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A Reflection On Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Fans To Changes and Reboots


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This was originally typed as a response to the following blog post by Rockin Rarity

 

http://mlpforums.com/blog/255/entry-12464-sailor-moons-comeback-a-fan-reaction-to-fan-reactions/

 

 

I have been a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles fan since I was 6 years old and the reaction of Sailor Moon fans to this kind of reminds me of the reactions of some Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles fans to the classic cartoon. The original comic was very dark, gritty and often fairly violent in one of the earliest issues Leonardo decapitated The Shredder. And it also dealt with a lot of philosophical issues and references that are decidedly mature.

 

When the classic cartoon came out some of them thought it sort of spit on the legacy of the turtles by dumbing it down and making it too kiddy. To be fair some of their concerns were a bit understandable even as someone who grew up with the classic cartoon and still enjoys it to this day but it did blind them to the actual positive qualities of it causing some of them to not even give it a chance. It was different from the original comics in many ways but one thing it did have was the comics multiple parodies of different comic book, movie and pop culture parodies and kept the vigilante character Casey Jones faithful to his original comics version even if they had to tone down his more violent tendencies.

 

Fast forward to the last couple of season and the classic cartoon took a darker turn that many fans dub as the "red sky arc" that many fans of the rest of the series hated and didn't give the time of day and while I agree that the change was jarring and could have used some plot development to ease us into it it did have its positive qualities. It had some great storylines and presented some of the same mature philosophical themes that the original comics touched upon and for the most part did them well. It had a feel to it that reminded me of Xmen with the turtles saving people and doing good deeds but people being afraid of them and hating them for being different which also presented some good opportunities to teach that it is okay to be different. Though I will admit I missed the corny humor of the other seasons.

 

In 2003 this happened again with the "TMNT" cartoon which combined the darker themes of the original comics and the lighter side of the classic cartoon quite well. Some fans of the classic cartoon didn't give it the time of day but a lot of comics fans loved it because it was closer to the original comics. When I found out about this reboot I had the biggest fangasm ever and ended up liking it just as much as the classic cartoon and it introduced my favorite villain of the entire franchise Tengu/Demon Shredder who was the real and original Shredder who tormented imperial Japan centuries ago and of course came back.

 

In 2012 another reboot came along and I like what I see so far but do like the classic and 2003 cartoons better for reasons I won't get into. I will say that I love their version of the Rat King and Krang. I have noticed this same trend though with some fans not willing to give it the time of day one of them being the same friend who told me about the 2003 reboot who is interesingly enough the same guy who introduced me to ponies.

 

I know my wall o text isn't about Sailor Moon but I thought I would bring this up because it is relevent and shows that these sorts of reactions are not unique to one fandom.

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I started out being a turtles fan thanks to the 2003 series. It was the first animated series where I saw a decapitation, characters dying, and grotesque imagery from a failed cloning experiment. I still need to read the Mirage comics, but I do like how the 2003 series adapted them. Fast Forward and Back to the Sewers completely ruined the series for me, and it's a shame that it ended that way.

The 80's/90's turtles show is a show I more appreciate than I do like. Yeah, it may be too corny for me to really get into, but aspects like Splinter being a human before turning into a rat is something I preferred over the original origin.

The 2012 series is the best of both worlds for me. It has good action like 2003 and the comedy of the old series, but the comedy is more refined, and the show knows when or when not to take itself seriously. I also like how they're establishing the "Teenage" part of the turtles, because with the exception of Mikey and maybe Raph, none of them really acted like teenagers. I also love what they did with Leo in the series. He was just a bland character at first, but they really helped making Leo more than just a character who gives orders. Donnie's relationship with April adds more to the socially awkward part of Donatello, which helps because not only is Donnie my favorite turtle, and this makes me relate to him more, but it's also the most logical for Donnie to be in love with someone he can't really do anything with, if you know what I mean. :P 

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I started out being a turtles fan thanks to the 2003 series. It was the first animated series where I saw a decapitation, characters dying, and grotesque imagery from a failed cloning experiment.

The cloning expiriment was a reference to the original comics actually, The Shredder was originally intended to be killed off but he was so popular that it was retconned that the Shredder that was decapitated was actually a clone of the real Shredder. The turtles eventually had to face other Shredder clones and the real Shredder, there are some subtle references to this with Tengu Shreddder calling himself "the one true Shredder" which he indeed was.

 

 

Fast Forward and Back to the Sewers completely ruined the series for me, and it's a shame that it ended that way.

The sad thing is they were made as a knee jerk reaction to the really dark themes of the Tengu Shredder arc. 4 Kids who was involved with the creation of the cartoon felt that they went a bit far with that one which is why it took a while for the Tengu Shredder arc to actually air. I am going to definetely agree that Fast Forward and Back to the Sewers was a step backwards. There was a few good things and a couple of things that had potential but overall it felt very rushed to me and makes me think that the Tengu Shredder arc should have been saved for the series finale because after that stuff like that don't really even begin to compare.

 

 

I also love what they did with Leo in the series. He was just a bland character at first, but they really helped making Leo more than just a character who gives orders.

I really started to like Leo during the 2003 series because was saw him at his most vulnerable state. We saw him have doubts, lose his cool and even lose his mind. We saw him overcome fears and challenges, we saw a human side to him that before that was only present in the original comics.

 

 

Donnie's relationship with April adds more to the socially awkward part of Donatello, which helps because not only is Donnie my favorite turtle

Donatello has always been my favorite turtle though Raphael comes in a very close 2nd. I always thought it was really cool that he knew kickass ninja moves and could make gadgets.

 

What I mainly don't like about the 2012 series is their depiction of Michaelangello, he seems kind of stupid kind of really stupid and way too two dimensional. His doofus side is present in nearly every incarnation of him but I think they turn it up way too much in this one.

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Mikey never really annoyed me in the 2012 series, but then again, I don't really get annoyed with characters like Mikey, but I will agree that this isn't my favorite version of him.

Yeah, Leo had a lot of dimension in him in the 2003, especially in Season 4 after he thinks he failed his family.

The cloning thing was about Baxter Stockman, in the episode "Insane in the Membrane," one of the most fucked up episodes of any animated series out there in my opinion. 

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The cloning thing was about Baxter Stockman, in the episode "Insane in the Membrane," one of the most fucked up episodes of any animated series out there in my opinion. 

I know, I saw that but I am saying that that episode was indeed a reference to the Shredder clones in the comic even if the clone in question was Baxter Stockman instead of the Shredder.

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