Starlight Nova

but the point still falls short as she isnt on american cant apply age of consent law of america to a foreign citizen who isnt in america or on american soil, as the crime would of been committed over the internet

well first off lets see, its private messages not ment to be posted on social media

U.S. citizens are subject to the laws of foreign countries. Furthermore, some laws are prosecutable in the United States regardless of local law. Under the Prosecutorial Remedies and Other Tools to End the Exploitation of Children Today Act of 2003 (PROTECT Act), it is a crime, prosecutable in the United States, for a U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident to engage in illicit sexual conduct in a foreign country with a person under the age of 18, whether or not the U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident intended to engage in such illicit sexual conduct prior to going abroad. Under the Protection of Children from Sexual Predators Act of 1998, it is a crime to use the mail or any facility or means of interstate or foreign commerce to transmit information about a minor under the age of 16 with the intent to entice, encourage, offer, or solicit any person to engage in any criminal sexual activity, among other things, the production of child pornography. For additional information on federal laws related to crimes against minors overseas, please see the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ)’s Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section. If you want to report a crime, please contact the FBI or see numbers provided by DOJ here.

however that law would apply to an american i stated u cant apply it to a non american who isnt on american soil or is a citizen of america. u didnt invalidate anything of what i said. u should read that law over carefully that u posted it clearly states at the top for U.S. Citizens

for that skype call that josh recorded since it included a person from the state of illinois and would be used in a court of law in the state of illinois the defense can inturn apply the state of illinois two-party consent law which requires all parties to a conversation to have given consent before any lawful recording can take place. this skype call was recorded illegally just because josh resides in texas does not mean the state of texas wiretapping law will be applied to the evidence when its submitted to the court, when recording anyconversation it is best to get everyones consent before beginning any recording as to avoid the potential of commiting a illegal act . well first off it may have been recorded in another state however since it included persons from various states and would be used as evidence in the state of illinois without toon's consent to being recorded it is illegal. regardless of being done so over the internet it still falls on all those that were in the conversation. Federal law may apply when the conversation is between parties who are in different states, although it is unsettled whether a court will hold in a given case that federal law “pre-empts” state law. In Duncan, the newspaper argued that the federal law should pre-empt the state statutes, because the telephone call crossed state lines, placing it under federal jurisdiction. However, in that case, the court did not address the pre-emption issue. Moreover, as noted above, either state may choose to enforce its own laws. For example, a reporter located in the District of Columbia who records a telephone conversation without the consent of a party located in Maryland would not violate District of Columbia law, but could be liable under Maryland law. A court located in the District of Columbia may apply Maryland law, depending on its “conflict of laws” rules. Therefore, an aggrieved party may choose to file suit in either jurisdiction, depending on which law is more favorable to the party’s claim. In one case, a New York trial court was asked to apply the Pennsylvania wiretap law — which requires consent of all parties — to a call placed by a prostitute in Pennsylvania to a man in New York. Unlike the Pennsylvania wiretap statute, the New York and federal statutes require the consent of only one party. The call was recorded with the woman’s consent by reporters for The Globe, a national tabloid newspaper. The court ruled that the law of the state where the injury occurred, New York, should apply. (Krauss v. Globe International) the call over skype was recorded illegally under illinois state law for wiretapping, as all parties did not consent to being recorded. and i'm also going to assume not everyone in the call was from the state of texas.

oh u mean their heavily edited censored and sections missing chat logs, ones where over 300 days worth of texts are missing from the screenshots,

did toon travel to the philippines and physically interacted with sally in any way. prove that and i'll retract my defense of him

its funny tho toon is innocent the evidence has been edited censored and even doctored (think i spelt that last one wrong) , sections are missing and the information that was leaked is likely editted as well to paint a 1 sided story, but the law is straightforward and completely rock solid, when legal professionals and those charged with investigating crimes tell people what he did wasnt illegal they say he was likely wrong or new to the job or doesnt understand the legal system or laws or even he is very inexperienced. but the truth is often hard to swallow and even harder when a community defamed an innocent person who committed only and inappropriate act rather then a criminal one. the damage done to toon and the many many false accusations against him, specifically done by his own friends or former friends had far reaching consequences and they may pay legal charges against them by toon for defamation, his former friends and those who associate with them no only destroyed toon's livelihood and life but also spreaded false accusations and rumors that aided in destroying this person socially and mentally. i will not be surprised if toon takes anyone in the community to court for these damages against him.

