Feather Data

1 minute ago, Scootaloved said:

It was in the 90's, so I'm not sure. My mother is a retired nurse, so it's likely she would have had me get the vaccine if it was available, or if she'd known about it.

The vaccine was introduced in 1984

1 minute ago, Scootaloved said:

By skipping getting the flu vaccine, the flu virus can use your body as a way to jump from you to someone else, including children or the immunosuppressed. Remember, you being vaccinated doesn't just affect you, it affects the population around you by increasing the percentage of those immune to a virus. If you got the flu, yeah, it probably wouldn't hurt you too badly as an adult, you'd likely just have to stay in bed for a day at worst, but an unvaccinated child or someone with a weaker immune system might contract it from you. You also make it so your daughter's vaccination is less effective; those who are immune are still able to get the illness if there is an outbreak, even if it is by far a reduced chance.

I want to mention something else,

I should say getting the flu shot will not prevent the flu, instead it lessens the severity of the deadlier strains of flu out there. That is the reason the flu is still very common and impossible to eradicate

Especially when the virus mutates all the time

And the flu shot won't prevent you from getting the mutated strain.

if you get the flu, please stay home, and don't spread your mutated virus and infect other vaccinated people

Unfortunately, the flu is inevitable, but that is no excuse to not get your flu shot.

Just do not expect it the highly prevent the flu like how the measles and polio vaccines do for their respected diseases

13 minutes ago, Scootaloved said:

It has a vaccine because those who get chicken pox when they are children are susceptible (note: pretty much almost guaranteed) to get shingles later in life, so it'd be better to prevent from getting it period. In addition, the chicken pox is deadly in adults, so if you never got it in your childhood, you absolutely MUST get a chicken pox vaccine.

EDIT: Though I know what you mean by the rite of passage lol. I remember when there was a huge chicken pox sweep within my neighborhood. I unfortunately contracted it during that time, which means I'll probably get shingles at some point. Which sucks.

Was the vaccine available at the time?

2 minutes ago, PiratePony said:

As @ShadOBabesaid, there are quacks out there. One such quack is the one who came out with the study that vaccines cause autism. His study was discredited, as he forged his study and his PhD was revoked. However, the stigma remains, which led to other fears.

I vaccinate my daughter, including the flu. I for one skip the flu, because that's one that seems silly to me -- and I've never gotten the flu. 

 

I'm surprised chicken pox has a vaccine now. That was a fun rite of passage.

And I got vaccinated for it when I was younger

3 minutes ago, PiratePony said:

As @ShadOBabesaid, there are quacks out there. One such quack is the one who came out with the study that vaccines cause autism. His study was discredited, as he forged his study and his PhD was revoked. However, the stigma remains, which led to other fears.

I vaccinate my daughter, including the flu. I for one skip the flu, because that's one that seems silly to me -- and I've never gotten the flu. 

Wait, you vaccinate your daughter for the flu, but not yourself?

Odd. 

Also you are using the same fallacy most anti flu vaxxers use, 'I never caught the flu'

it is very possible for you to catch the flu, vaccinated or not, the vaccine can reduce severity

Just now, Lucky Bolt said:

Yes they are actually. 

Oh...

This is going to be a recurring theme, isn't it?

Please VACCINATE YOUR KIDS!!!

1 minute ago, Lucky Bolt said:

I support vaccines, but I know people irl who don't. 

Are any of them parents?

1 minute ago, Mesme Rize said:

Well, a flu does not have to be fatal if you treat it well when it happens and most flu deaths happen with people under age of 5 and over age of 65. A Flu shot is not really that necessary, but is of course an option.

if we talk about shots for stuff like Tetanus, then we reach a whole new level.

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/another-child-suffers-from-the-effects-of-anti-vaccine-propaganda-and-tetanus/

Yea, let us talk about diseases like tetanus, measles, polio, chickenpox, and many more

the flu is nothing compared to these

Just now, Envy said:

I have a friend that just seems to fall for all of this stuff, and has made her stance as an anti-vaxxer clear. Unfortunately, she is a mother, and has three children.

Wait, she is a mother!!?? 

2 minutes ago, Mesme Rize said:

I saw the thread and instantly had to post this.

But seriously now, not only is it incredibly stupid, but these parents put their kids in danger with this sort of view.

I always respected and support doctors and what they do and, yes eventhough there might be some fatal errors that happen, there is no reason not to distrust your Doctor.

I mean, would you rather let your kid die and do nothing about it? The absurdity with this subject is through the roof.

Anti flu vaxxers, I can deal with, even though they are jerks.

but actual anti vaxxers, i can't stand.

5 minutes ago, Ganondorf8 said:

I'm okay with vaccinations seeing as I've been getting them for as long as I can remember.

What do you think about the people against vaccinations, though?

8 minutes ago, Scootaloved said:

 

It's something I feel pretty passionately about, if that wasn't evident. 

Care to take it out on this guy? He is a doctor of naturopathy.

EDIT: Wow, it took me a few tries to get the video on here

Wow, that was a long post.

6 minutes ago, Steve Piranha said:

I hate them. They live in a delusion that their ignorance is worth more than a doctor's that studied years in the field, and they risk others by spreading diseases they refused to vaccinate

Couldn't agree with you more!

