Maxmillian 136 April 6 #1 Share April 6 (edited) And partly it makes me realize.. 1995 is when technology should have ended But here is why. Reason is i know anyone can DO THIS and i know this was made by someone atleast putting somewhat effort into making something over.. . disingenious stuff. Or as i call it "The insult to life" program. Then again with AI i dont know if some hacks use it to not put effort into writing a story either so... -_- Edited April 6 by Maxmillian 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnshine Wonder 1,487 April 6 #2 Share April 6 I see your point, I have to pencil and paper my MLP FIM fan fiction though because I need to edit out mistakes as needed, still better than using AI. AI is annoying sometimes as well, sometimes ChatGPT would assume things you never even wanted to be in the script in the first place, or get details about characters wrong. It's more trouble than it was worth. It can copy and paste a script you already gave it seamlessly, that part is no problem, I done that loads of times from a script I made in a text file of a fanfic, my more basic version of the story, but when making scripts from scratch you kind of have to do it on your own. I should have just used Grammarly extension for the typo problem, would have been easier. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxmillian 136 April 6 Author #3 Share April 6 Or i changed my mind. I was wrong AI art is art. The same way Modern Art is. Its made by people who cant draw to begin with, its art, its just bad art. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pentium100 2,251 April 7 #4 Share April 7 On 2025-04-06 at 4:29 PM, Dawnshine Wonder said: I see your point, I have to pencil and paper my MLP FIM fan fiction though because I need to edit out mistakes as needed, still better than using AI. Expand Well, nobody is forcing you to use AI and some sites (at least for pictures) have separate tags for AI generated pictures or ban them completely. AI can generate good looking pictures though. AI is a tool like any other. It can be abused, just like any other tool. For example, if a singer performed correctly during recording, but made one mistake, you can use software to fix it. However, people get temped to make everything "perfect" and turn a great performer into a robot that always has perfect pitch and never makes mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxmillian 136 April 7 Author #5 Share April 7 (edited) On 2025-04-07 at 6:47 AM, Pentium100 said: Well, nobody is forcing you to use AI and some sites (at least for pictures) have separate tags for AI generated pictures or ban them completely. AI can generate good looking pictures though. AI is a tool like any other. It can be abused, just like any other tool. For example, if a singer performed correctly during recording, but made one mistake, you can use software to fix it. However, people get temped to make everything "perfect" and turn a great performer into a robot that always has perfect pitch and never makes mistakes. Expand Its as much as tool as spraying a bucket on a canvas. Its for people who generally lack talent to make anything creative on their own. It is funny to make fun of it though. Its overall bad art, but... nonetheless funny to mock people for it. Edited April 7 by Maxmillian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnshine Wonder 1,487 April 7 #6 Share April 7 On 2025-04-07 at 6:47 AM, Pentium100 said: AI is a tool like any other. It can be abused, just like any other tool. For example, if a singer performed correctly during recording, but made one mistake, you can use software to fix it. However, people get temped to make everything "perfect" and turn a great performer into a robot that always has perfect pitch and never makes mistakes. Expand It could be used for good purposes as well, but it's not like Pokemon Company would care, they had a means to efficiently edit those old episodes with Jynx in, give her a purple face instead of black, sussing out the racism controversies without banning the episodes entirely. But no, they'd rather just take the easier option just to keep up appearances. Besides Jynx is not even a human character, human shaped, yes, but Jynx is not actually a human in the same way Charizard is not a dragon, and human characters do not give birth to Smoochum. Honestly I don't quite agree with people who stirred up those controversies about Jynx, but unfortunately we do not share a planet with rationally thinking people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pentium100 2,251 April 8 #7 Share April 8 On 2025-04-07 at 2:23 PM, Maxmillian said: Its as much as tool as spraying a bucket on a canvas. Its for people who generally lack talent to make anything creative on their own. Expand The "spraying a bucket on a canvas" paintings sell for lots of money though. AI can create good looking pictures and it requires some skill to use it. It won't replace any art by the good artists, but it can replace the cheap artists. On 2025-04-07 at 8:22 PM, Dawnshine Wonder said: It could be used for good purposes as well Expand Yeah, like any other tool. Imagine if AI could be used to generate realistic looking video and sound - some creative writer could make his first movie by himself without needing to spend piles of money to hire actors etc. Even if it would not be as good as a movie with real actors, it would be the difference between having a movie and not having it. However, people tend to abuse tools or use them as shortcuts. Why do lots of recordings of the same song to get the performance correctly if you can record it twice, take the better parts and then fix them with software? Why optimize a game so it runs great on a PC if the video card can just generate fake frames using AI? