Hive King 2,001 June 9, 2014 Author Share June 9, 2014 @, Again, you won't believe this, Garble and his gang were based on G1's teenage dragons They literally did the same thing, Spike wanted to learn how to be a dragon, joined up with them, and denied his draconic heritage 1 "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainblow H. Ash 5,091 June 9, 2014 Share June 9, 2014 (edited) Is it just me, or has G1 gotten more popular on here recently? Ha ha, it's probably due to Tirek! But to be fair, I had already watched Midnight Castle, The Movie, and The Return of Tambelon before even Season 3 came out. Still... now I'm learning I should probably just watch all of G1. I had no idea what I was missing out on. @, Again, you won't believe this, Garble and his gang were based on G1's teenage dragons They literally did the same thing, Spike wanted to learn how to be a dragon, joined up with them, and denied his draconic heritage See, it's stuff like this that makes me wonder where all the G1 hate even came from. I remember a lot of people have been saying that Tirek should be the only thing they bring back from G1, but the truth is this: a crap ton of the stuff people love about G4 came from G1! Man, that's too awesome. I've gotta watch this freaking series, I'm getting pumped. Edited June 9, 2014 by Rainblow Hash 1 #bringbackmerriwetherwillaims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 June 9, 2014 Author Share June 9, 2014 Ha ha, it's probably due to Tirek! But to be fair, I had already watched Midnight Castle, The Movie, and The Return of Tambelon before even Season 3 came out. Still... now I'm learning I should probably just watch all of G1. I had no idea what I was missing out on. See, it's stuff like this that makes me wonder where all the G1 hate even came from. I remember a lot of people have been saying that Tirek should be the only thing they bring back from G1, but the truth is this: a crap ton of the stuff people love about G4 came from G1! Man, that's too awesome. I've gotta watch this freaking series, I'm getting pumped. Genocidal penguins, evil sea monsters, a drug addicted cat, a purple ghost, a smoke cloud who eats shadows, a dog made of rocks, etc. Yeah, pretty big variety 1 "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rarity Paige Belle 1,854 June 9, 2014 Share June 9, 2014 Ha ha, it's probably due to Tirek! But to be fair, I had already watched Midnight Castle, The Movie, and The Return of Tambelon before even Season 3 came out. Still... now I'm learning I should probably just watch all of G1. I had no idea what I was missing out on. It's just that ever since I joined this site, I've been trying to spread the G1 love! 1 Beautiful, Stylish, Fabulous AND evil! What more could you want? (Thanks Kyoshi for letting everyone use your sigs!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainblow H. Ash 5,091 June 9, 2014 Share June 9, 2014 Genocidal penguins, evil sea monsters, a drug addicted cat, a purple ghost, a smoke cloud who eats shadows, a dog made of rocks, etc. Yeah, pretty big variety I should've known that the entire series was just as awesome. I got just a taste with villains like Tirek, Grogar, Catrina, Lavan, Smooze, Hydia, Reeka, Draggle, and others... There's just too many awesome villains in this dang show! It's just that ever since I joined this site, I've been trying to spread the G1 love! Keep up the good work! There needs to be more love... most people don't seem to hate it, but they just have this attitude where they don't want old stuff brought back, even though a good portion of the characters are from G1 or based off of G1, and a lot of the plots are too. 2 #bringbackmerriwetherwillaims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 June 9, 2014 Author Share June 9, 2014 Back on topic, I once again find the amount of plot lines to be incredibly similar. NMM is honestly more like Tirek(G1), with her eternal night schtick and status as being the first villain to taste the rainbow "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainblow H. Ash 5,091 June 9, 2014 Share June 9, 2014 I just had a goofy thought because of what you said: what if Tirek, since he's in Tartarus and it's like dark and hot down there, gets attacked by a living lava monster, and it fuses with him to make Lavan? I don't know why that randomly popped into my head. #bringbackmerriwetherwillaims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rarity Paige Belle 1,854 June 9, 2014 Share June 9, 2014 I just had a goofy thought because of what you said: what if Tirek, since he's in Tartarus and it's like dark and hot down there, gets attacked by a living lava monster, and it fuses with him to make Lavan? I don't know why that randomly popped into my head. I don't think Tartarus is like hell though, is it? The ancients actually believed that Tartarus was a cold place. Beautiful, Stylish, Fabulous AND evil! What more could you want? (Thanks Kyoshi for letting everyone use your sigs!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainblow H. Ash 5,091 June 9, 2014 Share June 9, 2014 I don't think Tartarus is like hell though, is it? The ancients actually believed that Tartarus was a cold place. Even better: Lavan is a frozen crystal demon from Tartarus and fuses with Tirek to go and absorb power. 