So i should start with a disclaimer, i will speak positive things about America, i realize that that is controversial and may be a trigger for some people, so im just putting a little warning up here

OK, so as the title suggests yesterday was a pretty bad experience, i mean ive had worse, but i got a little ticked off about a subject that should of not come up, i would of posted this yesterday, but the forums were broken at the time

So before we begin, you should probably know where im coming from, i am a proud american citizen, however i do have my own disagreements with the government, for example i believe most of this nation's problems can be blamed on political parties and the fact that they cannot get along at all, i also do not take conspiracy theories seriously at all, my dad is in the national guard and is a well read respectful and respected individual in what ever community he is in, i my self respect all soldiers and what they go through. so with that out of the way, lets begin

So yesterday im sitting on skype in a group and this guy posts the obligatory "oh this happened years ago, we should stop caring and move on" as an american, i believe he is free to think and believe what ever he wants, but its one of those things you dont say out loud, its like those people a while back who were like "f*** hati" like yeah its a dick thing to think but you dont say it out loud, and as a result, a couple people join in on the anti american statements

now as an american on the internet, im used to america bashing, im no stranger to the persecution, but like, you gotta have respect some times, you may think and feel that way, but of all the days to say that crap, not that day, so i told these people, "of all the days to america bash, you choose this day?" now i understand that people from other countries may not care as much, even though it was a world changing event, it didnt happen in their country so i get that they may not care as much, but still you should at least show some respect,

so im talking to this group of people, trying to argue my points and its clear that theres no possible way that they are going to respect my points, but for some reason i dont know why, i continued arguing with them, as normally i ignore america bashing unless they start implying that the entire american military is comprised of rapist blood thirsty savages (and this did happen later on)

So anyway, there comes a point where one of them is trying to convince me that the american government collaborated with news networks to give out false information, i of course scoffed at this, because it implies two things, that the american government can work together to pull this off, and two that news networks can cooperate, im sorry folks, but believing that CNN and Fox news can work together to report the same lie that the government (that they dont even agree with half the time) issued out secretly, is something i cannot believe for a second

I think a lot of people have a misunderstanding of what the government is, they think it just some large entity that controls everything in the shadows, the truth is that the american government is too stupid to be that, its more of a multiheaded hydra, each head has its own agenda and they all actively hate eachother, the most prominent heads the republicans and the democrats who will never agree to anything the other side says, its a miracle that anything ever gets done government wise

i completely dismissed that statement, even when they continued with irrelevant crap like how time magazine has a different cover in america than it does the rest of the world, which A, who cares and B, probably still has the same material inside the cover, but anyway, as this goes on, one guy posts a picture of every atrocity committed by american soldiers in iraq, while the list was short containing about 8 instances (9 if you count the black water incident, which i don't because f*** blackwater) implying that that represents the majority of american soldiers, see this is what pissed me off, but luckily for me, he posted his own down fall, he posted some thing that he even admitted to was irrelevant that apparently the US government assassinated Martin Luther King, at that point he completely lost all credibility to me, posting a conspiracy theory that if true would have huge media attention, so from that point on i didnt take this guy seriously anymore, fortunately he was not so crazy as to think 9/11 was an inside job, if he had believed that, i would of just stopped talking and left

anyway when i told him i dont take conspiracy theories seriously at all, be basically said i was apart of the sheeple and didnt question anything, as an atheist and some one who doesn't like various parts of the government, i did not bother responding, i started to get the feeling that this guy was some hard core anti american, the type of person who would believe anything they heard as long as it made America look bad, now i know america has done some bad stuff in the past, especially with the native americans, however it is also not some empire of evil that incapable of doing good

a big problem i have with people like this is that they seemingly think that america is the only nation that does bad things, ignoring or even justifying actions of other countries, one person said that 9/11 was just "those people fighting back" as a justification, i responded that al qaeda routinely films decapitations and posts them on the internet as a form of intimidation, i did not get a response from this

i should also point out my dismissal of conspiracy theories, none of them make sense from a common sense stand point, now i said the government was stupid, but most of these theories operate on a different kind of stupid, as something like the assassination of MLK makes no sense and would not benefit anyone except a few racist senators, i have yet to see a conspiracy theory that makes any sense at all

anyway the argument basically stopped after he was like "fine, stay ignorant" and im just like you have your propaganda, and i have mine

so yeah,, thats basically it, the moral of the story, be mindful and respectful of others, especially during days of national mourning

i just needed to write all my feelings about the thing out so i wouldn't keep it inside, i dont expect people to read this