Echo Narcissa

Yes, they are very hot and sexy! Extremely attractive.

To answer both of your questions yes they are<3

Finally found a few others on this topic who agrees with me.

Ah, yes... I'm going to jump at this opportunity to use some of my hardcore anayltical skills.  Be warned, this might be a bit convoluted... AND this will be a VERY long post.

 

Let me get the obvious stuff out of the way first.  All we've seen so far that is canon, and that has been limited by the show's audience rating, is honestly not much violence.  Sure, a few moments of violence have happened, and I'll let the previous posts be there to give most of those examples.

 

I think it was a surprise to most of us to see Twilight go all DBZ style with her Pony-hame-ha on Tirek.  In my eyes, this was the greatest level of violence we've seen in MLP:FIM thus far.

 

 

obligatory video related to the above:

(While it might not have been the scene [of many] most here would have used as a reference, this is just one of my favorite moments)

 

 

 

Now, with all this being said... let's talk about violence in the show that probably isn't going to be shown... Let's talk about the potential violence (as well as capabilities) of the ponies (at least, what I feel it to be), starting from least, going up the ladder.

 

Note: My list here following is ordered by potential, even though I am including capabilities in each of their descriptions.

 

Why potential? (And why not both, or why not just capability [thus the inverse]?)

 

Because I feel that this thread is [implicitly] asking for our thoughts on the hypothetical violence that the ponies have the potential to use, and thus, their capabilities are just an added trait that I am adding.

 

Again, this is just the way that I myself am viewing this thread, and thus, that is how the following list's logic will show.

 

 

I feel that Rarity has the least potential of violence as compared to the rest of the Mane 6, mostly because of her OCD towards cleanliness, and thus, she probably wouldn't want to get bloody no matter how enraged she might be.  On the other hand, I feel that her capabilities of harm surpass her potential.  She is a unicorn, and so she does have the ability to use magic to her advantage in a fight.  

 

Fluttershy's potential of violence I would place just above that of Rarity's.  While she is the most affectionate, loving, caring, etc. pony of the bunch, she don't like it when you hurt her animals.  Her capabilities, on the other hand, are a bit of a conundrum to me, as the most we've seen from her being violent is, well, not much in quantity, and [relatively] medium in quality.  I'm honestly at a loss of words when I think about this, because I just really don't know.

 

Applejack would likely be the next one up.  As a country girl, born and raised, she has shown great potential (via her strength and patience) of violence.  And, oddly enough, I think her potential-to-capability ratio is perfectly even... I think that for her, they are not only equal in ratio, but are basically just the same thing.  So, yes, I would say her capabilities would be a notch up from Fluttershy (and thus, ditto for her potential).

 

Rainbow Dash wears her emotions in plain view.  We know what she is feeling at all times.  And thus, I feel the evidence to place her where I have is plenty viable.  Her potential for violence is... bluntly obvious.  Heck, she "put'em up" when she wanted to fight Discord because he was, well, being Discord (lol).  So we know she feels like a natural fighter.  As for her capabilities of violence (and I should say now, as I should have said before, these capabilities are in terms of how much damage such [the] pony could possibly inflict)... Well, other than the obvious "Sonic Rainboom" - we also saw her kick a *apples* insanely huge adult dragon in the face.  (Figuratively speaking, of course) RD has some major balls to do something like that.

 

Ah, now we're coming up on the top 2.  ("Who are they gonna be?! Oh my gosh this is exciting!")

 

Well, I'm placing... (Oh NO he didn't!) Twilight (yes, I did) as number 2 here.  The reasons will be explained shortly.  As for what I feel about her potential and capabilites... Do I really even need to say?  I mean, y'all know darn good and well what this pony can do, and what she has done.  Let's just say, she isn't afraid to throw down in times where it is necessary.  Anyway, I feel her potential for violence is a good 3 notches above RD's... and I feel that may surprise some of you - I feel that alot of you would think RD shows greater potential and equal or lesser capability.  But, let me explain why I am placing Twilight's potential above RD's: Twilight, in my opinion, (and this is totally unrelated to the fact that she's basically the main protagonist of the show)... is different from the rest of the ponies in terms of intellect, contentiousness, sensing/judging/perceiving, and even overall thought-depth and focus.  Therefore, I feel Twilight's potential for violence surpasses the previous ponies' levels because of her mental power and energy.  Now, as for her capability of violence... I think it's sevenfold times greater than the first 3 ponies in this list, and then, probably triple, quadruple, or possibly quintuple of Rainbow Dash's.  Which, I know I know, that's saying alot, in respect to RD's Sonic Rainboom.  But let's face it guys, Tirek would have destroyed RD if, somehow, he'd not taken her magic and energy (and that is in her case, flight), and she tried to fight him.  

