help create a protagonist

[ParsoOfEquestria 1,490]

a friend of mine is working on a project, most likely a game. he asked me to draw a concept of the protagonist, i told him I was bad at drawing people, then he sent me this:

and told me to draw a basic concept on that. so now I'm stuck doing this and I have no idea how to model this 'protagonist'. I need some ideas how to make him look, it needs to be "badass" and "rebellious" according to my friend's description

[GameytheGeemer 147]

I'll see what I can do tomorrow in Graphics and Design, but no promises that it'll be badass.

 

That said, I think I can have something good, any more specifics that you want?

 

Also, how much are you willing to pay, because I am broke and need money.

Edited February 20, 2014 by GameytheGeemer

[ParsoOfEquestria 1,490]

I'll see what I can do tomorrow in Graphics and Design, but no promises that it'll be badass.

 

That said, I think I can have something good, any more specifics that you want?

 

Also, how much are you willing to pay, because I am broke and need money.

I was only asking for ideas, not asking someone to do it for me

[GameytheGeemer 147]

I was only asking for ideas, not asking someone to do it for me

 

Maybe, but the fact is, with that model it practically can't be rebellious do to the traditionally heroic position. The model would have to be entirely redrawn. My idea would be a more slender model with arms outspread with twin handguns, an off black trench coat with a black tee with a red black widow hourglass on his chest, blue jeans and black boots. Call him the Widow Maker and you have a prime candidate for a surprisingly great Anti-Hero like the Punisher, who is the epitome of badass renegade heroes.

 

And since you're bad at drawing people, and I'm not that bad at it, that's why I could just draw it.

Edited February 20, 2014 by GameytheGeemer

[PlunderSteed 1,252]

Forget about how the character looks (for now). First you need to figure out who he is. Where is he coming from? What kind of person is he? How did he become the way that he is? Without having a solid understanding of the man, anything you make is going to come off as shallow or derived.

[ParsoOfEquestria 1,490]

Forget about how the character looks (for now). First you need to figure out who he is. Where is he coming from? What kind of person is he? How did he become the way that he is? Without having a solid understanding of the man, anything you make is going to come off as shallow or derived.

for all I know, the protagonist is supposed to be 'you' who's daughter was kidnapped by the military, 'you' eventually snap and become a sadistic sociopathic mass murderer (by choice) according to my mate, the game is only as violent as the player is

Edited February 20, 2014 by ParsoOfEquestria

[FoxyCryptid 4,330]

for all I know, the protagonist is supposed to be 'you' who's daughter was kidnapped by the military, 'you' eventually snap and become a sadistic sociopathic mass murderer (by choice) according to my mate, the game is only as violent as the player is

 

Why did that just make think of using the dude from Heavy Rain as starting point to work from?

[Neon Fire 473]

Well, based off the description you gave, I would say just a normal looking guy, with some torn clothes, blood on him and make his face look really angry lol

[PlunderSteed 1,252]

for all I know, the protagonist is supposed to be 'you' who's daughter was kidnapped by the military, 'you' eventually snap and become a sadistic sociopathic mass murderer (by choice) according to my mate, the game is only as violent as the player is

Interesting. In that case, was he already a mass murderer before the player takes control of this character, or is that violent route just one of several routes the player can take? The reason I ask is because if it's open-ended at the start, ou might not want to be too heavy-handed with the violently suggestive parts like bloody/torn clothes.

[Discordian 6,015]

"Badass" Shouldn't every protagonist have this in one form or another?

 

"Rebellious" I wouldn't say this is any kind of good to base a character on unless there's a backstory to it.

 

But what do I know? I'm just an innocent bystander.

[PlunderSteed 1,252]

"Badass" Shouldn't every protagonist have this in one form or another?

Maybe, but I defer to Stephen King's dissenting opinion. In his foreword to Salem's Lot, he remarked that part of what made the protagonist so compelling was his utter LACK of badassery. As a 12 year old kid faced with a horrific series of events, he actually became smaller and more broken as he "triumphs."

 

He won in the end, but at a truly terrible cost.

[Discordian 6,015]

Maybe, but I defer to Stephen King's dissenting opinion. In his foreword to Salem's Lot, he remarked that part of what made the protagonist so compelling was his utter LACK of badassery. As a 12 year old kid faced with a horrific series of events, he actually became smaller and more broken as he "triumphs."

 

He won in the end, but at a truly terrible cost.

Well I suppose there is room for the opposite as well if one can pull it off well enough.

[ParsoOfEquestria 1,490]

ok this is what I've gotten out of my friend as the summary:

 

It's the year 2029 and after a massive terrorist attack on DC causing the entire US government to shut down. The national guard became corrupt and began closing down cities for their own control over. The player is an average joe with a medical history of having an extremely short fuse and violent outbursts. Travelling into a slightly abandoned but well populated (unnamed as of yet) city, with his daughter (unnamed as of yet) they are stopped at a military checkpoint, only to be pulled from their car, the player beaten into unconsciousness and his daughter kidnapped. waking up into a small police station cell, asking what had happened to a nearby soldier only to be laughed at and mocked, causing the player's cool to break and smash the soldier's head against the bars, searching for keys and lets himself out.

 

that's all I have for a beginning summary 

[PlunderSteed 1,252]

Kind of sounds like he's a psycho on rails. Would your friend be willing to consider toning it down a bit, so that the violent streak creeps up gradually, rather than beating players over the head with it from the start? For reference, consider the unsettling (and award-winning) character reevaluation we experience while playing as Joel in The Last of Us.

[ParsoOfEquestria 1,490]

Kind of sounds like he's a psycho on rails. Would your friend be willing to consider toning it down a bit, so that the violent streak creeps up gradually, rather than beating players over the head with it from the start? For reference, consider the unsettling (and award-winning) character reevaluation we experience while playing as Joel in The Last of Us.

I took that into consideration

 

Me: thats sounds as if the players are forced to become a sadist

Him: I'm trying to make it so the Military are the people that should be killed and leave the choice of killing civilians to players

Me: that doesn't really make sense, so I only kill military men and suddenly I'm not a sadist?

Him:...when you put it that way, it does sound pretty stupid

Me: at the start, players should be given a choice to either kill the guard, like your idea, or just knock him out non lethally

Him: okay, we'll go your way