Sunset Shimmer might be Twilight's alternate reality self *SPOILER*

[Commander_PonyShep 349]

And I don't mean what she symbolically represented in the movie, based on the leaked images I just saw.

 

The box containing Sunset said that she was originally one of Princess Celestia's students.  However, when I saw photos of Sunset winning previous prom queen pageants, it turned out that she wasn't, and that she was an inhabitant of the human-world all along, who wanted Twilight's Element of Magic to enslave humanity.  Also, "Sunset" is the moment between night and day like the word "Twilight", while "Shimmer" denotes light like "Sparkle".

 

Based on these assumptions, I'm guessing the reason why the human-world didn't have an alternate reality Twilight the same way it did alternate versions of her friends, is because Sunset Shimmer is Twilight's alternate self, as well as what would've happened to Twilight had she not learned the values of friendship.  Again, "Sunset" is between night and day like "Twilight", while "Shimmer" denotes shining a bright light like "Sparkle".  Therefore, Sunset Shimmer is Twilight's alternate self, just with a more cruel streak.

Edited June 13, 2013 by Commander_PonyShep

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We still don't know if there is really no human world version of Twilight.

I think they just picked that name to clarify the contrast between both. Some kind of "evil" counterpart.

And why is everypony else so close to their human/pony counterparts then? That would make only very little sense then.

The only thing I see right now that speaks for your theory is the fact that they could have named her something with "Dawn" in it. It would have been a stronger contrast than just to "recycle" Twilight's name.

[Commander_PonyShep 349]

We still don't know if there is really no human world version of Twilight.

I think they just picked that name to clarify the contrast between both. Some kind of "evil" counterpart.

And why is everypony else so close to their human/pony counterparts then? That would make only very little sense then.

The only thing I see right now that speaks for your theory is the fact that they could have named her something with "Dawn" in it. It would have been a stronger contrast than just to "recycle" Twilight's name.

The pony world had no ponified equivalent of Sunset Shimmer, either, and the ponified Sunset we saw in the trailer was actually the human who turned into a pony when she entered Twilight's world to steal her Element of Magic.  So how can everypony have a humanized counterpart, but neither Twilight nor Sunset herself?

 

Sunset's lack of her own ponified counterpart in Twilight's world is another explanation as to why Sunset was Twilight's humanized double, just more evil.

Edited June 13, 2013 by Commander_PonyShep

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Wow . For my speculation this is strange . Another information I got from sunset shimmer is that she was the former student of Princess Celestia (via Equestria Daily). Another thing is twilight and sunset are like yin and yang or black and white (This explains why sunset's color was light and twilight's color is dark). ANOTHER THING IS That  Sunset's cutie mark was the sun almost similar to Princess Celestia and twilight's Fur and mane is as close to Luna.

Sunset and Twilight for me is like RIVAL PRINCESSES .

Edited June 13, 2013 by Lyeco

[Commander_PonyShep 349]

wow. For my speculation this is strange. Another information I got from sunset shimmer is that she was the former student of Princess Celestia (via Equestria Daily). Another thing is twilight and sunset are like yin and yang or black and white (This explains why sunset's color was light and twilight's color is dark). ANOTHER THING IS That  Sunset's cutie mark was the sun almost similar to Princess Celestia and twilight's skin is as close to luna.

Sunset and Twilight for me is like RIVAL PRINCESSES    

I've already mentioned this, but in the trailer, there were photos of Sunset Shimmer when she won previous prom queen pageants.  This implies that Sunset is actually an inhabitant of the human-world, and that the box containing her figurine wasn't accurate.

 

And, as I said, Sunset had no ponified counterpart in Equestria the same way Twilight had no humanized counterpart herself.  Therefore, Sunset is Twilight's humanized self, just more evil.

Edited June 13, 2013 by Commander_PonyShep

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And, as I said, Sunset had no ponified counterpart in Equestria the same way Twilight had no humanized counterpart herself. Therefore, Sunset is Twilight's humanized self, just more evil.

  ........... Hey I already said that SUNSET SHIMMER was former student of Princess CELESTIA. So my point after Princess Celestia is mad at sunset. She maybe transferred to the human to escape from her. So it means that Sunset has experience Human and Pony world......   

[Commander_PonyShep 349]

........... Hey I already said that SUNSET SHIMMER was former student of Princess CELESTIA. So my point after Princess Celestia is mad at sunset. She maybe transferred to the human to escape from her. So it means that Sunset has experience Human and Pony world......

The only way to enter the human world is through the mirror, which was located in the Crystal Empire. If Sunset was once Celestia's student, she would have been unable to enter the mirror, because at the time it vanished with the Crystal Empire. So how else would she enter the human world at that point?

 

This is another point explaining why Sunset was born in the human world, and that the box description was misleading.

[~Rule 63~ Lyeco 527]

The only way to enter the human world is through the mirror, which was located in the Crystal Empire. If Sunset was once Celestia's student, she would have been unable to enter the mirror, because at the time it vanished with the Crystal Empire. So how else would she enter the human world at that point?

 

This is another point explaining why Sunset was born in the human world, and that the box description was misleading.

 

MISLEADING? WTF I DID TONS OF RESEARCH WAYYYYY BEFORE YOU POST THIS.. 