 

 

Some may question me here, saying that Twilight was using the power of not only herself, but of the rest of the alicorns when fighting Tirek... But I argue that this doesn't matter, because it happened, period. That, and she will continue to grow in her ability to use magic on her own, without their powers added to her. I honestly feel that in good time, she has the capability to reach the level of magic she used in that fight, and only of her own power to boot! She IS the element of Magic, so...

 

 

And here we are... the big surprise (especially coming from me - Miles)...  Eeyup, it's Pinkie Pie.  Now let me first defend myself...  In regards to her position on this list as number one, remember, this is based only on potential, not capability... (nor both at the same time)... So, she's number 1 on this list because I feel her potential for violence to be of the utmost highest and darkest level, in comparison to the other ponies.  Now, here is where it really gets convoluted, and I apologize if you find this hard to follow: I'm going to be talking about 2 things at once as best I can here, and then relate them into a third point.  First, like others have brought up - Pinkie has a dark side... a very insane, a very psychopathical dark side... Second, (though seemingly unrelated, I'm going to make it related) also like others have stated, people who are the quiet, introverted, loving and caring kind often have some of the craziest dark sides; this was mentioned about Fluttershy before.  So, I'm going to intertwine these ideas in a sort of compare/contrast way, and make a new idea.  As we all know, Pinkie Pie in her normal state is a happy-go-lucky, random and hyper pony.  Her extroversion contrasts to Fluttershy's introversion, and her loving/caring attitude compares similarly to Fluttershy's.  So, where am I going with this?  I want to make a new point, that it's not always the quiet ones who have the craziest crazy sides.  Sometimes it's the hyper ones, too.  And to me, both situations, to most people, are likely equally surprising when it happens.  To progress, Pinkie Pie's potential for violence is *apples* massive.  She takes on a whole new consciousness... and she bears no remorse in this state.  She might not even feel much pain in this state, so even matched up against the largest of opponents, she can probably get right back up again, with blood dripping from her mouth, with the biggest, most *apples* creepy smile spread across her face, because she wasn't even phased.  So, "watch out" ... she'll come and battle with more torture techniques in mind than all of the world's armed forces have combined.

 

As for her capabilities... well, you might be confused already... but she's 3 notches below Twilight.  "But isn't that a contradiction to all that stuff you just said?!"  No, it's not.  Because think about... Twilight's Pony-hame-ha (as I like to call it) would most definitely knock down Pinkie for at least a few moons.  And I'm sure, by the time she gets back up, she won't remember what happened, and thus would return to her normal state of mind... And thus all this meaning, Twilight's capabilities outmatch Pinkie's... But since Pinkie's potential of violence is much greater and darker than Twilight's, I feel that she deserves the number one spot in this list, in this thread, about hypothetical potential violence in MLP:FIM.

 

 

Thank you for reading this far, if you were able to.

 

I now conclude my rambling.

 

 

 

 

Well, that was quite a long and good enough analyze on these ponies and how violent they could possibly get on the show if the TV Y-rated stuff was taking off. I still keep in mind what a few others have said and what they will do if the two nicest ponies can do if they are pushed too far, and i also think that they can be very violent as us if they want to from other points and evidence others have made in this topic. (I kind of forgot what I was going to say there) So, I will now finish it right here, because my head hurts a little too much for me to concentrate.

Because it's violence is over the top. There are games more graphic and brutal than GoW, like the aforementioned Manhunt, Last of Us, Resident Evil (up to the fourth at least)

I'll need to see what Manhunt and Last of us is

I pick God of War, because of it's over-the-top fighting in a fantasy universe. Although sadly, the suits probably won't approve of any on-screen blood, despite The Powerpuff Girls having it.

 

Wow, they're totally pushing the envelope for what cartoons can get away with.

I agree, that doesn't make much sense that they don't put in on MLP, but allow it on Power Puff Girls.