i gotta reinstall that sometime i miss mass murder, but with toon it would be even more fun

ur not the only one but i dream about it every night i wonder about the trade buildings in NYC and how it would look if u blew it sky high. CIA try me i am ready to CoD ur but with some satchel charges and a ripper

yes if toon had traveled to another country to sleep with a person under the age of 16 regardless of acutal age of consent of that country is lower than that or not it would of been a crime however toon was speaking or in this case typing an idea now he never got physical purchased a ticket or had a real world meetup with sally, inturn only words were exchanged and Role Playing was involved how can u take real intent from role playing and seperate them, can u say with 100% certainty that toon intended to meet her IRL, or that he fantasized thru the RP with her of a meetup, and went from there remember she consented over the internet from her country she takes full responsibility for anything she agrees to over the internet.

but its not a crime when its between 2 consenting adults, i have personally spoken with lawyers a judge and several attorneys in the state of illinois about the matter with zak kayes and sally, they have also confirmed the same thing the FBI agent stated tho inappropriate its isnt illegal.

as stated in ur post and its very specific "any person age 17 or older commits this offense by engaging in any of the following with the intent to commit sexual abuse of a child. now the child in this law would have to be american for this law to apply to toon. and here is the proof http://segasister.tumblr.com/post/173258132570/bluebreeze52-taken-from-lily-peets-tumblr-i And more bad news… Voice and I spoke with an FBI agent two months ago… they said that what he did was certainly inappropriate, but nothing illegal. So yes, this is definitely an issue with the law. Josh had NOTHING to do with that. this shows irrefutable that toon did not commit a crime under american or international law. it would of been a crime had sally been american or was under the age of consent in the country she resided in.

