FractalMoon 378 April 21, 2014 Share April 21, 2014 The only thing I can think of is that God gave man free will, and he doesn't want to interfere with that free will. But I believe that he has everything under control. He will never allow anyone to destroy the earth unless it's time. No country will use a nuclear weapon on another country anyways, because that would lead to global nuclear annihilation. They just flex their "big boy weapons" to look intimidating, and no country is willing to trust another country to get rid of their nuclear weapons when they get rid of theirs. Don't worry, there's no way for us to destroy the Earth. Destroying the Earth is HARD. And you severely underestimate the chance of a global thermonuclear war. India's new PM is basically a Hindu version of Hitler or Mussolini (to the point where they actually credit him with 'making the trains run on time' in Gujarat.) In all likelyhood, he will wind up either invading or nuking Pakistan, which could wind up being either a regional nuclear conflict or a global thermonuclear one. And how does he/she/it give us 'free will' while staying in control? Those two terms are diametrically opposed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adachi 772 April 21, 2014 Author Share April 21, 2014 (edited) Don't worry, there's no way for us to destroy the Earth. Destroying the Earth is HARD. And you severely underestimate the chance of a global thermonuclear war. India's new PM is basically a Hindu version of Hitler or Mussolini (to the point where they actually credit him with 'making the trains run on time' in Gujarat.) In all likelyhood, he will wind up either invading or nuking Pakistan, which could wind up being either a regional nuclear conflict or a global thermonuclear one. And how does he/she/it give us 'free will' while staying in control? Those two terms are diametrically opposed. As in for the most part, we can do what we want. But if the planet, and humanity are in danger, he will step in and intervene. It's better to have a divine force step in once in a while to save us from ourselves, than to have no free will at all. Because if there is even a little bit of free will, there is the chance for humanity to wipe itself out, so there has to be some kind of safeguard. I also think god is completely in control, things will go according to his will until all of the people with good in their hearts pass over. Although then again, things like the missing plane or whatever make me wonder sometimes. Edited April 21, 2014 by Pegasus “I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man’s reasoning powers are not above the monkey’s.” — Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FractalMoon 378 April 21, 2014 Share April 21, 2014 As in for the most part, we can do what we want. But if the planet, and humanity are in danger, he will step in and intervene. It's better to have a divine force step in once in a while to save us from ourselves, than to have no free will at all. Because if there is even a little bit of free will, there is the chance for humanity to wipe itself out, so there has to be some kind of safeguard. I also think god is completely in control, things will go according to his will until all of the people with good in their hearts pass over. Although then again, things like the missing plane or whatever make me wonder sometimes. Wait... Please clear this up for me... Everything will go according to his will, but we are free to do what we want? Again, this is a huge contradiction. Why would the Holocaust be his will? Why would Apartheid be his will? What kind of seriously messed up god would allow that kind of thing to happen? Humanity was OBVIOUSLY in danger during World War II, and if Hitler wasn't such an incompetent buffoon he would have won handily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adachi 772 April 21, 2014 Author Share April 21, 2014 Wait... Please clear this up for me... Everything will go according to his will, but we are free to do what we want? Again, this is a huge contradiction. Why would the Holocaust be his will? Why would Apartheid be his will? What kind of seriously messed up god would allow that kind of thing to happen? Humanity was OBVIOUSLY in danger during World War II, and if Hitler wasn't such an incompetent buffoon he would have won handily. I'm not sure. All I can think of is he won't stop every atrocity, but he will stop things that will wipe out all of humanity. Or maybe, he won't stop anything, but when humanity dies, they'll be given a comfortable waiting place til they're called up to heaven? I admit that things like that make any deity seem invalid, which is why most of the world is going atheist. “I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man’s reasoning powers are not above the monkey’s.” — Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FractalMoon 378 April 21, 2014 Share April 21, 2014 I'm not sure. All I can think of is he won't stop every atrocity, but he will stop things that will wipe out all of humanity. Or maybe, he won't stop anything, but when humanity dies, they'll be given a comfortable waiting place til they're called up to heaven? I admit that things like that make any deity seem invalid, which is why most of the world is going atheist. Actually, they aren't. The world is mostly stagnating in terms of conversions to religions. I myself am Agnostic Theistic, but I personally don't believe in an afterlife. If there is one, how come people don't see it when they die and come back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adachi 772 April 21, 2014 Author Share April 21, 2014 Actually, they aren't. The world is mostly stagnating in terms of conversions to religions. I myself am Agnostic Theistic, but I personally don't believe in an afterlife. If there is one, how come people don't see it when they die and come back? What did they claim to see? Because one person said he had two NDEs, and both times he saw a place for the dead where he saw some of his loved ones, and also, guides. “I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man’s reasoning powers are not above the monkey’s.” — Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FractalMoon 378 April 22, 2014 Share April 22, 2014 What did they claim to see? Because one person said he had two NDEs, and both times he saw a place for the dead where he saw some of his loved ones, and also, guides. Both of the two people who I know who were legally dead then somehow were revived said that there was nothing there, like being unconscious but forever. Then again, both of them were attempting suicide, so maybe that affected what afterlife they went to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuteycindyhoney 13,307 April 22, 2014 Share April 22, 2014 At the risk of seriously rocking the boat, I'll say this. If I have to be ruled by a fictional character, I pick Celestia. 1 Thank you Sparklefan1234!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adachi 772 April 22, 2014 Author Share April 22, 2014 Both of the two people who I know who were legally dead then somehow were revived said that there was nothing there, like being unconscious but forever. Then again, both of them were attempting suicide, so maybe that affected what afterlife they went to. Hmm, maybe it was a combination of being legally dead and unconscious. Or they were just unconscious, but their vitals slowed to the point where they couldn't get a reading. Because I know most people claim to have seen a tunnel, and this is possibly thousands, maybe even tens of thousands of cases. And some even claim to see relatives, but their relatives told them that it isn't their time yet, and as much as they would like them to stick around, it would be selfish of them to keep them away from their living loved ones. “I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man’s reasoning powers are not above the monkey’s.” — Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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