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1 minute ago, Bas said:

I am just saying it makes sense from a risk-factoring business standpoint.

It really doesn't. Like, if they can't ban child porn properly on it's own (which would be weird since seemingly every other website is capable of it), then why would they have a bigger success rate by removing porn in its entirety? 

10 minutes ago, Bas said:

Because it might be better for them risk-wise to have just 1% child porn instead of 5%.

Right, I agree. But that doesn't make this ban any better.

Yeah, a lot of people posts blogs in which they review games so that should be fine. 

4 minutes ago, Bas said:

TBH, there is always a risk left no matter how good you moderate.

 Even with removing every porn content there is still some risk leftover, albeit less obviously.

I'm sorry, but what is your point? I'm aware that Tumblr isn't gonna be able to remove 100% of the porn posted there, that's not the issue. 

Eh, in this particular case I'm against it. Mostly since it's unclear if the parents were informed of what exactly could go wrong.

7 hours ago, Justin_Case001 said:

Children also cannot consent to getting vaccinated, but we do that anyways (as well we should). 

I feel like we can't really compare this to vaccination. After all, if a vaccination would cause someone some kind of problem, that problem would be limited to that person. But if we make a mistake with gene manipulation that causes some kind of problem, that problem can be inherited by that person's children and then their children etc. 

14 hours ago, Discordian said:

A lot of advances in medical science were made from unethical experiments in the first place.

 

I've always found it a bit funny how many uses arguments like this, yet so few volunteers to partake in unethical experiments. 

On 12/6/2018 at 5:35 PM, TBD said:

But I'm saying the ideal of porn or other adult content like violence being wipe off in the face of the web is a bit far fetch... again, it just one website. People can be creative in finding porn/violence elsewhere. 

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Right, but again I'm not worried that this will lead to some sort of purge of adult content of the internet. I'm worried that if people take this lying down, then other people will adopt a similar style of moderating. 

20 hours ago, TBD said:

I think we a bit overreacting here..fearing if the other website will do the same? I hardly doubt it, especially if these alternative website are solely for fan-service. Or better yet, just google search "porn".

I feel like we're not on the same page here. 

The issue isn't that they're removing porn,  it's that they do so because they can't be arsed to properly moderate the content in question. 

And I'm a bit worried that if people don't voice their dislike for this kind of behavior, other websites will realize that they also don't need to properly moderate their content and that should they ever run into a problem as a result, they can just remove anything vaguely related to said content and call it a day. 

Since Zecora is so obviously inspired by African culture, I feel it's be a pretty bad idea to have her be so closely related to monkeys.

1 hour ago, Bas said:

Any source on that tumblr is swarmed by CP?

https://www.google.se/amp/s/techcrunch.com/2018/11/19/tumblr-booted-from-app-store-due-to-child-porn/amp/

1 hour ago, Bas said:

Every website should be allowed to decide themselves what they allow and what they don't.

Granted, but it's still a major dickmove to remove all adult content because it's easier than to actually put some effort in and fix the problems. 

11 minutes ago, Photon Jet said:

The problem is that these viewers would easily find a way around it by disabling it on their account.

1) You can't disable it. 2) Then that's the kids fault 3) Again, they aren't doing this to prevent kids from seeing porn. They're doing this because it's easier for them to remove all adult content than actually solving their childporn issue.

On 12/4/2018 at 12:04 AM, TBD said:

Why should I care?

Because Tumblr is gonna fuck over a large portion of their userbase since solving their actual problem takes too big of an effort. 

Even if you don't care about the porn, you should at least be a bit concerned about the message this is sending. And it's important to make a big enough fuss over this so no other websites decides to do the same thing. 

On 12/4/2018 at 12:39 AM, Photon Jet said:

To me, I think that's a reasonable move to completely make sure young Tumblr viewers do not see explicit content by accident as it is widely used by many

But that's not why they're doing it. 

And even if it were, Tumblr has already permanent safe search filter on so it's impossible to access blogs with "adult content" if you're under 18. 

I doubt it. The pixlar theory only works because each movie have little easter eggs that connect them to each other and I don't think there's anything like that in any of Hasbro's shows.

5 hours ago, Earl Grey Ghost said:

And who cares what gender your hero is, as long as you have a hero, right?