1 #bringbackmerriwetherwillaims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 June 9, 2014 Author Share June 9, 2014 Tartarus in MLP seemed mostly just a dank and boring place. Which is torture in and of itself, ultimate boredom for eternity 2 "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainblow H. Ash 5,091 June 9, 2014 Share June 9, 2014 Tartarus in MLP seemed mostly just a dank and boring place. Which is torture in and of itself, ultimate boredom for eternity Did you say dank? Hydia and her daughters confirmed for G4. 2 #bringbackmerriwetherwillaims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 June 9, 2014 Author Share June 9, 2014 Did you say dank? Hydia and her daughters confirmed for G4. That would actually be a very easy place to call up the G1 villains, saying they were trapped in Tartarus Hell, they actually have a perfect set up for Arabus with the Pony of Shadows. Before you ask, Arabus is basically a cloud of smoke that eats your shadow and powers up in that fashion. Yeah, lots of the G1 villains were power drainers, but in Arabus's case, if he was in G4, they could have him be the Pony of Shadows and take your shadow. In some cultures, your shadow is your soul 1 "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainblow H. Ash 5,091 June 10, 2014 Share June 10, 2014 That would actually be a very easy place to call up the G1 villains, saying they were trapped in Tartarus Hell, they actually have a perfect set up for Arabus with the Pony of Shadows. Before you ask, Arabus is basically a cloud of smoke that eats your shadow and powers up in that fashion. Yeah, lots of the G1 villains were power drainers, but in Arabus's case, if he was in G4, they could have him be the Pony of Shadows and take your shadow. In some cultures, your shadow is your soul It's gonna be a jail break! G1 villains loose all over Equestria! That would be a perfect situation for what you were talking about before though where all of the Mane Six have a villain they have to contend with. You know, about the Pony of Shadows... I'm not sure about it, but I've seen people say that the Pony of Shadows they showed at the end of "Castlemania" was actually Tirek in his robe. I don't buy that, though. I haven't seen Arabus before, but he would definitely seem like a fitting guy if he really is a shadow stealer. Even if a lot of them having a "draining power" gimmick, as long as it's different for each of them I don't mind it all that much. 1 #bringbackmerriwetherwillaims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 June 10, 2014 Author Share June 10, 2014 @, Also note worthy in that he has a zebra for an assistant 1 "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainblow H. Ash 5,091 June 10, 2014 Share June 10, 2014 @, Also note worthy in that he has a zebra for an assistant Dude, thanks for showing me that! I saw a picture not too long ago with that Zebra assistant guy in it, and I was wondering who the heck he was. Bringing Arabus in then would be double awesome, since he would fit with the Pony of Shadows gimmick, and you could have another Zebra finally appear on the show as his assistant. You could even involve Zecora into the whole mix as well. 1 #bringbackmerriwetherwillaims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 June 10, 2014 Author Share June 10, 2014 @, Yes, seeing another zebra would allow for some lore on where Zebras come from(maybe Arabus is from the zebra land?) and would give Zecora a nice episode to focus on 1 "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainblow H. Ash 5,091 June 10, 2014 Share June 10, 2014 @, Yes, seeing another zebra would allow for some lore on where Zebras come from(maybe Arabus is from the zebra land?) and would give Zecora a nice episode to focus on Actually, that would be pretty cool! Like you said, maybe Arabus is also from where the Zebras come from, and he could be like part of a legend of her homeland or something, giving us some more backstory. Plus, maybe we learn something more about Zebras by having another Zebra on the show. Zecora and other Zebras have been just super mysterious in general, just like the Griffons, so it would be nice to get some backstory on them. If they brought Arabus into G4 as the Pony of Shadows... do you think he would be an actual pony, or that he just takes the form of a pony and can transform into a gaseous form like he was in G1? 1 #bringbackmerriwetherwillaims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 June 10, 2014 Author Share June 10, 2014 @, I think it's better if he's just a cloud of smoke and the "Pony" part of his name was just part of the urban legends surrounding him. Maybe he'd shift into a pony form, but he'd take on his cloud form more often 1 "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainblow H. Ash 5,091 June 10, 2014 Share June 10, 2014 @, I think it's better if he's just a cloud of smoke and the "Pony" part of his name was just part of the urban legends surrounding him. Maybe he'd shift into a pony form, but he'd take on his cloud form more often Another random thought inspired by you: what if Arabus was once a pony, but he tried to invade the homeland of the Zebras, and so they cursed him so that he couldn't survive in direct sunlight and he needed to hide under a cloak