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So this equation has shown up in at least 3 episodes now. I believe it must have something to do with why the weather and seasons can't seem to control themselves, or the math behind unicorn magic.

 

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Thats what I thought at first too, but think about it, the princess has to raise and lower both the moon and sun via her magic. This means one of two things must be true, either the planet does not rotate, or she uses her magic to rotate the planet manually. Either way your average filly would not need to understand the mathmatics behind this process because it has always been and will continue to be the sole responsiblity of the princess.

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Thats what I thought at first too, but think about it, the princess has to raise and lower both the moon and sun via her magic. This means one of two things must be true, either the planet does not rotate, or she uses her magic to rotate the planet manually. Either way your average filly would not need to understand the mathmatics behind this process because it has always been and will continue to be the sole responsiblity of the princess.

 

If that's the case, then maybe they are trying to understand HOW to rotate their planet, maybe to something more permanent. Being that they also have to either use magic to change the seasons or do it manually. They also have to control their own weather because the rotation of a planet generates wind, no wind = no weather. You catchin' mah' logic bro?

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Yes but in general all astronomical bodies rotate even if the the rotation rate varies. This means that more than likely the princess is using her magic to keep the planet from rotating, and then forcing it to rotate only twice daily using her power. My guess is that by doing so she assures herself power by providing this vital service and allows her to maintain her grip over all of equestria. This would also explain how Nightmare Moon managed to keep equestria in a state of night for an extended period, by having more magical ability than her sister and keeping the planet from rotating via her magic, once she lost that power she no longer was able to control an object as large as a planet and this is why she never took control of the night back from Celestia. Originally I assume the reason they split the duty into day and night was to reduce the number of times the planet would have to be moved to once per day each, Assuming they/she is using her power to keep the planet from rotating though, she would not be sharing this information with everypony as this would most likely lead to her being overthrown for manipulating everypony and maintaining what is essentially a benevolent dictatorship for over a thousand years of pony history.

 

Just as a side note you could argue that Celestia has done more good than harm during her reign as sovereign but if you look at what we know about Equestrian society and it is very slanted. The capital city of Canterlot is inhabited primarily by wealthy and powerful unicorns aka magic users. Earth ponies on the other hand are relegated to jobs such as farming, baking, carpentry, military service, and washing windows. There is clearly some form of discrimination going on and because magic is so valued by royalty, those without magical ability have a hard time moving up in society.

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Yes but in general all astronomical bodies rotate even if the the rotation rate varies. This means that more than likely the princess is using her magic to keep the planet from rotating, and then forcing it to rotate only twice daily using her power. My guess is that by doing so she assures herself power by providing this vital service and allows her to maintain her grip over all of equestria. This would also explain how Nightmare Moon managed to keep equestria in a state of night for an extended period, by having more magical ability than her sister and keeping the planet from rotating via her magic, once she lost that power she no longer was able to control an object as large as a planet and this is why she never took control of the night back from Celestia.

 

Assuming the planet is roughly the size of Earth, it would take an incredible amount of energy to stop it from moving would it not? Our planet rotates at about 1,000 miles per hour and if that rotation were to stop we would all die from the resulting wind shear. So it brings into question how one pony can stop both of these penomena and still rotate the planet. Also, I have no idea where I'm going with this...

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Assuming the planet is roughly the size of Earth, it would take an incredible amount of energy to stop it from moving would it not? Our planet rotates at about 1,000 miles per hour and if that rotation were to stop we would all die from the resulting wind shear. So it brings into question how one pony can stop both of these penomena and still rotate the planet. Also, I have no idea where I'm going with this...

 

But you see, though we know very little about the extent of Celestias magical ability we do know that she has the power to "raise the sun"". Assuming as you said that Equestria is roughly the size of earth, and their sun is a yellow dwarf star like ours (which is a good assumption to make based on the color of the sun and average tempature in Equestria) then the size and distance would make "raising the sun" much harder and require far more magic than simply stoping the rotation of Equestria itself.
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But you see, though we know very little about the extent of Celestias magical ability we do know that she has the power to "raise the sun"". Assuming as you said that Equestria is roughly the size of earth, and their sun is a yellow dwarf star like ours (which is a good assumption to make based on the color of the sun and average tempature in Equestria) then the size and distance would make "raising the sun" much harder and require far more magic than simply stoping the rotation of Equestria itself.

 

Yes, and she does both apparently. Yet she could not stop Dischord by herself? She has to have some kind of limit to her powers. I'm so confused...nothing makes sense to me anymore... :mellow:


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See but in that episode Discord, like Luna when she was Nightmare Moon was seen changing it from day to night almost instantly. (not to mention all the other stuff he managed to do.) It was stated that he, unlike ponies, is a creature that feeds on choas and it fuels him, the more chaos and disharmony he creates the more powerful he becomes. The first time he was banished it took the elements of harmony (which I guess are the most powerful magical artifacts known to exist?) as well as the combined power of Celestia and Luna to banish him. Now that Celestia no longer has the power of the elements of harmony and Luna has lost much of her former power they could no longer stop him. The fact that Celestia was the former magic element behind the elements of harmony, a title now held by Twilight Sparkle, leads me to believe that Celestia is keeping Twilight close so that she can continue to weild that power to some extent through Twilight.

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See but in that episode Discord, like Luna when she was Nightmare Moon was seen changing it from day to night almost instantly. (not to mention all the other stuff he managed to do.) It was stated that he, unlike ponies, is a creature that feeds on choas and it fuels him, the more chaos and disharmony he creates the more powerful he becomes. The first time he was banished it took the elements of harmony (which I guess are the most powerful magical artifacts known to exist?) as well as the combined power of Celestia and Luna to banish him. Now that Celestia no longer has the power of the elements of harmony and Luna has lost much of her former power they could no longer stop him. The fact that Celestia was the former magic element behind the elements of harmony, a title now held by Twilight Sparkle, leads me to believe that Celestia is keeping Twilight close so that she can continue to weild that power to some extent through Twilight.

 

I see, however I think we are getting off track from the purpose of this thread...


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Yes indeed, but I do so enjoy talking about the political climate, economics, and inner workings of Equestria. Needless to say an entire show, darker in nature, could be dedicated to Celestia and her backstory. For example at which point did the elements of harmony abandon her as their master? (I assume it was before Luna was banished to the moon because Celestia must not have had the power to remove the darkness from her without the elements and who were the other 4 original ponies who comprised the 6 elements with Celestia and Luna? What happened to the king of Equestria?

 

Anyways I feel that the equation on that chalkboard which continues to show up is at the heart of these questions and one day will reveal the secrets of the pony universe to all.

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Anyways I feel that the equation on that chalkboard which continues to show up is at the heart of these questions and one day will reveal the secrets of the pony universe to all.

 

I can agree to that, thanks for the logical conversation.


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