lol if u look at my chatlogs with my friends u would see similar mannerisms, and wording tho i'm not trying to groom my friends, its just how i talk or type in this case. u cant go off how he worded things and say its classic grooming behavior, i would of treated sally the exact same way it was Role Playing, whether sexually or not, if u have never tried deep RPing and staying in character all the time when u do so u would never see these chatlogs differently. from someone who has RP'd and ERP'd over the many years with people of probably all ages, i have read and seen more disturbing things on youtube then i did from these chatlogs which mind u are heavily edited and sections completely missing (look at the top and bottom of each screenshot carefully and u should notice the date differences and segments that dont match up with the next screenshot). u stated there is an obvious maturity gap, where is it i dont see an maturity gap when reading an ERP story in these chatlogs, i can easily tell sally is no stranger to RPing on the internet, even sexually, i would even bet this wasnt her first time, now toon is 24 sally is 14, toon is american age of consent is 17 for the state of illinois, sally is filipino age of consent is 12 for the republic of the philippines, both are consenting adults in their respective countries they resided in during these chatlogs. whether there is a maturity gap the law of both countries is infact how any crime would be determinded, u cant apply american age of consent laws to a non american who is not on american soil or is in anyway an american citizen, inturn if this goes to court the girl who identifies in every screenshot as a child not an adult she inturn is in breach of the republic of the philippines child pornography distribution law. http://www.lawphil.net/statutes/repacts/ra2009/ra_9775_2009.html Section 3 A states ((a) "Child" refers to a person below eighteen (18) years of age or over, but is unable to fully take care of himself/herself from abuse, neglect, cruelty, exploitation or discrimination because of a physical or mental disability or condition. For the purpose of this Act, a child shall also refer to: (1) a person regardless of age who is presented, depicted or portrayed as a child as defined herein; and (2) computer-generated, digitally or manually crafted images or graphics of a person who is represented or who is made to appear to be a child as defined herein.) sadly by depicting this 14 year old girl as a child clearly makes her in violation of child pornography laws in the philippines, Section 3 B states ((b) "Child pornography" refers to any representation, whether visual, audio, or written combination thereof, by electronic, mechanical, digital, optical, magnetic or any other means, of child engaged or involved in real or simulated explicit sexual activities.) Section 4. Unlawful or Prohibited Acts. - It shall be unlawful for any person: (b) To produce, direct, manufacture or create any form of child pornography; Section 6. Who May File a Complaint. - Complaints on cases of any form of child pornography and other offenses punishable under this Act may be filed by the following: (a) Offended party; (b) Parents or guardians; (c) Ascendant or collateral relative within the third degree of consanguinity; (d) Officer, social worker or representative of a licensed child-caring institution; (e) Officer or social worker of the Department of Social Welfare and Development (DSWD); (f) Local social welfare development officer; (g) Barangay chairman; (h) Any law enforcement officer; (i) At least three (3) concerned responsible citizens residing in the place where the violation occurred; or (j) Any person who has personal knowledge of the circumstances of the commission of any offense under this Act. Section 8. Jurisdiction. - Jurisdiction over cases for the violation of this Act shall be vested in the Family Court which has territorial jurisdiction over the place where the offense or any of its essential elements was committed pursuant to Republic Act No. 8369, otherwise known as "Family Courts Act of 1997". now as for the recorded skype call, https://www.glasgowolsson.com/cookcountycriminalattorneys/2017/08/13/recording-private-conversations-illinois (illinois two party consent law - also covers any recording type not just use of easdropping equipment covers recording software as well) for false accusations against toon https://www.puryearlaw.com/2011/01/23/defamation-libel-slander-in-illinois/ (defamation law of illinois) http://kellywarnerlaw.com/us-defamation-laws/ (defamation laws of the united states) now many of u see toon as this monster this pedo who was in a relationship with a 14 year old, toon is 24 at the time he is american their age of consent is 17 for the state of illinois. sally is 14 at the time she is filipino her countries age of consent is 12 for the republic of the philippines, under this information both are consenting adults. many call toon a pedo, but what of other annlyists in the community i direct u to goldenfox and keyframe. youtube.com/watch?v=YqSR84BpcKQ this video was posted september 12th 2015, current ages of goldenfox is 29 keyframe is 20 there is a 9 year gap, this video is the 1 year anniversary of them dating. so 3 years ago give or take was the anniversary so 4 years ago they started dating. which would put keyframe at 16 years old and goldenfox at 25, not much of a difference then toon at 24 and sally at 14, and yet we condemned toon for what he did and yet goldenfox doesnt suffer the same fate golden is no different actually he is much worse then toon see golden had physical contact with a minor, intimate relationship with a minor on american soil, they technically lived together. if ur going to condemn toon for being into someone who isnt mentally mature enough or is a minor then goldenfox should inturn burn beside him for committing the same crime.

well thats the thing most here dont look at toon is american living in the US, the girl is filipino living in the republic of the philippines their age of consent is 12 she is 14, she made her own decision to erp with toon, she gave knowing consent, she is over the age of consent for the country she is not only a citizen of but also resides in, they cant apply american law and standards to her because she isnt on american soil, a citizen of the USA or attempted to block toon over the year of erping with him till december of 2017 did she block him, and that is where it would of ended but she went further and with her actions turned it into a spectacle all over social media, and were still debating it after 5 months after the leak. i say we drop the topic its not an illegal act sure it may seem illegal but its 2 countries 2 different set of laws and a crime committed over the internet is a legal nightmare, they arent going to do a damn thing about it, toon wont face charges hell i doubt even the police give a crap about this case probably will be collecting dust for decades. the horror of this incident is only seen from a moral standpoint not a legal one. pedophilia isnt a crime, it only becomes a crime when they act upon the urges and take physical action against their victims.