TheUltimateAvenger

I don't know, they did show some mind warping tech in MOS, and its possible they have some form of defense against mind attacks. Besides, Zod isn't like Supes....he goes for blood.

Story (SPOILERS FOR EQUESTRIA GIRLS AND MOS): In a what if story that may never have passed, Sunset Shimmer was able to successfully defeat the Mane 6 before they were able to use the power of friendship, killing them in the process and eventually using her power to conquer Earth and Equestria with no problem, on another Earth in another time, General Zod has found a way to kill Superman before he can stop his plans to terraform Earth, and has finally made his New Krypton a reality. However a rip in the fabric of space and time has brought both of these powerful earths together. As Sunset Shimmer prepares to attack New Krypton, Zod and his soldiers confront her. Zod begins the assault on Sunset Shimmer and the fighting begins. Rules: Both have a full understanding of their powers and have trained with them for a period of one year, but no prep time as it is a spur of the moment fight. Scenario 1.) Zod is on his own and has access to no weapons or armor / Sunset Shimmer is on her own and no access to weapons or armor . 2.) Zod is on his own but has access to all of his on person weapons (Kryptonian Phaser Gun...thing) and armor / Same with Sunset Shimmer 3.) Zod is backed up by all his men and women and the power of the Phantom Zone Drive / Sunset Shimmer is backed by Demonic Snips and Snails, and her Highschool Zombie Army plus the Element of Magic. Who wins?

Well, as much Magic as Celestia has. I don't know if that puts her 100% on the level of everything Superman has. Celestia can fly probably a lot faster than Rainbow Dash (Hyper Sonic), Supermans FTL (Faster than Light) Celestia beams can be seen up to a least City Level, Superman can make his Heat Vision PLANET LEVEL. Supermans Stronger and possibly Smarter. However....Superman has a LOOOOOT of Powers, Celestia has magic than can duplicate all this powers if she needs to (maybe not to the full extent but still) and more. Celestia has over 1000 years of experience, Superman has 20. Celestia could produce Kryptonite (if she even knew about it) and Red Sunlight (she is the master of the Sun) That and... Superman isn't entirely vulnerable to magic... not weak to it, but it can affect him. And Celestia is a master sorceress soooooooo. Yeah its hard to say. Personally I think Superman is a better leader and hero, he gets things done without being cryptic to her subjects and sitting on his ass all day, so yeah.

Yeah I removed OP the character... um PC Superman from the equation one I realized how OP he is. Post-Crisis is FAR more receptive to magic than PC Superman, though he has managed some great defensive feats against magic uses before. So it really matters which is better at attacking. And really, I doubt Celestia doesn't have some sort of spell to make her faster though. And if the Season Finale is anything to go by, "changing destinies is considered enough to become a princess"... Damn. Then again... this is the same guy who punched holes so hard into reality that he shattered the fabric of space and time (Post-Crisis) and reworked the time space continuum (Infinite Crisis Superman vs Golden Age Superman). So yeah.

WRONG Pre-Crisis Supermans powers are just if the writers of DC were like "why don't we create the most over the top character of all time, BUT make it out of a well known Superhero because then people who consider it a complete cop out and then see how well it sells"... and surprisingly... it sold a LOTTT

Meh... Pre-Crisis Superman would just invent Anti-Everything except him Vision and defeat her in an instant. And even if she invents the ability to get as powerful as him, he would invent a power to do the same... and endless cycle and endless cycle.

I thought only the elements of harmony could seal I don't know, for one wasn't it only the Elements of Harmony that did that. And even then, Supermans busted Magical Moons before... when pissed and building up speed. Mind you, he's gotten stronger since than. So its likely he could survive it. Problem is he has to accelerate, and get his body back together. But if he can generate his molecules fast enough, he could bust himself out. And transporting him to a MAGIC sun... oh that's a BAAAAAD idea. The reason I say "Post or Pre Crisis" is because of the event, Crisis on Infinite Earths. It was an event that erased the old Megaverse of DC (Yeah it took TRILLIONS of Universes collapsing to end Pre-Crisis Superman... and he still managed to get out until the last issue and last panel) to the new DC Universe (later Multiverse) so Pre-COIE and Post-COIE... but Pre-Crisis and Post-Crisis sounds better. And no im not using Super "I can destroy the Multiverse by flying faster than infinity" Man.. im not kidding about that either http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/3388/277699-dccp29_05infinity_super.jpg..YEAAAAAAAH THAT HAPPENED But the fight is still really "iffy" in Post-Crisis because of the debatable appearance of Celestias "power" and even then Supermans faced and defeated some on her level before magic and all, Besides Her, Luna, Alicorn Twilight (if shes supposedly as powerful as she seems to be) or Discord stand ANY chance against him.

