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Dusky's Smash Ultimate Tier List (Post Plant)


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I can't believe I'm doing this. I'm once again posting a tier list for a game I haven't actually played in it's current form (or in this case, at all). A LOT of perceptions of mine have changed since release looking at tournament results and also seeing more potential in some characters and less in others than I initially saw in them. I'm also changing the format slightly. I'll note that these lists are based on a combination of opinion, tournament results (as far as I know), and what I've heard from players in the pro scene (ZeRo, ESAM, the like), so this isn't in any way "objective" nor do I intend it to be. I just intend it to be an evaluation of the game's meta based on my knowledge of it.

 

Top Tier: Snake, Peach/Daisy, Pichu, Marth/Lucina, Pokemon Trainer, Inkling

High Tier: Cloud, Pikachu, Ness, Shulk, Olimar, Roy, Yoshi, Sheik, King K. Rool, Wolf, Ike, Mario, Meta Knight, Bayonetta

High Mid Tier Young Link, Isabelle, Pirahna Plant, Fox, Pit, Mewtwo, Richter/Simon, Chrom, Mega Man, Donkey Kong, Ken, Ridley, Dark Samus/Samus

Low Mid Tier: Luigi, Link, Ganondorf, Sonic, Wario, Corrin, Diddy Kong, Incineroar, Mr. Game and Watch, Dark Pit, Ryu, Lucas, Captain Falcon, Jigglypuff, ROB

Low Tier:  Zelda, Villager, Palutena, Robin, Falco, Zero Suit Samus, Ice Climbers, Pac-Man, Toon Link, Greninja, Duck Hunt, Bowser

Bottom TierMii Gunner, Lucario, Wii Fit Trainer, Bowser Jr., Kirby, Mii Swordsman, King Dedede, Mii Brawler

 

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I can't believe that my least favourite fighter (pikachu) is amazing and my main (dedede) sucks in this game, lol

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5 minutes ago, Holly Jolly Ody said:

I can't believe that my least favourite fighter (pikachu) is amazing and my main (dedede) sucks in this game, lol

Pikachu got buffed a lot... Basically he's going to be the new Melee Fox, basically a lightweight fighter that can easily chip at health pools while also dodging literally everything with his new dash. As for Dedede, he was also pretty terrible in Smash 4, though if anything since the buffing of other heavies and the introduction of K. Rool, he's only getting worse in the Smash Ultimate meta. His frame data is so bad even compared to other heavies, and he still is going to retain a lot of his issues with ending lag. 

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17 minutes ago, King Kremling said:

Pikachu got buffed a lot... Basically he's going to be the new Melee Fox, basically a lightweight fighter that can easily chip at health pools while also dodging literally everything with his new dash. As for Dedede, he was also pretty terrible in Smash 4, though if anything since the buffing of other heavies and the introduction of K. Rool, he's only getting worse in the Smash Ultimate meta. His frame data is so bad even compared to other heavies, and he still is going to retain a lot of his issues with ending lag. 

I'm pretty curious to see how Pikachu will fare out if that's the case. There always seems to be that one broken character in each Smash.

I was disappointed that Dedede sucked in Smash 4, but to know that he's even worse is pretty lame to me, lol. I'll still play as him, but I missed him back in Brawl. He wasn't broken, but he was pretty decent then + his Side B and Final Smash were stupidly fun to use. I'm probably looking into K. Rool or Snake if Dedede really does suck badly in Ultimate.

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Just now, Holly Jolly Ody said:

I'm pretty curious to see how Pikachu will fare out if that's the case. There always seems to be that one broken character in each Smash.

I was disappointed that Dedede sucked in Smash 4, but to know that he's even worse is pretty lame to me, lol. I'll still play as him, but I missed him back in Brawl. He wasn't broken, but he was pretty decent then + his Side B and Final Smash were stupidly fun to use. I'm probably looking into K. Rool or Snake if Dedede really does suck badly in Ultimate.

He's always been a pretty strong character, but honestly, he's going to be even stronger than freaking Bayonetta to be honest. Sure Bayonetta is still going to just be downright stupid, but Pikachu just has so much speed, so much damage, and an insanely good recovery, which is looking to be pretty important in Ultimate as well.

King K. Rool and Snake both sound like solid substitutes for Dedede. K. Rool might be an easier character to learn, though. I personally intend to main K. Rool, so I may be biased :P After seeing the first gameplay of him I immediately knew I found at least a secondary character. He's a heavier version of everything I wanted out of Yoshi (My Smash 4 main). Solid combo game, multitudes of options, and plenty of kill potential. Also not top tier (although I nonetheless intend to abuse Young Link from time to time).

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