) - The (Basically four and a half episode long) Movie should have costed at the VERY most no more then a season of the show. And we actually know how much the seasons have costed (Not super exactly because we don't know what is and is not included in those figures) But the simple answer is about 5 million a season for every season past the first. (That's Canadian Dollars) With a bit of the extra expenses simply put. There is no way that what amount to 4.5 episodes of this show should cost more then 20 episodes of the flash show. Because again it was all done in house. - Disney could have made this for less then 8-9 million. I'm willing to except that they might have had to go a bit higher. Maybe 10-12 Million.. But Honestly I don't even think that high I think we are looking at LESS then 8 million. But again that's not including Merchandising buy in, advertisement, distribution and so on. With all that in there MAYBE it reaches the 4chan level. But at that point, you should not be comparing it to the box office take. - That's my point. And its all pretty well grounded and based in pretty solid reasoning. The only counter i have gotten so far from anyone is "4Chan Leak" Which as I have said has way more questions then answers involved. Hasbro has stated they are very happy with the outcome of the movie. (Because lets face is, they never really thought that GEN 4 would be there most lucrative property in... more or less the companies history) It accounts for over 1/4th there company income at this point. And while some parts of it (Looking at you Eqestria girls) toy sales have not done so well. The show proper has actually seen a up tick in toy sales. - I would actually have a discussion about the concept of Hasbro looking at other ways to produce the show/movie after they end the show. (Because one thing you learn from pop culture in the age of the internet... Fandoms this size, never actually end...)

Maybe. But she also did get knocked out for three days. She might not have made that mistake. (Or maybe have recovered quicker) If she had taken better care of herself. I would agree that there are / could be better ways to explain that lesson however.

No... This is just wrong. Pretty much all Gators are born as tiny version of there adult selves. All there teeth already in place. Actually gators and crocs as a rule can regrow there teeth...

I'll be honest. I'm pretty unconvinced about a G5 in general. I'm more convinced it will be a G4.5 I'm not totally convinced there not going to do both to be honest. You really tend to no kill your companies biggest cash cow. While its still making Cash.

I'll be honest. I'm not really sold or convinced on the whole leak thing.

Well a few answers. Friends Forever #26 as some one else pointed out did this pretty well... But... - #1: No one REALLY cares. I mean to be honest the show creators kind of poke fun at and acknowledge fanfics from time to time, but they don't care. #2: He was just a jerk, he's not a villain.. Antagonist yes... But a lot of the "Villain's" in the show really aren't. #3: I MAYBE see him getting a friendship problem episode... Like Flim and Flam, but not a out and out 'redemption' episode.

I'll be honest. Not really buying this. But for a few reasons. Its not impossible mind you. And the season 9 being the last might actually work/be correct. The reason I don't think its all right is simple. #1: You don't end what is your biggest cash cow with no good reason. #2: Its very unlikely they are going to end one Generation and then Launch directly into another. They never have before and I don't think they will now. They might as some have pointed out do a Gen.4.5 or something. Another Show based in the same world with different characters. (I kind of want a Flurry Heart show to be honest) #3: Its going to be... really really hard to move past Gen 4. And that's going to be much harder if they do it right away. Simply put the only way to move past one gen of a show to another without being 100% sure its at least as good if not better. Is by giving it some time between the two Generations. - Now... If some rumors about Hasbro looking for a buyer for the company are true then all bets are off.... (I'm hoping Disney)

Actually I'm going to disagree on the point of the episode. This is not a discussion of "You should not work hard to help some one in bad trouble" its more a matter of "You should be able to operate effectively while helping someone." Not a matter of "Doctors should drop what they are doing for a nap" A matter of "Doctors should get enough sleep that they are not making mistakes.

I think we/I have addressed this many times before. The 4Chan Leak is bunk. Its a in house production, and 43.2 million would be a ridiculous budget for this movie. If that was the cost for the entire cost of production and distribution and advertisement? Maybe. But if that's what we are talking about then its a unfair comparison to box office. Considering that the movie will keep making money after its out of theaters with DVD's. Streaming and Merchandising.

Ya. Knew all that. But that's kind of what I was talking about. Sooner or later we will get a pretty good account of how much the movie costed.

... My Six year old Niece watching after they explain the part about Zecora turning into a tree. "Well... That got dark quick."

If its any help they have said they are going to so a Sins video. but they have also said they are going to do a CinimaWins bit also. They point out all the time you can actually do a Sins video on a good movie and vice versa.

To answer the question of why I don't think 20 million is a good ideal for a budget is simple. #1: It was done in house... Thus the animation costs are basically only slightly over what 4.5 episodes would cost. #2: Its not a CGI movie. #3: Because, the people who we have actually listened to that should know how much the movie costs say that the budget should be no more then 5-8 million. It would be like arguing with a doctor because a plumber tells you that your heart is fine. - I don't care what the plumber has to say. #4: Hasbro has not actually told us how much the movie costs. And most likely will not. but they are a publicly traded company, they MUST tell us how much they lose / wake. And there animation studio is alone on the book keeping. They will tell us when they do there stock holder meeting how much they have made or lost.

Well something that you are all missing is sales agreements. - I know this is not common knowledge but. Movie theaters don't actually get to make ANY money off of ticket sales until THREE MONTHS after release. So they actually lose money if only a few people come to see a movie. - Its still showing a lot of the theaters around me, but not in others. It really just depends on traffic. - Movies like Dunkirk and wonder woman are already out of some of the theaters around me. - The movie has done (Comparative to its cost) Very well. Some where in the x2.5 to x10 range. (Depending on if you belive 4chan or you know... people who actually know something about movie making)

Its up to 43.2 Million as of today. Again even if the (Ridiculous) 4chan leak is true (which I don't think it is) the movie is going to comfortably beat the x2.5 mark on boxoffice. It the cost that most industry insiders think is correct is right its already beat that and is pushing the x4.5 to x10 mark. Simply put, Hasbro is most likely very happy right now.

Should also be notted that its total take is up to 42+ Million Dollars. If what we know about the movie is true that is somewhere in the order of 4 to 6 times the cost of production. Even at the (Basically not possible) Figure that 4chan gives of 20 million. Its still likely going to cross the 2.5 mark. Simple put, This movie has done very well.

The simple answer is.... Not having been written at the time. The movies script was actually done before the start of season 6. So it would have really been impossible for them to have been in it. Heck that's why starlight and Trixie are just add in cameo's. If I had to bet, the movie is not going to be referenced directly in the show. If at all. If they do pick to go that rought. Its very likely that they are going to play fast and lose with the time line. That is to say move the events of the Movie around a bit. Like say its was between 6 and 7 or something...

I actually think It might be one of my favorite (Small) parts of the movie.