It would be interesting if we change the usual "threat to the throne or all Equestria" to "They want to kill our foals". At the latter, I expect them to be scarily violent and probably murderous. I expect AJ and Dashie to take their usual bar fight to bar fight to the death. Pinkie and Flutty are two of the nicest persons around, but from my experience, if you push a nice person too far, they become extremely violent, so I expect they to lose control and blindly kill the threat in a bloody way, deaf to their pleas of mercy. Rarity might be more subtle in her revenge before killing them, same with Twily, but far more cruel, so, I put them in dark.

I didn't chose the GoW violence because I have a hard time taking it seriously  , but I'm talking about real violence above, Manhunt levels  -_-

Why you can take God of War seriously? That is realm violence that could possibly happen in their world or the real world.

I think there is more then enough evidence to say that the ponies COULD go full blown bloody warfare with intense powers. They reference weapons of war several times, and the three races of ponies have once fought bitter battles before they were unified under the Alicorn Empire. Now are they going to show bloody war on a rated y show? No but the potential is there..

I know, right? Thank you, those are a few of the points I was trying to make out to everyone.

Violence doesn't really exist in Equestria. We have to remember that every time that violence arrives, it is through otherworldly means or at least from beyond the borders of Equestria. The otherworldly means would be all the great villains, even Trixie. Minor things like the dragons would be from other lands but the ponies do have a tendency to at least want to defend their friends and loved ones from time to time. Equestria does have a royal guard, which means that they see the need to have a defense even though Celestia is obviously too powerful to actually need guards for her own sake. Maybe it means that she can't be bothered to police everything and there must be others to deal with minor issues. So in conclusion, the ponies are not likely to get very violent at all really with a few notable villain exceptions....again, Trixie and also, Sunset Shimmer.

I think I got a big chunk of bull crap stuck in my throat from that  Oh, no! Okay, I'm sorry, that sounded a bit rude, but in all serious the people and I who have mentioned enough proof and evidence from previous episodes are right, it is a fact that they can get really violent.

I strongly believe they are weak push-overs. You cannot expect much from ponies who worship the Magic of Friendship. The only pony who is not like this is Twilight. But , she only got violent because she was cornered and really had no choice at all.

 

Ok, they can get a bit aggressive every now and then. But, it will never go much further.

 

About the fight with the Changelings, that might have been an exception. However, with King Sombra and Discord, they were defeated not because of the ponies themselves but because of magical artifacts that the ponies used (The Crystal Heart and the Elements of Harmony respectively).

Wow, that might the biggest load of bullshit I have ever heard today

I pick God of War, because of it's over-the-top fighting in a fantasy universe. Although sadly, the suits probably won't approve of any on-screen blood, despite The Powerpuff Girls having it.

 

Wow, they're totally pushing the envelope for what cartoons can get away with.

Then vote on God of war then 

I dunno, it depends. Twilight did go super sayan in the s4 finale (although that didn't have any actual blood shed) so it really depends on the circumstances when considering their potential for violence. Are we going to consider the fact that they reside within a tv-y show? Because if so, then they have little potential for physical violence, as that is often looked down upon, and may effect Hasbro's sales.

 

 

However, out side their tv-y rating,with their ability to use magic, and the fact that Twilight did enter a dbz styled fight leads me to believe that they could have the potential for god of war esk violence if ever moved outside their TV-Y rating.

Then vote on all so cool, God of War style violence

As far as potential:

 

Twilight would kill somepony if said pony were to kill Celestia, although it would be in a moment of intense anger, and she'd probably never get over herself.

Were Pinkie Pie to kill somepony, it would be due to an accident, definitely not cupcakes style. I could imagine her injuring someone during one of her Pinkamena states and not really thinking about it until later.

The rest of the ponies? Probably not. Even if their loved ones were killed, they'd be more of the type to have to try to bring the person to justice rather than kill them.

Okay, I really think anyone who have gotten their loved ones killed in front of their eyes gonna have the desire to be violent and get revenge on that said pony or like in Fall out Equestria or New Lunar Republic VS The Solar Empire thing. The point I'm trying to get to is, each of the rumbles and/or fights are getting slightly or a little more violent each season. The creators aren't there yet, but it looks like they are trying to get there slowly.

The very first episode of MLP:FiM

Yes, but even under those circumstances there was no gory bloodshed. I could see the Mane Six, if they had to defeat an enemy permanently, maybe crushing them under something, throwing them into a pit, or blowing them up with magic, but actual guts and blood mayhem just seems out of their league.