I'd take this argument a bit more seriously had you not simultaneously argued that the show needs more male characters. If we shouldn't care about the genders of the protagonists, why do you? 

5 hours ago, Earl Grey Ghost said:

it can have the unfortunate side-effect of (notice I said CAN, not WILL), of girls thinking that men are either not as important, or that they ONLY should make friends with fellow females.

I feel like that's a huge stretch. If watching a show with only female characters leads you to think that mles aren't as important then you didn't have all your horses to begin with. 

As for the friendship thing, you don't need to have male main characters to prove that males and females can be friends so I don't really see your point.

9 hours ago, Nightmare Muffin said:

most importantly, breaking the stereotype that animation isn't just for children

Is this even a stereotype anymore? I mean, I can mention like a dozen animated shows and movies that aren't for children of the top of my head (Elfen lied for example). And even if that were the case, what can my little pony of all shows do to break this stereotype that none of the other shows did?

1 hour ago, Bas said:

It could allow to a hinted ship between 2 males, though.

Cool, but what exactly is your point?

Because they were fairly one dimensional personality wise and their characters were more or less based on their interactions with the CMC, and as such there were nothing left to do once they stopped bullying them.

1 hour ago, Jedishy said:

The only thing consistent was that it was random scatter when observed and went through each hole regularly when not.

And your point is? Is still constant in the way that it acts a certain way 100% of the time when observed, unlike magic which only does it when you need to prove it's real. And that's why you can't use this experiment as an argument for magic. 

Like yeah, this experiment does prove that observation can have an effect on what's being observed. But it doesn't prove that the effect is going to completely random. 

1 hour ago, Jedishy said:

Why should I take that as evidence any more then you take my claims?

Because it uses the same logic as your argument. What makes your magic true, but this one false?

1 hour ago, Jedishy said:

Yup and the sun did not cause cancer in 200 BC because there was zero evidence to back that up in that time period nor would there be for many thousands of years. 

But your comparing apples and orangutans. For this to be a fair comparison, the only proof of the sun causing cancer would be that we can't prove it doesn't.

12 minutes ago, Jedishy said:

You just do not find them valid.

Because those are just excuses that stops working the second you spend more than a second thinking about it.

14 minutes ago, Jedishy said:

What proof that is offered is always dismissed and yet you keep clamoring " prove it ".

Kind of funny how you keep bringing up this point without ever saying what proof exactly is being offered.

15 minutes ago, Jedishy said:

. I have shown the mere observation impacts reality. 

Yeah, but as previously explained that's constant and not just happening when people need it to happen.

16 minutes ago, Jedishy said:

Magic uses energy

You don't know that, it might be using tomato sauce. 

18 minutes ago, Jedishy said:

er mind the fact that observation could lead to a consistent point of failure

Except it's not consistent, since some times people can observe it and sometimes they can't. 

19 minutes ago, Jedishy said:

ng a picture? Could that not be another point of failure? A mundane request being ignored

I've seen plenty of people claiming to use magic gmfor much more mundane things.

20 minutes ago, Jedishy said:

icular claim. But the proof that mere observation can impact reality and a molecular level leaves a very real possibility

Except not, because in that case it's constant and in this case it isn't. 

21 minutes ago, Jedishy said:

The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. 

No, but it's pretty telling when a claim have zero evidence to back it up. 

21 minutes ago, Jedishy said:

Never mind there are indeed cases of spontaneous remissions of disease that doctors can't for the life of theme explain. 

True, but that doesn't prove shit. All those people might have drank soda at some point before their recovery, does that mean that soda cures dieses?

20 minutes ago, Millennium Shadow said:

f someone does us magic publicly, they'd do it in a way were it's not really noticeable.

But plenty of people claim to be able to use magic publicly in a way that's noticeable. So I don't really see your point. 

Just now, Millennium Shadow said:

As I said, they did, indeed show their abilities, they'd either...

Yeah no. Thousands, if not millions, of people have claimed of being able to use magic in public. Are you telling me all of them have gotten killed because of it? And every single one got killed before they were able to prove that their abilities were real.

26 minutes ago, Jedishy said:

Observation impacts reality ( source  ) So it might not be possible

Cool, except that comparison falls apart fairly quickly once you realise that this is phenomenon is constant, and just doesn't magically appear whenever it's convient for the researchers.

