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Volunteers in Crimea


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Some volunteers decided to join the war and fight for Russia in Ukraine...

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They are joining the army of the autonomous republic, to help defend the endangered citizens if needed.

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The situation there is stabilizing, but the presence of USS Truxtun in the Black Sea is not promising.

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The movement is getting larger and larger each day, although they are mostly Serbs, Russians from Novgorod started joining.

Have a nice day I guess.

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man.. i hope that they know what they are doing.. no one needs a war right now :( well maybe if somethig happens i  will got here with the red cross

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They fight for justice silly ^_^

@@Malinter,

Their movement was 100000 men large in WWII, and when Yugoslavia capitulated they continued the fight, and could have won, but there was a civil war against communists in the same time. When the Soviet Union made a deal with Great Britain, Britain started supporting the commies, gave them Maxims, which is why the Chetniks eventually lost, even if the commies cooperated with Germans at some point against the Chetniks.

 

These same guys made a March for the Cross of Honor, and traveled 3000 kms by foot carrying huge flags and a cross in honor of the Romanov and Nemanjic dynasies, so they're pretty tough guys I guess :D

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They fight for justice silly ^_^

What kind of justice if I may ask? Making a mess worse in a country is not very easy to justify.

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They joined the official army of the Republic of Crimea. If you doubt in the acts of Russia take a look at this: http://mlpforums.com/blog/1453/entry-10314-nine-amazing-facts-about-the-russian-right-on-crimea/

They fight to protect the citizens of the peninsula.

The real question is how the Tatars would feel if the semi-island became a part of Russia. How exactly did the russians need protection btw? Never fully understood if they even have a threat or anything, considering they are the majority.

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The fascists in Kiev sent forces to attack the pro-Russian protesters in Crimea, plus they are taking away their human rights, and the right to use their language.

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The fascists in Kiev sent forces to attack the pro-Russian protesters in Crimea, plus they are taking away their human rights, and the right to use their language.

ok, thanks for telling me.

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They fight to protect the citizens of the peninsula.

 

Because 30 000 Russian armed forces obviously aren't enough to do so obviously...

 

The fascists in Kiev sent forces to attack the pro-Russian protesters in Crimea, plus they are taking away their human rights [...]

 

Nowadays people who fight to break the regime and their country's democracy are called fascists? What has this world become...?

 

Nobody is to blame for independent actions of independent groups of people. Pro-Russians are attacking Ukrainians and vice versa, this will remain unchanged for now. Although I admit, certain things behind Ukraine's new government seem... slippery.

Still, I'd like a source on which human rights are being taken away? Since I know Ukraine is attempting to reform languages, what is a major mistake on their side and shouldn't be done.

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@@Khajiit, 25,000 and they have the legal right to, all the way to 2042.

 

 

Nowadays people who fight to break the regime and their country's democracy are called fascists? What has this world become...?

2000 armed "peacefull" protesters shouting "Sieg Heil" (witnessed myself!) and forcefully taking over a government is a COUP! Why didn't they wait 12 more months to vote and see what will happen, because Ukrainians are asking for Russian citizenship now, and millions of pro-Russian Ukranians are protesting and raising Russian flags and oh, when 2 MILLION PEOPLE IN LONDON RALLIED AGAINST THE WAR IN IRAQ IN 2003, WHAT DID THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT DO? Ukraine is just another step for the American surrounding of Russia.

 

Look at my last blog post if you have any disputes whether what Russia is doing is legal.

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Ukraine was just tired. It is obvious that there were numerous 'dirty tricks' in elections as of 2012, and there were rumors of such practices far before those elections.

 

As for all the rights... yes, it does grant them strong rights to hold a referendum, they have a VERY STRONG basis to inquire Crimean territories to be handed over due to the 'coup'. But it does not grant them rights to paralyze and take over the sector of Ukrainian territory. Ukraine proposed to Russia creation of independent, autonomic Crimean region, but Russia didn't even want to discuss this.

 

From your post it's clear that Russia leases their rights/bases/etc (on basis of [often] agreements between Russian and corrupt Ukrainian old government), but these still remain on Ukrainian soil. Would you call paralyzing by force and, as of about few hours ago, taking over different countries' military bases by force legal? If referendum was so sure to be a win for Russia, why are they continuously interfering with arms instead of trying to resolve the issue peacefully? And more importantly, why would Vladimir Putin straightforward lie, denying that these forces are Russian army, if what he's doing is completely legal? What's happening now is partially a reflection of "Anschluss Österreichs".

 

I think the difference between your and mine approach is that we live on the other sides of borders. You're calling the situation the "American's way of pressurizing Russia", I'm calling the situation an outrage and "Russian's aggressive march for domination", for I live in post-communistic country and fear how far will Russia go after Ukraine.

 

I only wish for one thing: That the consequences, the outcome of this whole situation won't be terrible for any of us.

I don't support any of the sides anymore, for I am simply friggin' scared of how dumb both sides of this conflict are behaving.

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Ukraine was just tired. It is obvious that there were numerous 'dirty tricks' in elections as of 2012, and there were rumors of such practices far before those elections.

You don't have any ways to prove this, thus this is a conspiracy theory. Just because you hear this from some media doesn't mean it's true. And why is 2000 people the whole of Ukraine?

 

 

But it does not grant them rights to paralyze and take over the sector of Ukrainian territory. Ukraine proposed to Russia creation of independent, autonomic Crimean region, but Russia didn't even want to discuss this.

But what if the population wants to join Russia, like they do? Do we need a guerrilla war as well?

 

 

corrupt Ukrainian old government

So every Ukrainian government since the Soviet Union was corrupt until the pro-western government came? Give me your sources.

 

 

taking over different countries' military bases by force legal?

Yes. This regime is against the people, it is the people who are the nation not the government.

 

 

If referendum was so sure to be a win for Russia, why are they continuously interfering with arms instead of trying to resolve the issue peacefully?

Because the Kiev government sent forces to take back government buildings in Crimea, and to attack pro-Russian protesters. The legal presence of the Russian military there is preventing them from trying things like this again.

 

 

And more importantly, why would Vladimir Putin straightforward lie, denying that these forces are Russian army, if what he's doing is completely legal?

When did he lie, send me anything, even a link from some news, because I think you have mistaken the Russian Army and the Army of Crimea and parts of the Ukrainian Army who joined the protesters.

 

 

What's happening now is partially a reflection of "Anschluss Österreichs".

The USA is a tool of the European Union, which is the 4th German Reich. Think about it, who is braking direct UNSC orders for the past 20 years and who was breaking the Versailles agreement? I don't want to compare the current geopolitical situation to a world war, but I can roll this way if you want to.

 

 

for I live in post-communistic country and fear how far will Russia go after Ukraine

I hope you have noticed that the Soviet Union has dissolved about 30 years ago, and that Russia is a liberal democracy now. I live in a post-communistic country as well, that doesn't change anything.

 

 

for I am simply friggin' scared of how dumb both sides of this conflict are behaving.

YOU DON'T HAVE A RIGHT TO CALL ANY OF THE SIDES DUMB! They are all protecting their interests, the American interest is to get another NATO base close to Russia (like Camp Bondsteel wasn't enough) , the interest of Russia is to defend it's citizens, and keep it's Black Sea fleet where it is and stop the intents of NATO. If they acted dumb like you described it, I'm pretty sure none of us would be alive.

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