I did rectify that SOMETIMES Superman can be a Mary Sue, which means he seems to perfect. Doesn't have to mean hes totally overpowered just to much of a killjoy If you use the same logic, Goku and Superman is stupid because Gokus power isn't defined either yet the debate is still up. What we can assume is. A.) She can move and lift the Sun, and since the Universe in MLP seems a lot like ours (Twilights Comet explanation and rumors of Moon Colonies made by Luna) its safe to say she can brace the full weight of it. Now... other lesser ponies supposedly, though that could be bullshit. If this is true she can move the force and weight of 1,000,000 earths. Putting her at a SHIT ton more TK strength that Post-Crisis Superman. Since she can do this without strain, she apparently can take the same amount of stress on her body... Unless the Sun isn't as big then... meh. B.) The Magic blast was not Solar Based, it was just a magic blast. And really, yeah we don't know how powerful it was. C) Celestia apparently can teleport anywhere at any time, and from far distances. (Lesson Zero she goes from Ponyville to Canterlot without even looking in the direction) Still besides that, yeah its just a fun match up Superman is NOT WEAKENED BY MAGIC. He is only vulnerable to its affects, and even then it has to be REALLY strong magic. Magic doesn't mean instant KO, ask Captain Marvel and Thor.

Fair enough yeah, Superman is NOWHERE near the most OP character ever... Unless your talking about Superman Prime, Sword of Superman, and Cosmic/Thought Armor... THATS definitely OP

God how much I hate to admit it. Supes can be one heck of a Mary Sue at times... though I still find him a likeable and cool character. He was the character that DEFINDED the definition of the word OP. But that's what happens when you make the worlds first Superhero, hes always gotta be the best because writers like making him the best... which has worked with the whole "best selling comic book franchise of all time" award at around 1.5 BILLION copies sold. So meh.

I know... I kinda left out Pre-Crisis Superman later on because I thought it would be WAYYYY overkill. And the Sword and Elements are gone. To be fair... after that Death Battle I think ANY version of Superman is OP... I still love him though.

I think throwing the Sun at Superman is the worst idea since giving Aquaman the power over Cthlulu., Superman is POWERED by the Sun so really shed be doing nothing more than making him stronger And really most OP? Apparently you've never heard of the Sentry. I think SuperDickeryman would basically match any troll ideas the Trollestia could think up... now if they teamed up, Death will happen Luna would be to busy with her video games, the Royal Guard cant even stop a Bug invasion, let alone the Man of Steel, and Discord isn't much different from the Superman villain Mxyzptlk... which Superman defeats REGULARLY. So I think hes ok. Really good post man, thanks for the support. A couple of things though Magic never really means instant win for anyone facing Superman, the fact hes defeated Captain Marvel, Black Adam, Wonder Woman, and even the DC and Marvel versions of THOR means he can take some magical abuse. The whole "susceptible to magic" thing only really applies to his bioelectric aura which surrounds his body, but his super dense molecular structure can take a major beating because its so dense. And even if the Sun is magic, there have been cases where Superman has absorbed magical sun radiation (its weird) and used them like his normal powers, only powered by magic. I think its a fair match if Celestia takes the fight seriously and actually uses all that "infinite" power at her disposal, and if Superman also takes it to the extreme as well. And Superman never died, he went into a "healing coma"... "coughsputterBULLSHITcoughsputter". I do agree that Superman and Princess Celestia are the big goods of their world, and would probably get along very well. This fight is really theoretical because of HOW similar they are to each other. In the end I think Supes will win, but the Princess (if her apparent power is true) will make sure it isn't in any way easy.

I disagree with some of your points Yeah Superman doesn't think of himself as invincible, but even then I don't think Celestia does either (otherwise she would kick the shit out of every character in Equestria) and even then Celestia cant read his mind because he has mental blocks Well yeah she could create Kryptonite, but artificially made Kryptonite works less on him than normal Kryptonite and even then, he can ignore the pain if hes bloodlusted Also, I doubt she could Teleport away from a guy that moves so fast he can travel through time.... Still, if she allowed herself to get full power and stopped holding back, shed be a legitimate threat to Supes.

Honestly I take what I said back, after seeing what Superman can do during the Goku vs Superman Death Battle: Celestia would lose with so much ease it isn't even worth talking about Unless you can disable Supermans abilities by a LOT, Celestia doesn't have the power to take the Man of Steel down. My god this is perfect, truly the best post ive seen so far. Do you mind if I use this in a blog post on Screwattack? Change around some of the grammatical effects and such, but still keep the same idea?

I can totally see Batman winning... why? Because he would just pull out a Bat-Alicorn Repellant and shed be done for. Though in all seriousness, yes if he has time to prepare then she is going down, but if he doesn't she will easily beat him. He is still human, a human that can punch a granite column in half, but a human all the same. He doesn't have the speed or skills to take her down unprepared... just like Batman vs Dracula. Really though, I think if you like this thread, check out Princess Celestia vs Superman... I like it.