to survive? Maybe he's stealing shadows so that he can be strong enough to survive in the sun or something. #bringbackmerriwetherwillaims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 June 10, 2014 Author Share June 10, 2014 Another random thought inspired by you: what if Arabus was once a pony, but he tried to invade the homeland of the Zebras, and so they cursed him so that he couldn't survive in direct sunlight and he needed to hide under a cloak to survive? Maybe he's stealing shadows so that he can be strong enough to survive in the sun or something. That would also be very interesting, especially if his assistant (Zeb) ends up being the one to help him. Better yet, he is cursed to become a puff of smoke and is unable to interact with things due to being intangible, save shadows. Zeb tells him he needs to eat shadows to be able to touch things again and there you go 1 "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainblow H. Ash 5,091 June 10, 2014 Share June 10, 2014 That would also be very interesting, especially if his assistant (Zeb) ends up being the one to help him. Better yet, he is cursed to become a puff of smoke and is unable to interact with things due to being intangible, save shadows. Zeb tells him he needs to eat shadows to be able to touch things again and there you go The Zebra's name is Zeb? Well, I guess it's fitting... always sucks to be named kinda after your race though! Zecora: Out of the shadows, born from Arabus's web, comes the doom and gloom of the one called Zeb. That sounds even better to me. It actually is fitting too: the Zebras decide to curse him so that he can't touch anything so that he can never hurt anyone ever again. It's a punishment that fits the crime. 1 #bringbackmerriwetherwillaims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 June 10, 2014 Author Share June 10, 2014 (edited) The Zebra's name is Zeb? Well, I guess it's fitting... always sucks to be named kinda after your race though! He does wear a suit, makes up for it Zecora: Out of the shadows, born from Arabus's web, comes the doom and gloom of the one called Zeb "And so he was turned to shadow, never to hurt anyone again. But the one called Zeb now helps him to continue his campaign That sounds even better to me. It actually is fitting too: the Zebras decide to curse him so that he can't touch anything so that he can never hurt anyone ever again. It's a punishment that fits the crime. Yeah, can't touch anyone so he can't hurt anyone Another interesting G1 villain would be Crunch the Rockdog, basically a giant bulldog made of rocks. His story is that he was created to protect a Heart Stone...but his master made one mistake, creating him without a heart and as such, unable to feel anything but hatred Edited June 10, 2014 by Evil Dragon Master 1 "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainblow H. Ash 5,091 June 10, 2014 Share June 10, 2014 He does wear a suit, makes up for it "And so he was turned to shadow, never to hurt anyone again. But the one called Zeb now helps him to continue his campaign Yeah, can't touch anyone so he can't hurt anyone Another interesting G1 villain would be Crunch the Rockdog, basically a giant bulldog made of rocks. His story is that he was created to protect a Heart Stone...but his master made one mistake, creating him without a heart and as such, unable to feel anything but hatred True, he does emanate unbelievable levels of swag, so I can't hate too hard. "Guard your shadow closely with a watchful gaze, or Arabus will eat it like fresh cut corn maize." Now Crunch I actually know about, as I've watched clips of him before. Now that you bring him up, I think he might actually work for Fluttershy if she had to face a villain; her heart's filled with kindness, his with hatred, that kind of thing. Maybe you could even bring back the Diamond Dogs somehow since Crunch is a rock dog. I'm trying to weave in as many villains together as possible here! 1 #bringbackmerriwetherwillaims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 June 10, 2014 Author Share June 10, 2014 @, Like the Diamond Dogs are mining and then they hit something hard, thus wakening Crunch from his slumber and prompting him to crash around, declaring them soft and weak. Worth noting that the way Crunch was defeated actually fits Fluttershy incredibly well He's given a heart so he can feel and is thus reformed 1 "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainblow H. Ash 5,091 June 10, 2014 Share June 10, 2014 @, Like the Diamond Dogs are mining and then they hit something hard, thus wakening Crunch from his slumber and prompting him to crash around, declaring them soft and weak. Worth noting that the way Crunch was defeated actually fits Fluttershy incredibly well He's given a heart so he can feel and is thus reformed That sounds like a great way to introduce him and give the Diamond Dogs another chance to show up! Perhaps the Diamond Dogs come and beg the Mane Six for help, and Fluttershy is the only one who can save them thanks to her giving him a heart. Obviously she just sacrifices Angel's heart and gives it to him. Score one for the Element of Kindness. 1 #bringbackmerriwetherwillaims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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