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Coarse State of Cellphone Imagery


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Cell Phones have been toting cameras for nearly a decade now if not longer. The technology gets smaller and better and so we see an increase in the uber awesomezorz mega pixels and yet not one cell camera that I've seen has handled any lighting condition outside of flouresent or natural with any form of quality. Every picture is rather dark, a bit washed out (or sepia toned) and usually grainy. Why? Digital cameras aren't new. I understand that the actual sensor in a cellphone camera isn't big by any standard, but why is all the focus on mega pixels rather than making "fine" image quality mean something (pun intented)? I own a Nokia N900. It says it has Carl Zeiss optics on the cover to the camera, yet its easily beat by a 12 year old 1.3 megapixel Fujifilm digital camera that uses an 8 megabyte SmartMedia card. I did install FCam and it does offer a bit more control over things, but low light pictures still look crappy. Does it really cost that much board real estate to put a decent CMOS sensor in a phone? I'm not asking for a pocket sized dSLR, but I am asking for a decent digital camera in a ~$500 phone.

 

Note: I didn't actually pay $500 for my phone.

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I think it has to do not so much with the sensor's quality and moreso with its physical size. There is only room for so many photons on a cellphone-size image sensor, so it seems reasonable to me that it is simply impossible for such a small, tiny camera to capture enough light in dark areas to form a quality image worth looking at.

 

Really, I'm a bit saddened at how many people actually settle for the quality of phone pictures. Admittedly, some major improvements have been made in recent years (the iPhone 4S makes for a fairly decent low-end camera in mid- to bright-range lighting); but our family's $250 (at the time - probably ~$120 now) 14-megapixel Sony Cybershot still knocks quality out of the park in just about every possible lighting environment. The camera is smaller than a phone, but the actual lens and sensor make up around half of the unit's volume.

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while we're on the subject of digital cameras, what's a good recommendation for getting a cheap one? i've wanted one for a very long time, but i don't know what is a good investment to spend money on.

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Because they know that if you're serious about photography that you probably have Photoshop or some other correction program. JK, probably what feld0 said or something along those lines. I feel that if apple could throw another gimmick on their phone that they would.

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You also have to factor in the fact that "More megapixels!" sounds better to non-photographers than "full control over shutter speed, aperture, exposure settings, and a myriad of other things professionals use to make stuff look awesome".

 

Man, xkcd has a comic for every situation:

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I think it has to do not so much with the sensor's quality and moreso with its physical size. There is only room for so many photons on a cellphone-size image sensor, so it seems reasonable to me that it is simply impossible for such a small, tiny camera to capture enough light in dark areas to form a quality image worth looking at.

 

Still, would it really take that much space to make something halfway decent? It seems to me that a larger sensor would be eons better than the craptastic LED "flash" to try to add light when in reality it just washes everything out.

 

You also have to factor in the fact that "More megapixels!" sounds better to non-photographers than "full control over shutter speed, aperture, exposure settings, and a myriad of other things professionals use to make stuff look awesome".

 

True, but a side by side comparison in an ad or something would demolish that argument easily.

 

Man, xkcd has a comic for every situation

 

Indeed.

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