 

As I said, beating up their enemies with physical attacks or magic is something that they seem perfectly fine with doing, but something like tearing a pony in half like Kratos would do seems out of character for them.

Well, to me, not for Pinkie because it's not that I'm making excuses, it just seems that Pinkie would maybe be one of the main ones to do that. Since to everyone, cup cakes seemed like a possibility and had them thinking and wondering, "Eh, hey, could this really happen? Is this really possible for Pinkie Pie to because due to her nature this may seem like something that would occur." So, those are just kind of my reasons and facts/evidence to support my thoughts. Either way, there will still be someone bleeding since if they beat someone up bad enough like on fight club, there will be some blood, bruises and wounds there. Not gory, but still some like that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_1yUbwm9MA&index=192&list=PLP0Bhh_30P4-bvIPKbNIANCyGLnmKj0OT

How post this in video from?

I'm just going to go with fight club violent at this point. I don't think they'd spill blood unless there were extreme circumstances. In normal situations that require violent actions, they can definitely throw up their hoofs and knock some teeth out though.

I don't know cause from the Celestia going up against Nightmare Moon like that and the damn near God of War/ Dragon Ball Z fight Twilight had with Tirek, I really think they can mess some stuff if they have to or in Pinkie Pie's case, wants to.

I have been wondering this for a while now and from seeing the street fight in the Canterlot wedding, the fight against Sombra and them completely blowing him up, Twilight blowing up a plant's head on Princess Twilight, the Celestia vs Nightmare Moon fight, and who can forget the Tirek vs Twilight fight? 

I personally want to know what you guys think because to me, I love dark stuff and I like it when the ponies gets violent because it makes them look so much more bad ass (Don't judge me) and seeing how much violent it got over the seasons, I'm pretty sure they are capable of spilling a lot of blood or do you think they are weak push overs?

Would Pegasi being water nymphs count? That's what my OC is.

Flutter ponies, perhaps? They could be like wood nymphs and live in the forest.
Also the Jersey Devil (bat wings, devil tail, bull horns, etc.)

Wait a minute, what are Flutter Ponies?

Isn't it a bit hypocritical for ponies who divine powers from altruistic concepts to slaughter people, especially when many of us aren't guilty of the deplorable attributes to which you associate humanity?

No, of course not because possibly, the only ones who would be spared are Bronies.

No no no! Noooooooooooooooooooooo!

 

No. I refuse to believe the ponies from MLP FLM now walk on the ashes of humanity. Because that implies that the ponies are either those evil Conversion Bureau scumbags or somehow humans were mutated into cartoon horses by nukes.

 

Most canon Ponies are (lawful good) paragons of 'good', not those often (chaotic evil) renegades from fan fictions like the Conversion Bureau. So, no 'killing all humans' from sweet and good ponies thank you very much.

 

In short, MLP FIm's world is not Earth.

And i also love the Conversion Bureau even though I haven't even read much of it yet, but is sounds freaking amazing. All FiM ponies killing those corrupt, dick headed, scumbag humans. Oh man, I have to get to reading it soon. 

Then the ponies became the Reapers from Mass Effect and I hate them.

They'll make the world a whole lot of a better place you know as well as I do that the world is already full stupid people, a little bit of racist, bad economy, hatred and other type of bull shit.

I guess if Fluttershy is leaving, we would have to change the title series to 'Game of Ponies' and start taking bets on who gets offed off in the next episode.

 

 

(I have never watched that series but I couldn't resist the joke, sorry.)  Fluttershy is not leaving, don't worry about it.

 

 

Off-topic:

 

 

 

Wait, you don't know what trolling or baiting is?  How long have you been on the internet for? (I'm asking a serious question, no I'm not being sarcastic)

 

 

 

Can't tell if being serious or being cheeky because the way you described trolling, in order for a person to understand trolling, they have know what fishing is, and if they don't know what fishing is, well this defeats the purpose of telling another person what a word means.

 

Anyways trolling is when a person deliberately posts something inflammatory, extraneous or makes a reply to another person that is designed to easily provoke a deliberate emotional response from others or purposely trying to cause disruption by getting others to get into useless argument. This is usually based on ill-intent of the troll poster, to cause discord and watch people fight over useless things on the internet (the Troll never had any intention to add to the discussion, just to watch others over-react or attack each other is their form of entertainment).   People who are generally sarcastic or snarky can spot these attempts right away (and or sometimes, maybe the ones who are doing it).