By the way. that site I referred to , the antivax site?

They actually AIRED COMMERCIALS TO STOP PARENTS FROM VACCINATING!

What is that? You don't believe me?

Well, look here 

2 minutes ago, SharpWit said:

I had many coworkers who didn't get their flu vaccines this past year. One of them I think just had a weak immune system or something because although it's often expected to feel some mild nausea while you're building antibodies, he would feel too sick to work. It might not have been as bad as the flu but he figured if he wasn't going to be able to work might as well take the risk. Another coworker has an allergy to one of the components used in the vaccines so for them it was either deal with the flu or be hospitalized I beleive. Finally, and I could very well be wrong about this, but I think last years flu vaccine covered only one of three major variants and was under 40% effective for the variant it did cover, resulting in about a 10% effectiveness, making it seem almost pointless in getting the vaccine, so many other coworkers didn't get it. I and two other coworkers went and got ours together since we were more likely to catch the flu or spread it to children as we had more interaction with them.

When it comes to medical issues, we have to treat everyone individually. We're all people, but we have different bodies with different reactions to the same substances. This isn't something to be overlooked for the sake of speeding things along and getting it all over with.

I guess I could understand why some people would be against the flu shot.

Even though it does not prevent the flu, due to mutating strains, the vaccine can inhibit, aka reduce your severity.

Honestly, that does not even compare to actual antivaxxers, who are against all vaccines, whether it be for measles, polio, whatever. They would rather not eradicate these infections, but plague them onto other people. Unacceptable!

14 minutes ago, Victoria Sponge said:

I think they're selfish and cruel, they'd rather their kid get horrible diseases instead of preventing them with a mythical risk of autism, which isn't that bad even if it were true, it's certainly better than polio etc.

Urgh, probably because they do not believe in eradication of diseases like smallpox, despite it being eliminated in the late 70's.

And sadly, some nut named Larry Cook is trying to put a stop to mandatory vaccination, which has been put into law in some states in the US

PROBABLY BECAUSE OF MEASLES OUTBREAKS THAT HAVE BEEN CAUSED DUE TO UNVACCINATED CHILDREN! Just saying.

Now more states,  maybe even more countries are getting into this, which I understand why some people may not like it, well, blame the antivaxxers. Also, there is literally no reason not to vaccinate your kids! PLEASE GET THEM VACCINATED!

Okay, I have not said it clearly here yet, but anti-vaxxers really make me mad!

So angry! They deny the science of vaccination, because of autism (which unfortunately has turned into a buzzword thanks to these assholes, and this is coming from someone with autism)

Instead they say "My kid has a healthy immune system!"

A healthy immune system THAT DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO FIGHT MEASLES!

Another excuse they say " Vaccines have chemicals in them."

JUST LIKE EVERYTHING YOU USE IS MADE OF CHEMICALS, YOU ASSHAT!

URGH, I have so much to say about these antivaxxers, but I want to hear more from you guys

1 minute ago, ShadOBabe said:

Well quacks DO exist unfortunately.

And yes, my mom was concerned about the amount of shots they gave me, but the educated doctors are like, "Naaaaaaaah, she'll be fiiiiiine..."

Cue suffocating ShadOBaby...

Vaccines have saved countless lives. But it is totally okay to not trust your doctor as the final word on everything. Getting multiple opinions, and sometimes calling your own shots on what is best for you personally, is very sound.

But don't get your opinions from people who deny vaccines, they are insane

2 minutes ago, ShadOBabe said:

See the thing is though, the DOCTORS should have known better. That is what they go to school for, yes?

Yes. And I feel anti vaxxers will also use this to 'prove' doctors have no idea what they are doing, and are 'stealing your money'

Just now, ShadOBabe said:

Indeed. Vaccines are a perfectly sound medical practice.

But maybe when putting them in a baby, do just one or two, wait a couple days, and then a couple more.

Yea, putting too many vaccines at once is not very safe. But do not blame vaccines for almost killing your kid when you should plan each vaccination on separate days! 

This will cause the ingredients in vaccines to reach harmful levels if done too close together

Just now, ShadOBabe said:

I support vaccines. And so does my mom. But we don't support pumping a bunch of them into a small child at once.

Because when I was a toddler, I went to get some shots. And they apparently gave me a bunch. That day I got a spiked fever, had a seizure, and stopped breathing. My grandfather had to give me mouth to mouth while they waited for the ambulance. As you can see, I'm not dead, but trust was lost that day.

Sadly, many anti-vaxxers cherrypick such a scenario like yours as a way to prove that vaccines, even one can cause harm.

Honestly, antivaxxers refuse to trust their doctors, and claim "Vaccines do nothing, only healthy immune systems do!"

Immune systems need to learn how to fight the infection first, which is where the vaccines come into play.

Sadly, there is an antivax group trying to spread their ignorance to other parents https://www.stopmandatoryvaccination.com

Please do not fall for their BS!

How do you feel about anti vaxxers?

Toon, you are a criminal

Honestly, I thought Toon would never do that, but once I saw the evidence and the video call with joshscorcher, I couldn't believe he would do such a thing.

Now Toon leaves me nothing but pissed off.

The police and FBI need to get involved here.

What do you think of this facial hair?

Dose

Dome