(THOUGH IMG# 2 SAYS IT SUNSHIMMER. ITS HER ORIGINAL NAME. JUST LIKE TWILIGHT'S SPARKLE'S ORIGINAL NAME WOULD BE TWILIGHT VELVET)

(SHE IS ORIGINALLY G3)

 

 

 

[ EVEN I HATE SUNSET SHIMMER TWILIGHT SPARKLE IS BEST PONY]

Edited June 13, 2013 by Lyeco

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@@Commander_PonyShep, You can be right with your theories. Can, not must. But we have to wait for the movie. We still can not say that there is definitely no pony world version of Sunset Shimmer. It can be.

And we don't know how much time there is between the season three opener and the movie. Maybe more than a year.

But still: I think it would be lame to say that everypony has an absolute counterpart except for Twilight. Because the only real reason why it should be that way, is the intention to not confuse the intended audience by sending Twilight in a world where she already exists. What I think is not a good reason.

Edited June 13, 2013 by StatesTheOblivious

[Veylon 255]

Because the only real reason why it should be that way, is the intention to not confuse the intended audience by sending Twilight in a world where she already exists. What I think is not a good reason.

 

This is aimed at the teen market, is it not? They should surely be old enough to understand the implications of the other characters having alternate universe counterparts. It's not like Back to the Future 2 is beyond their mental capabilities. Movies can have a surprisingly low opinion of viewers sometimes.

 

Back to the main point, if we're going with the view that Sunset is originally a human, how'd she get to Equestria in the first place? Wouldn't she be worried that the weird aliens with psychic powers would come after her if she stole their stuff? Why would she even want the crown?

 

I'm actually more of the persuasion that the most sense would be made if there were both a pony Sunset and a human Sunset with the former contacting and teaming up with the latter in a sort of Faustian bargain. Pony ex-student Sunset has her own intentions for the crown and is using the human Sunset to guard it in exchange for keeping her on top in her own High School world.

 

The movie could gradually introduce seemingly unfillable plot holes that drive Twilight crazy until she smacks herself on the forehead and goes "Of course! Everypony has a duplicate here. There's two of them!"

Edited June 13, 2013 by Veylon

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I like how you put spoiler after the spoiler. :x Then again, this is a theory, and not an actual spoiler, so it doesn't much matter.

 

I'm not going to see Equestria Girls, since I'm not interested and it's not coming to Canada as far as I know, but that'd be an interesting turn of events. Perhaps this is the reason that Celestia wanted to send her to the human world. I'm just confused as to why all the others have counterparts as well as she does, doesn't make much sense, unless everyone went all crazy and wnet "ERMAHEGERD HUMINZ LESS GOOOO".

I'm more interested in the possibility of half incest.

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@@Veylon, Well, that about teens as targeted audience has never been directly confirmed, I think. I mean, look at the rating. And there was this Marketing guy from Hasbro who just said that they wanted to give the fans the possibility to enjoy the franchise in different ways, what was the reason for Equestria Girls.  

 

BTT: Your points are quite an interesting view.

 

I think in the end it will be rather simple in terms of explanation. It has a run time of only 72 minutes. Subtract maybe fifteen minutes for the intro, the beginning in the Chrystal Empire and Twilight's (hopefully) return to her own world and the credits and you have something around what we know as a, maybe ten minutes longer, two-parter from FiM as the part in the human world,

[Commander_PonyShep 349]

This is aimed at the teen market, is it not? They should surely be old enough to understand the implications of the other characters having alternate universe counterparts. It's not like Back to the Future 2 is beyond their mental capabilities. Movies can have a surprisingly low opinion of viewers sometimes.

 

Back to the main point, if we're going with the view that Sunset is originally a human, how'd she get to Equestria in the first place? Wouldn't she be worried that the weird aliens with psychic powers would come after her if she stole their stuff? Why would she even want the crown?

 

I'm actually more of the persuasion that the most sense would be made if there were both a pony Sunset and a human Sunset with the former contacting and teaming up with the latter in a sort of Faustian bargain. Pony ex-student Sunset has her own intentions for the crown and is using the human Sunset to guard it in exchange for keeping her on top in her own High School world.

 

The movie could gradually introduce seemingly unfillable plot holes that drive Twilight crazy until she smacks herself on the forehead and goes "Of course! Everypony has a duplicate here. There's two of them!"

Or, perhaps, Sunset Shimmer once saw a magic mirror that transported her to Equestria. By the time she learned about the Elements in a short time frame (don't ask), she then went on to steal Twilight's tiara so that she could use its power to win the next prom queen pageant.

 

Again, the box is misleading. And, based on what I saw from the leaked images, it turns out that there is NO pony-double of Sunset Shimmer. *SPOILER* What she actually is, however, is a demon who brainwashes others to do her bidding.

 

Also, how come Twilight did not have a human double of herself? You have forgot one key part of your argument.

 

But really, I don't know. All of this arguing is making me tired. If I weren't so obsessed with instant gratification, I would just shut up and wait for the movie to come out, rather than argue with other people over stupid rumors!

Edited June 13, 2013 by Commander_PonyShep

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I really think thaT sunset may have been her star student at one point but while still being a filly messed up got her powers taken away. ALSO Celestia herself is not old enough to have encountered the crystal kingdom before but in the trailer she said "Soon you will know more about this world than even I do" essentially saying she has been n contact with that world before maybe she sent the mirror to the crystal empire after it returned and I think She may have banished sunset shimmer there before