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxmillian 136 April 8 Author #8 Share April 8 (edited) On 2025-04-08 at 5:59 AM, Pentium100 said: The "spraying a bucket on a canvas" paintings sell for lots of money though. AI can create good looking pictures and it requires some skill to use it. It won't replace any art by the good artists, but it can replace the cheap artists. Yeah, like any other tool. Imagine if AI could be used to generate realistic looking video and sound - some creative writer could make his first movie by himself without needing to spend piles of money to hire actors etc. Even if it would not be as good as a movie with real actors, it would be the difference between having a movie and not having it. However, people tend to abuse tools or use them as shortcuts. Why do lots of recordings of the same song to get the performance correctly if you can record it twice, take the better parts and then fix them with software? Why optimize a game so it runs great on a PC if the video card can just generate fake frames using AI? Expand Yeah it sells money, but it just isnt good art. Its ridiculed by people. Even the one with a taped banana. Like how is that art XD But its why AI art is a perfect description for it, its non talented art with no effort. It can be considered art, but its on the mockery level of bad art. Edited April 8 by Maxmillian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnshine Wonder 1,487 April 8 #9 Share April 8 On 2025-04-08 at 11:12 AM, Maxmillian said: Yeah it sells money, but it just isnt good art. Its ridiculed by people. Even the one with a taped banana. Like how is that art XD But its why AI art is a perfect description for it, its non talented art with no effort. It can be considered art, but its on the mockery level of bad art. Expand Nobody with any taste in art would consider that art either, duct tape anything to a wall, is just stupid, it's zero creativity and possibly created for clickbait or views. At least with AI you sort of have to tell it what to do before it knows what to work on, but a duct taped banana to a wall is no more of an art than a gold plated turd. Sometimes things are created for a scam, and a scam unfortunately works well for people who will be fooled into buying useless overpriced items, like the junk Donald Trump sells people, spray painted sneakers which sell 400$ a pair, for Trump, it was an easy way to make money, people buy junk thinking its art for some reason. and creativity is only part of what makes art what it is, how it looks and what it is matters just as much. AI can sometimes make something look decorative, and it does have some economic value, AI also required skilled programmers to develop the technology, duct taped banana to a wall or gold spray painted sneakers is laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxmillian 136 April 8 Author #10 Share April 8 On 2025-04-08 at 2:18 PM, Dawnshine Wonder said: Nobody with any taste in art would consider that art either, duct tape anything to a wall, is just stupid, it's zero creativity and possibly created for clickbait or views. At least with AI you sort of have to tell it what to do before it knows what to work on, but a duct taped banana to a wall is no more of an art than a gold plated turd. Sometimes things are created for a scam, and a scam unfortunately works well for people who will be fooled into buying useless overpriced items, like the junk Donald Trump sells people, spray painted sneakers which sell 400$ a pair, for Trump, it was an easy way to make money, people buy junk thinking its art for some reason. and creativity is only part of what makes art what it is, how it looks and what it is matters just as much. AI can sometimes make something look decorative, and it does have some economic value, AI also required skilled programmers to develop the technology, duct taped banana to a wall or gold spray painted sneakers is laughable. Expand AI art and banana duct taped are both crap. Thats what i love about it. They both require zero efforts. So its why they are both mockery form of ridicule. Having zero talent means you are a loser. Thats it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnshine Wonder 1,487 April 8 #11 Share April 8 On 2025-04-08 at 5:59 AM, Pentium100 said: Why optimize a game so it runs great on a PC if the video card can just generate fake frames using AI? Expand Deep Learning from Nvidia comes to mind here, I agree that games should be better optimized so that fake frames are not needed as much, however games will continue to be developed more demanding from generation to generation because like other things, technology changes. AI generates some decent antialiasing though, so there's that, it's better than using FXAA which is garbage, it removes jagged edges where they should not be, but it does so at the expense of blurred textures and it looks a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippity Hoppity Sketch 2,226 April 10 #12 Share April 10 On 2025-04-08 at 11:12 AM, Maxmillian said: Yeah it sells money, but it just isnt good art. Its ridiculed by people. Even the one with a taped banana. Like how is that art XD But its why AI art is a perfect description for it, its non talented art with no effort. It can be considered art, but its on the mockery level of bad art. Expand I think it's the intention and meaning behind why they made it in the first place. Maybe it's to symbolize the simplicity in some things or how something that seems so complex has a simple solution. Perhaps the artist was struggling with what to do, what to make and then it was so simple. It could be to show aging since the banana will begin to decay over time. I believe there was a thought process behind this simple task. Or, it could have been a silly joke just to get a few laughs. I still see it as art. Just because it doesn't seem like your typical art piece, something that makes sense to you, doesn't mean it's not. c: Sometimes, people won't understand the intention behind a work, and that's okay. The art is still arting. Trying to look at things from different perspectives can help, in some cases. I suppose, art is in the eye of the beholder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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