season of Fluttershy's Character development!

[Bolt the Super-Pony 62]

There's so much character development and at such a fast rate that I'm now starting to feel like most of it's actually out of character for Fluttershy.

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1) So basically, you have no argument to refute any of his claims and most likely can't, so you're just going to make up something on the spot and say "Oh his feelings are just hurt because blah blah blah".

 

Sir, if you don't do anything to refute his arguments any statements you make against him are invalid.

 

2) There's a difference between character flaws and being written badly.

 

Let me give you an example

 

Twilight having anxiety issues and Fluttershy being shy is a character flaw. And they've been slowly overcoming those flaws over time by learning lessons that help them overcome that flaw.

 

Rarity and Applejack bickering like 5 year olds for the entire night at Twilight's House, that's just being very childish and Twilight not noticing it and going "hmmm...this is not in the book?" is just being an idiot.

 

The Mane Six showing up at Trixie's Magic show and then berating her and eventually driving her out of town for DOING HER JOB (being and entertainer) is just being an asshole and it's written badly for portraying the Mane 6 as the "good guys" when they were just antagonistic as all hell.

 

Do refrain from making up any statements. A Mary Sue is a character who is unrealistically perfect in every way possible. The person I quoted NEVER said that Mary Sues are ideal characters. But if you are referring to my post in the Discord thread where I mentioned Jerry Peet then you obviously didn't read my post right. I said that I, VERY RELUCTANTLY, agree that the term Mary Sue has become fancy internet speak for "character I don't like." and that's the only thing bout his video that agree with, the rest of the video is full of flawed logic and generalized insulting statements which I heavily disagree with. For example he believes there is no such thing as a Mary Sue, I on the other hand believe there is such a thing as a Mary Sue just the term is being misused.

 

 

 

Yep, you're definitely making up BS and haven't seen any of the other gens.

 

For starters Gen 1 had Villains attacking them on a regular daily basis with plenty of 80's cheese. FiM

 

Gen 1.5 was pretty much real life just with Ponies. FiM has plenty of fantasy elements to them and don't have the 

 

There was no cartoon for G2. Please do some research before making an argument.

 

Gen 3 and 3.5 was just plotless garbage that lacked conflict, the driving element of a story. FiM throughout all seasons had conflict, a problem to solve, developed characters, lessons learned so on and so forth.

If you think clearly there is nothing to refute. The quote you gave was a guy telling what he thinks is good writing but when people say there is good writing and bad writing that can easily be studded with bias from the person stating what is a good and bad writing. And if anything I already told you this guy hated how the characters were flawed that's his idea of bad writing "flawed characters is a sign of bad writing..." which is strange because there are works that do have flawed characters and those are good stories. Make up a statement? This is from analysis from the quote you have given which you did not reiterate into your line of thinking.

 

 

 

Over a Barrel lacked the same subtlety as Bridle Gossip with the Indian attire of the Buffalo. Pinkie was an idiot, and contributed to multiple problems in this episode, similar to how people got mad at her in Filli Vanilli.

 

Here's an example. Simply Pinkie was an idiot. So she was supposed to know everything on how to fix the problems from the getgo? I highly doubt the writer of this would be in the same case if he was involved with the problems then as well.

 

He was really reaching a lot on what he thinks is bad writing. So make it so all the characters knew how to solve every problem and not create more conflicts? Geez that sounds very Mary Sue.

 

And how I'm saying it's becoming like G1-2 is saying that the characters are becoming less flawed and that sets up for the "Mary Sue" idea that you think the definition means whereas for me a Mary Sue is someone that has more power than others. Also if you look back at his quote he was complaining at the lack of manners and etiqu

 

Mary Sue is fancy internet speak for character I don't like? Why would you end it that way you cannot analyze what I was speaking of Discord? If I just said "I don't like Discord just because" then you can say that's fancy way of saying character I don't like but what I've done is separated his character from his abilities and was talking about his abilities but you cannot see this so I don't know if I can take you seriously when you say you know something.

Edited May 27, 2015 by cidershield

[Grepper 3,193]

I'm glad to see Fluttershy develop as a character, but I don't know how much I'll relate to her anymore if she ends up losing all vestiges of shyness.

 

Her other main unique trait is that she cares for animals; I'm not an animal lover, so I can't relate to her in that respect.

[colt_following 169]

In my opinion, I dislike how Fluttershy is changing. I see what you mean though, but I just find her unrelatable anymore. I liked how she was timid and often afraid to do things. I dunno. she just seems very different now and not the same pony I loved. :c

 I was thinking the EXACT same thing!! I liked her because her shyness and apprehension was really a core part of her character in the earlier seasons! And now, it makes her more bland. Shoot, SHY is in her NAME. 

I think I want her to be the nice, adorable, shy, unwilling Fluttershy we knew before.

 

I mean, I knew she'd have to change but she thus far has changed too much in too many aspects for me to love/hate her the way I used to. She's rather bland now, I guess. She can be aggressive, I feel like she was a bit mean to Discord in that recent episode.

[Notomi 66]

 I was thinking the EXACT same thing!! I liked her because her shyness and apprehension was really a core part of her character in the earlier seasons! And now, it makes her more bland. Shoot, SHY is in her NAME. 

I think I want her to be the nice, adorable, shy, unwilling Fluttershy we knew before.

 

I mean, I knew she'd have to change but she thus far has changed too much in too many aspects for me to love/hate her the way I used to. She's rather bland now, I guess. She can be aggressive, I feel like she was a bit mean to Discord in that recent episode.

 

YUS! Like I'd have never thought Fluttershy would have acted that way towards Discord or anyone in the slightest. It just doesn't seem like her at all. :c I just really miss old Fluttershy.