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Magical Mystery Cure vs Shadow Play
gingerninja666 replied to ManaMinori's topic in MLP:FiM Canon Discussion
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Her talking just to talk was charming for me for two main reasons. 1. Her voice isn't high pitched. I found it pleasant to actually listen to. 2. She's speaking so much partly because she hasn't gotten to actually speak to anyone for a really long while. So she's making up for lost time. She's trying out words she hasn't used in ages. That sets her apart from a lot of other motor mouth characters because it's kinda motivated by the plot of the episode. Edit: I've said this before, I kinda think this could've made a good Starlight episode. Because the Kirin's issue is kind of a mix between All Bottled Up and Cutie Map.
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Magical Mystery Cure vs Shadow Play
gingerninja666 replied to ManaMinori's topic in MLP:FiM Canon Discussion
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Best to Worst Ponies of Season 8?
gingerninja666 replied to FirePuppy's topic in MLP:FiM Canon Discussion
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Is Twilight still the main protagonist
gingerninja666 replied to heavens-champion's topic in MLP:FiM Canon Discussion
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Why I Hate MLP Season 8
gingerninja666 replied to PurpleWonderPower's topic in MLP:FiM Canon Discussion
They're self serving and don't care about who they hurt or inconvenience to get what they want. They goaded Granny smith into making a bet with the intent of taking the apples' home away from them. They didn't care that they were handing out shitty cider. They emotionally extorted Applejack and exploited her in order to hawk their snake oil. They didn't care that Granny Smith was about to hurt herself because of the confidence their tonic falsely instilled in her. They don't care if they hurt you, so long as they get what they want. In Viva Las Pegasus, it just so happened that the path to getting what they wanted coincided with what AJ and Shy wanted. -
Why I Hate MLP Season 8
gingerninja666 replied to PurpleWonderPower's topic in MLP:FiM Canon Discussion
I feel like you're missing the meat of my point. Which is that they weren't doing this to be good guys. There's certainly no evidence that they were doing it out of sympathy for anyone else that Gladmane hurt. All we have evidence of is that they did it because of what he did to them. And because they'd get to take over a resort. Both self serving motivations. -
Why I Hate MLP Season 8
gingerninja666 replied to PurpleWonderPower's topic in MLP:FiM Canon Discussion
They chose to help because it would hurt Gladmane and ruin him. They get satisfaction out of screwing over the person who screwed them. The person who played them for fools, basically. Not to mention the fact that they'd just learned that they'd able to take over the resort if they got rid of Gladmane, which is what they did. -
Why I Hate MLP Season 8
gingerninja666 replied to PurpleWonderPower's topic in MLP:FiM Canon Discussion
That's one of the things that CAN make it justice. But another factor is the motive of the person doing it. Someone netting out justice isn't just acting out of self-interest. They're doing it because they think it's morally the correct thing to do. The flim flams do not. That's my main point. Quibbling over definitions aside, the flim flams were acting out of self interest, and resumed their scheming ways as soon as Gladmane was gone. So them assisting the mane cast isn't a sign that they've become better people by itself. -
Why I Hate MLP Season 8
gingerninja666 replied to PurpleWonderPower's topic in MLP:FiM Canon Discussion
Actually, revenge is defined as " the action of hurting or harming someone in return for an injury or wrong suffered at their hands." Which is what the Flim Flams were doing. But what I'm getting at is the motive behind what they were doing. We see no real evidence that they helped out AJ and Shy because it was "the right" thing to do. Their only stated motive was screwing over Gladmane because he screwed over them.That's a motive rooted only in self-interest. -
Why I Hate MLP Season 8
gingerninja666 replied to PurpleWonderPower's topic in MLP:FiM Canon Discussion
It is justice, but it wasn't justice to them. We see no real evidence that they they were being altruistic. That they were doing this out of the goodness of their hearts. Gladmane screwed them over and they wanted to get payback. As soon as they accomplished this, they went right back to their old ways. -
Why I Hate MLP Season 8
gingerninja666 replied to PurpleWonderPower's topic in MLP:FiM Canon Discussion
No sense of vengeance or holding grudges? Flim and Flam only helped AJ and Shy in Viva las Pegasus to get revenge on Gladmane. That's why it wasn't a face turn in my opinion. They helped out to get revenge and then as soon as Gladmane was gone they went right back to scamming people while AJ yelled at them. Gladmane's plan to deal with them was to make each one hold a grudge against the other. -
Why I Hate MLP Season 8
gingerninja666 replied to PurpleWonderPower's topic in MLP:FiM Canon Discussion
Other than the very end of the episode, where the situation brought out Lightning's worst traits, I thought Lightning came off very well in Washouts. She was just getting on with her own life. She wasn't out for revenge or anything. She didn't have an evil plan. She offered a spot to Dash in what I can only assume was completely good faith. She just didn't become a full on ally at the end. And with Flim and Flam, while I agree with your points on their vocabulary, them being villains I thought was interesting because it's a dynamic we haven't seen before. An antagonist who helps the good guys but then remains bad at the end. Enemy Mine is a trope the show has never really done before. -
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S08:E21 - A Rockhoof and a Hard Place
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Why I Hate MLP Season 8
gingerninja666 replied to PurpleWonderPower's topic in MLP:FiM Canon Discussion
She did correct them. They didn't listen. Twilight assumed they weren't racist. So she didn't think she needed to elaborate beyond that. Like, the episode doesn't really treat Neighsay's school related concerns as wrong. The cast ARE bad teachers under the EEA styles. That's why Twilight dropped it. It wasn't a good fit for her school. Neighsay tries to interject beyond that though. He tries to say that changing the rules won't work BECAUSE they're not ponies. -
Why I Hate MLP Season 8
gingerninja666 replied to PurpleWonderPower's topic in MLP:FiM Canon Discussion
But the EEA WANTED Twi to teach friendship in a classroom. In an even drier way. So the criticism of the school being dumb isn't really solved regardless of who's in charge, but at least Twilight wanted the unique perspectives of her friends to teach the studentsin a more practical way. Neighsay and the EEA council liked the idea of the school, but wanted to co-opt it for their own purposes. That being to teach ponies how to defend themselves. From the very beginning they missed the point of everything Twi wanted to do. Including teaching other races. Something the EEA wouldn't allow. You can't put Twi on blast for her flaws while ignoring the flaws of the EEA. -
Why I Hate MLP Season 8
gingerninja666 replied to PurpleWonderPower's topic in MLP:FiM Canon Discussion
And then she stopped following their guidelines when she realized it was incompatible. Really, Twilight only went to them because she was under the impression that she HAD to go to them. And Neighsay himself took massive issue with Twilight choosing to forsake the EEA. When are they used as a scapegoat? Twilight never really complains about Neighsay or the EEA. She even insisted to the CMC in MArks that they need to go to Cheerilee's school, not hers. So she understands the value in the EEA's methods. -
Why I Hate MLP Season 8
gingerninja666 replied to PurpleWonderPower's topic in MLP:FiM Canon Discussion
The EEA way worked fine because they weren't teaching friendship. A concept Twilight described as very unique and requiring a unique staff and manner of teaching. I feel like people ignore that whole part of the episode. They assume the EEA is right because it is old. Well, we thought the world was flat for millenia until we didn't anymore. Just because the EEA is old doesn't mean they're always going to know the right course of action.