Sunset Shimmer's Timeline

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The following occured to me while commenting on a YouTube vid regarding how old Sunset is, and what happened to her human counterpart

 

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Is it actually mentioned in the movies that Sunset was a student of Celestia before Twilight? The age thing makes much more sense (along with how Sunset knows about Twi and her crown) if Sunset was Celestia's new student after Twilght moved to Ponyville. We didn't see a whole lot of what was going on with Celestia in Canterlot during the first few seasons, and she could have started mentoring another Pony after Twi had moved away and was only sending letters

That would mean they could easily be the same age, and that Pony Sunset hasn't been in the human world all that long. Also Canterlot High in the movies is populated with mostly students who are ponies from Ponyville, and since Pony Sunset is not orignally from Ponyville as far as we know, her human counterpart may well attend a different school

[PoisonClaw 8,166]

When you think about, the entire timeframe of Equestria Girls makes no sense unless there's some wibbly wobbly time shenanigans involved.

 

For one, the show has established that the first three season from Nightmare Moon's return to Twilight's ascension took place over the course of a single year (which I disagree with but that's neither here nor there) while the movies established that Sunset spent at least three years in the human world judging by the fact that she's won the last three Fall Formals, implying that unless the portal had opened previously after Sunset passed through it then the "thirty moons" equates to three years give or take. Course, what a "moon" constitutes has still yet to be defined since AJ said her family reunions take place every "100 moons". 

 

My point basically was that it would have been next to impossible for Sunset to have become Celestia's student following Twilight's move to Ponyville. The only way this makes any kind of sense (and my personal headcanon) is that two worlds aren't temporally linked. Months could pass in one world while only a few weeks pass in another, that sort of thing. Course, then you factor in the fact that Sunset was a full grown mare when she left and arrived as a teenager whereas Twilight was a young filly who likely was Celestia's student for possibly close to a decade and arrived as roughly the same age and then things really get confusing. 

Edited December 20, 2015 by PoisonClaw

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The 3 fall formals was the kind of info I was looking for. I couldn't remember if there was anything in the movie that actually gave indication of how long Sunset had been in the human world.

 

So yeah, it's a timeline that doesn't make sense either way, because if Sunset was a student prior to Twilight, she should be a lot older. Even if time passed at different rates in each world, for the difference to be enough to keep Sunset roughly the same age as Twilight, we would have to work on the basis that a whole bunch of time passed in Equestria each time Twilight was in the Human world, and that didn't seem the case.

 

I did think that perhaps a few years passed between the start of season 1 and end of season 3

A few boring years where nothing happened and no episodes were made about them lol. But if it was established in show that Twi's ascension took place in one year, that doesn't work either. Although I can't recall specifically how that was established? (not doubting it, I just don't know/remember)

Edited December 20, 2015 by BPCannon

[PoisonClaw 8,166]

I did think that perhaps a few years passed between the start of season 1 and end of season 3

A few boring years where nothing happened and no episodes were made about them lol. But if it was established in show that Twi's ascension took place in one year, that doesn't work either. Although I can't recall specifically how that was established? (not doubting it, I just don't know/remember)

 

Two things to my knowledge imply that little more than a year has passed in-universe. The first is Celestia saying that she's actually looking forward to the Summer Sun Celebration for a change in "Princess Twilight Sparkle" now that Luna is back. The second is in "Tanks's For The Memories", where Rainbow Dash says that this is her and Tank's first winter together, so at the very least months have passed since "May the Best Pet Win."

 

Plus, and I could be wrong on this part, I think it was said that the Gala in "Make New Friends, But Keep Discord" was the first Gala held since the one in "The Best Night Ever", which is a yearly event.

Edited December 20, 2015 by PoisonClaw

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The truth must be that they just didn't think about Sunset's age and her timeline very well. But if I wanted to try really hard to make it work in my own head I could probably convince myself that after Luna had been away for 1000 years, Celestia would probably find it a change to enjoy the Celebration for several years, and just never had the chance to explain it to Twilight before. When she says "but now it has become a wonderful reminder of her transformation back into Princess Luna" she could easily be referring to what the celebration has been for the past few years. Which would just mean that the time must have passed between Twilight moving to Ponyville and the May The Best Pet Win episode

 

Probably the best option is to just not think about it

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The following occured to me while commenting on a YouTube vid regarding how old Sunset is, and what happened to her human counterpart

 

Copy/Pasting myself v

 

Is it actually mentioned in the movies that Sunset was a student of Celestia before Twilight? The age thing makes much more sense (along with how Sunset knows about Twi and her crown) if Sunset was Celestia's new student after Twilght moved to Ponyville. We didn't see a whole lot of what was going on with Celestia in Canterlot during the first few seasons, and she could have started mentoring another Pony after Twi had moved away and was only sending letters

That would mean they could easily be the same age, and that Pony Sunset hasn't been in the human world all that long. Also Canterlot High in the movies is populated with mostly students who are ponies from Ponyville, and since Pony Sunset is not orignally from Ponyville as far as we know, her human counterpart may well attend a different school

Hi, as this thread is about Sunset Shimmer it has been moved to the Equestria Girls forum.

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All I know is Sunset was a student of Celestia's before Twilight which would mean Sunset is older than Twilight plus I recall seeing in the comic that explains Sunset's backstory that behind Sunset in one panel is a filly Twilight with Shining Armor and Cadance.

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So yeah, it's a timeline that doesn't make sense either way, because if Sunset was a student prior to Twilight, she should be a lot older. Even if time passed at different rates in each world, for the difference to be enough to keep Sunset roughly the same age as Twilight, we would have to work on the basis that a whole bunch of time passed in Equestria each time Twilight was in the Human world, and that didn't seem the case.

 

 

 

I like to think that 30 moons = 2,5 years (or 1 moon = 1 month).

 

So, if there should not be a time difference between the two worlds, I say that Sunset is at least 5 years and at best 10 years in the human world.

Why? Because I do not think that Spike is younger than 5 years old (he seems to be born shortly after Sunset run away) and more than 10 years seem too long to me.

Actually, even 10 years seem a bit too long. What the heck was she doing all this time? 

And Spike seems older than 5 years. So I go with the only option left: 7,5 years

Some may  that this is also too long, but if you consider that Sunset is a smart woman/mare and maybe took the first year (or the first few years) for getting use to her new body, studying the humans behavior and culture (so that she would not be conspicuous) and finding a place to live, it does not seem that long anymore.

And as for the other years...I would say maybe she went to a middle school first. I mean, if all schools are like CHS, when it comes to check their students, that would be a piece of cake.  

 

 

But actually, I like to think that there is in fact a little time difference, even though something like that got never mentioned:

 

1 year in the human world = 2 years in Equestria

 

In that way Sunset could be in the human world for only 5 years , but gone  from Equestria for 10 years.

Plus, it would not have that much of an impact if Twilight visits the human world for a few hours or even days. She would not even have been gone for a week in EQG(1).

Edited January 16, 2016 by Fluidty