26 minutes ago, Jedishy said:

Faith healers supposedly do it all the time but its dismissed sooooo 

Odd how they're never capable of healing people who are able to prove they were sick before visiting them.

26 minutes ago, Jedishy said:

There is nothing everyone wants and wants to pay the price for.

Yeah yeah, then just use something that nobody cares about. Like, magically make my toaster burn my bread slightly less. 

26 minutes ago, Jedishy said:

All that would prove or disprove is the impact of the crystals in that situation

But that be pretty relevant, since it's prove the existence of the supernatural.

26 minutes ago, Jedishy said:

Most claims like that would be said to be charlatans by most magical practitioners.

And that's relevant how? Why should I assume that most magical practiconals aren't the ones who are wrong? Neither side can prove jack shit.

But whatever, then just use a guy who can use magic to do [X], have him do [X] via magic, repeat until you no longer can claim coincidence. Bam, magic proven. 

26 minutes ago, Jedishy said:

Hawking doubted the first black hole found and lost a bet due to it. Do

 This would be a more fit comparisons had the first black hole been found 2000 years ago and we still wouldn't have any proof of it.

26 minutes ago, Millennium Shadow said:

But I'm pretty sure there are people out there who use magic or a regular basis, but decide to hide it their abilities so they wouldn't either...

What about those that don't? There's thousands of people claiming to be able to use magic, why haven't they just proven there capable of doing so by now?

Just now, Jedishy said:

Testing it in a lab might be a point of failure.

Then don't test it in a lab. Just watch someone who claim to be able to cast magic do so where ever they feel comfortable doing so. 

2 minutes ago, Jedishy said:

Secondly, if it does require the aid of supernormal beings then they could very well be insulted at profaning sacred gifts and thus doom it to failure

Then don't just use it for testing. Use it to heal a sick guy or something. Just something we're capable of seeing the results of.

4 minutes ago, Jedishy said:

Cross desires.

Then use it for something that everybody wants. Like, de-pollution the waters or something.

5 minutes ago, Jedishy said:

Improper focus

Then let's use one of the people who claim to be able to use magic. If they focused enough in the past, they should be able to do so again. 

6 minutes ago, Jedishy said:

Explain how you prove its existence if it cant be measured and you dont know the rules to make it reliable.

Take one of those people who claim to have crystals capable of curing cancer. Let her use said crystal to cure the cancer of people not having any other treatment. Repeat the process until you can't claim it's coincide. 

There, that be proving magic without knowing how it works or how to measure it. 

Just now, Jedishy said:

See points 1 and 2 on my list.

Yeah, they don't really explain anything though. 

11 minutes ago, Jedishy said:

1) Why does magic fail so often if its real? 

That's not the question we should be asking. What we should be asking is why does magic only work when nobody is questioning it?

Like, you're trying to tell me that magic and people being able to use it have been around for all of recorded history, but as soon as they gonna prove it's real it stops working? Well, that's really convient. 

14 minutes ago, Jedishy said:

2) Why can't we measure it or prove it? 

Good question. Since magic have a tangible effect, it should be easy to prove it's existance even if we can't figure out how it works or how to measure it. 

Just now, Jedishy said:

Were black holes or radiation not around before discovery?

No, but back then we had no way of observing those. 

Meanwhile plenty of people nowadays, even some members of this forum, claim to be able to cast magic or having seen somebody else do so. Hence, the existance of magic should have been easily proven by now if it were real.

3 hours ago, AveryGamerDude said:

Seriously. Just one song and everyone loves Twilight? One battle and Sunset Shimmer stops being a bad guy? That wouldn't happen in the show!

That's pretty much what happens in the finale of season 5, though. 

10 hours ago, Nightmare Muffin said:

.However, I could be wrong- they seem fond of opening up  pony themed cafes over there

Just to be clear, the fact that a single person opened of a pony themed cafe doesn't prove anything regarding the shows popularity in Japan.

Espically not since the cafe in question were more inspired by the previous generations. 

10 hours ago, Nightmare Muffin said:

Pony in Japan doesn't get talked about much. 

I mean, do we talk about pony in any specific country much? For example, I don't recall any topics about "Pony in Sweden" or "Pony in Germany".