 

Baiting: is a form of trolling, where the person posts something that is meant to "bait" people and cause people to react in a negative emotional response (provoking) to the entertainment/delight of the troll poster.  It's called baiting when the post is blatantly obvious in trying to provoke emotional response from others rather than discussion.

 

Fishing: is when something that is eye-catching or conspicuous is posted with the deliberate attempt at trying to get as many 'views' as possible on a post, irregardless of whether or not the content of the post is true or not.   

I know very well what trolling mean I just didn't understand how she said it.

No no no! Noooooooooooooooooooooo!

 

No. I refuse to believe the ponies from MLP FLM now walk on the ashes of humanity. Because that implies that the ponies are either those evil Conversion Bureau scumbags or somehow humans were mutated into cartoon horses by nukes.

 

Most canon Ponies are (lawful good) paragons of 'good', not those often (chaotic evil) renegades from fan fictions like the Conversion Bureau. So, no 'killing all humans' from sweet and good ponies thank you very much.

 

In short, MLP FIm's world is not Earth.

The FiM ponies need to come to Earth and kill humans...

That's actually part of my theory, too!

Okey dokey lokey! The reason the ponies have "Magic", is because Celestia and Luna were secret government bioweapons. The military gave them the ability to manipulate the world around them, shoot lasers, etc. Celestia and Luna then shared their "Magic" with other entities that resembled them. They either gave them a horn, wings, or nothing.

I guess that is good.. still have something to do with science and nuclear warfare, but what ever.

It seems like that was more of a poll of 'What would you do if she was replaced?'.

 

Honestly, if they were going to kill off a main character, I'm pretty sure there would have been something hinting at a 'shocking twist' in the teaser for Season 5.  But nothing like that was there, so I doubt anything like that is going to happen.  This is especially true when you consider they just set up a new status quo with the Rainbow Powers, and Twilight finally, FINALLY officially taking her place as a full fledged Princess.  They have enough going on.  They don't need to kill off a character.

I see your point, my little brony. (Heh, see what I did there) I don't suppose they will make anymore wrong even though Twilight becoming an alicorn princess is a pretty good idea, they wouldn't make anymore bad moves.

I will be amazed and or maybe scared first, but then when I realize how cool it would be, I'd have fun with it and do whatever.

 

Easy

 

• Underdeveloped backstory
• Mary Sueish abilities
• Immortal
• Overly dark stories
• Bad color scheme

 

These are more opinions that are invalid, I've seen OC's with immortality of some kind, over dark stories and they still turned out be good OC. Sorry if the beginning was kind of mean...

nothing is wrong with making it evil I said making it evil JUST CAUSE so giving him/her no back story to why they are evil my oc is neutral so I can't say being evil is bad

as for Alicorn the Alicorn race does not exist only Alicorns in the world are gods only four are in the world

as for shipping I maybe wrong because my friend told me what it ment he said it meant taking to ponies and have it be there child if I'm wrong then I will scratch that out because I based my OC off of Snowdrop

Well, okay then... if you say so.. everyone has their opinions.

Oh, it's okay.. I was just curious because I thought you were talking about my OC or trying to say something to someone.

What is exactly wrong with making it an alicorn, shipping it, and making it evil?

the Qualifications of a bad OC

- make it an Alicorn

- ship your OC

- give it no back story

- use the Pony Generator and have the public decide your OC

- make your OC evil just cause which follows into the third one

- make them a Mary Sue

 

these are what you want to avoid

What is exactly wrong with making it an alicorn, shipping it, and making it evil?

I read it, but want to hear about what you have to say about magic and cutie marks as long as it's nothing science related like in that episode when Princess Bubblegum tried to prove magic is nothing, but science.

@@Echo Narcissa,

 

It was a response to the title; 'what qualifies as a bad oc' and 'if there are bad ocs'.

 

Sorry if that was unclear. 

Oh, it's okay.. I was just curious because I thought you were talking about my OC or trying to say something to someone.

Oh god yes. Do you want an example.

 

Was this a reply to me to something I posted or just a statement?

There would probably be people who would be offended with such an ostensibly direct reference to Catholic doctrine on vices. Not that I'd complain.

Why do people get offended by so many dumb things and complain about them?