Chrysalis bad future discussion. Fill in the holes?

[TheMarkz0ne 962]

Wanted to have fun with my favorite alternate universe in the S5 finale. I was letdown for how short it was and I am having all the more fun filling in what happened before Twilight arrived in the alternate reality. Some points I wish to debate with you all.. Or just help me come up with good theories. 

 

Ignoring the continuity of Nightmare Moon not ruling Equestria without the EOH to stop here, what actions spurred Chrysalis to succeed? 

 

The wedding I think still would have happened between Cadence and Shining Armor. I wiill even get more creative and state that Sunset Shimmer never left Celestia and Luna was reformed by Celestia and Sunset when Nightmare Moon returned. Twilight Sparkle never met Rainbow, Rarity, Pinkie, AJ or Fluttershy.. So Twilight became Sunset's student... Because Celestia wishes to test Sunset's abilities as Equestria's future role... Notice how I interchanged Twilight/Starlight.. with Sunset/Twilight.

 

Chrysalis succeeds because the marriage went to fruition. Sunset eases Twilight's suspicions about Cadence's odd behavior. Cadence's whereabouts are unknown to everyone.. She might still be in the caves below Canterlot.

 

After the wedding, Chrysalis orders her army to remain hidden. Chrysalis realizes she will need to absorb more love to handle both Celestia and Luna. She goes around feeding for weeks off Shining Armor and other ponies. Later Celestia and Luna are dethroned.. Canterlot has become a changeling territory. 

 

What cities fell after?

 

Chrysalis after establishing her throne in Canterlot as Queen. Chrysalis banishes Celestia and Luna to the deepest dungeons of Canterlot, where Chrysalis's elite guards are present. Chrysalis feeds off them by hypnosis and changing her appearances to Celestia/Luna to deceive the two sisters into a state of false love. In the course of several months.. Fillydelphia, Manehattan, Baltimare(during a convention...hahahaha bad joke) fall easily.. Ponyville wasn't even an issue. Chrysalis in my mind would have taken Equestria in 7 months... The royal guard remnants tried their best for their fallen Celestia and Luna. 

 

Sunset and Twilight's whereabouts?

 

Twilight Sparkle was inexperienced at this point in time. Chrysalis instead of disposing of Twilight, had seen amazing potential in the young unicorn and Chrysalis decided to brainwash Twilight into her pawn/apprentice. 

 

Sunset Shimmer, after nearly escaping with her life, failed  to defeat Chrysalis. With Sunset's remaining energy, she decided that she had to let Equestria go, it was too late to save. She could at least save the human world(mirror). She decided to exile herself to the human world as a high school girl... She then would destroy the gateway back home.. To prevent Chrysalis from invading yet another defenseless world. Sunset lives her life full of regret.. She wishes she could have saved her mentors and her young student Twilight Sparkle.. 

 

 

Any other points we wish to discuss? I brought up a few.

[Jeric 46,871]

No EoH. Nightmare Moon returns and rules. She moves the Discord statue to prevent his release. The resistance is approached by Chrysalis who helps them fight Nightmare Moon. During the climactic battle Cadance is injured. As Shining stands over her body battle worn body he tells her she must live to lead, and declares his love. Sensing this power, Chrysalis betrays them by absorbing her love and uses it to defeat Nightmare Moon. This act was witnessed by Zecora who warns the survivors to leave and take shelter ... thus the Dawn of Chrysalis begins with the death of the Night.

[TheMarkz0ne 962]

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No EoH. Nightmare Moon returns and rules. She moves the Discord statue to prevent his release. The resistance is approached by Chrysalis who helps them fight Nightmare Moon. During the climactic battle Cadance is injured. As Shining stands over her body battle worn body he tells her she must live to lead, and declares his love. Sensing this power, Chrysalis betrays them by absorbing her love and uses it to defeat Nightmare Moon. This act was witnessed by Zecora who warns the survivors to leave and take shelter ... thus the Dawn of Chrysalis begins with the death of the Night.

That's m biggest issue with the season 5 finale.. Logically Nightmare Moon's future is the only one that could work. In order for the other villain's timeline's to even exist.. Some failures must come from Nightmare Moon's short rule. I actually like your theory. I wanted to include Sunset Shimmer in mine because I think in an alternate reality she wouldn't have left Celestia.

[Jeric 46,871]

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That's m biggest issue with the season 5 finale.. Logically Nightmare Moon's future is the only one that could work. In order for the other villain's timeline's to even exist.. Some failures must come from Nightmare Moon's short rule. I actually like your theory. I wanted to include Sunset Shimmer in mine because I think in an alternate reality she wouldn't have left Celestia.

 

 

The only flaw would be Celestia's banishment ... does it end because Nightmare Moon is defeated? What if it ended the banishment spell and then Chrysalis imprisons Celestia. Trying to factor in Sunny would be tricky, but the movie didn't care about how she found out about the EoH, so I can assume the same way she found out about that ... she found out about the rule. Would she see this as an opportunity to lead and ascend? It fits. Perhaps she winds up in Equestria and sets up a separate resistance not wanting to take orders from Zecora. At one point she gets Rarity, Rainbow, and AJ to help her try and free Celestia, which fails. Wow, Talk about an amount of wars that would even make freaking England of the 18th/19th Century blush. 

 

Trying to tie in all this is a mental hurdle. :|

 

Especially fun if you add up an envoy going to Yakyakistan asking for help and getting war declared on them in the process. 

 

Yak War vs Chrysalis Swarm vs Ponies would be fun 

[TheMarkz0ne 962]

The only flaw would be Celestia's banishment ... does it end because Nightmare Moon is defeated? What if it ended the banishment spell and then Chrysalis imprisons Celestia. Trying to factor in Sunny would be tricky, but the movie didn't care about how she found out about the EoH, so I can assume the same way she found out about that ... she found out about the rule. Would she see this as an opportunity to lead and ascend? It fits. Perhaps she winds up in Equestria and sets up a separate resistance not wanting to take orders from Zecora. At one point she gets Rarity, Rainbow, and AJ to help her try and free Celestia, which fails. Wow, Talk about an amount of wars that would even make freaking England of the 18th/19th Century blush. 

 

Trying to tie in all this is a mental hurdle. :|

 

Especially fun if you add up an envoy going to Yakyakistan asking for help and getting war declared on them in the process. 

 

Yak War vs Chrysalis Swarm vs Ponies would be fun 

I imagine Chrysalis would decide to stop for a good amount of years after a successful Equestrian conquest. Chrysalis becomes the Empress of the Changeling Hive Order. I think the Yaks and Griffons would form an alliance with a pony resistance(Zecora's army) to fight off the powerful Empress and her changelings. 

[Jackie Snack 1,498]

Nothing is gonna fill the holes in those legs of hers, I'm sorry to say.