Malcontent

22 hours ago, Mesme Rize said:

First off, i accept your apology. You seem like an okay and reasonable guy after all. I also apologize if i seemed a bit rude. I just woke up early in the morning when i wrote my comment.

Well, everyone has their opinion and like you pretty much implied in your reply, just because there is a majority opinion, you don't have to fall in line with that and i respect that. For example, i never got the big hype around Princess Luna. In my eyes, 80% of the people like her for what she is in the fandom and not the show. I don't hate her by any means, i just don't know why everyone flipsout when she is on screen.

I think in this regard, we have to agree to disagree here, because i kinda think differently. I understand where you are coming from. The real world is not black and white and has alot of problems. But that's why i like this show so much. It shows a wonderful and magical world where everyone has a chance to make friends. I know, it's just a TV Show. But for those 20 minutes, i can just lose myself in it.

It'sssssss no problem. Maybe you like to look a bit deeper into my eyessssssssss?

 

You're a nice guy. No hard feelings.

Thanks n.n 

Here is a better worded breakdown I find very accurate. Not my video but very true. 

https://youtu.be/yao7KAW9ICQ

8 hours ago, RareBase said:

 How's it any different than say, Twilight and her friends going on a dangerous adventure to stop Nightmare Moon or Discord?

The two examples given are acceptable due to the fact she's the main character and our real eyes in the world. Couplednwirh the fact she and her friends are the avatars for the elements of friendship, this seems reasonable. 

If the world's problems could be solved by everybody and not just the name six, we would have no reason for the elements xD 

I hadn't taken into consideration the queen shot her down. T hats an excellent point! 

Thanks! 

2 hours ago, Mesme Rize said:

Sorry dude, but the term Mary Sue has been misused so much over the years, that it has lost any sort of meaning and is just a buzzword now for people who don't like a certain character. Twilight Sparkle was also called a mary sue when she became a princess and i think some still do, eventhough they have no idea what it means. Also:

You know that this sentence is you being very entitled here. I mean, who are you to tell me, what a quality character is supposed to be? You are not better then me, just because i happen to like Starlight Glimmer. It's fine that you have your opinion, but everyones opinion is equally as good as yours.

Remember, this is a very idealistic show we're talking about here, where every bad guy has a good heart deep inside of him. Friendship pretty much holds their universe together, with everyone in that universe having a chance to be happy. That's why every episode in this series has a happy ending.

Perhaps I should have used the term "poorly written" then? I can't see how twilight was a Mary sue because, well, she's the main character but t hats an old issue n.n 

I was referring to the fact that she seems to be popping up everywhere and solving the problems that come her way, most usually without the same amount of help it took our supposed avatars of harmony to handle large events. I compare it to how say Mary Sue fixes everything wrong in engineering when the supposed chief of said ship can't (but has in canon several times shown themselves compotent)

If I sound entitled it's not my intent and I apologize. Look at it this way: for the most part no one seems to have a problem with starlight. By societal rules, the majority opinion rules and is thus considered the normal or "right" answer. 

If my opinion is not in line with that so called right answer, then something must be wrong with me. In fact there has to be, because the writers of the show seem to keep writing her this way. I love this fandom and I love the shows. Until about a day ago my faith was solid. If they are right, then I must be wrong. If I'm wrong about this, what stops me from being wrong about liking the ip? 

Imagine how that feels. 

I understand as I stated above, that we need to teach the lesson that everyone should be given a chance. The lesson however should also be there that not everyone IS redeemable. If this show is supposedly for kids, what kind of lesson are we teaching if we tell them to blindly try to befriend someone that's clearly a threat. 

There ARE monsters in the world. Don't assume everyone is but be able to tell when one is a genuine threat beyond redemption. 

Also I apologies for not replying sooner I looked at your icon and lost a few hours of time being hypnotized

Thanks for the input! 

1 hour ago, RareBase said:

Can't comment on your thoughts for the EQG special, sorry. Only read a bit of that but I'd rather not get spoiled. As for the rest of your argument...Sorry, I can't see how Starlight could possibly be a Mary Sue. Yes, she's powerful. Yes, she's talented. She's also one of the most flawed characters in the show. Even after her reformation she struggles with herself regularly, she constantly slips into her old habits of abusing her magic and manipulating others around her, she's impulsive and doesn't fully think through the consequences of her actions, she's had issues controlling her anger, etc.

 She didn't learn how to fix these things quickly either, she's still struggling with them this season too as Episode 10 "A Royal Problem" shows, and while that episode ended well and her impulsive decision turned out to be the right one, it was still an impulsive decision that could have gone awfully wrong. She later in the episode has an awful nightmare about it too, literally beginning to believe she's going to cause the sisters to turn into their Nightmare selves. She's her own harshest critic.

 Starlight's got a lot of good things going for her, but she's got too many flaws and imperfections for me to consider her a Mary Sue. It's those very flaws that have made me adore her.

I appreciate your feedback! 

The flaws you point out, if thats what they are, can they then justify the seemingly over the top moments I've described not counting the Eqg special? 

You raise a good point with the flaws however. Those seem to be rather convenient when the story calls for it at times, but still, they are present.

That a got me thinking now. So woth this in mind, anyone else?  

Except it was confirmed that Twilight won't be doing any outliving.

Do tell