The Clone Army (Star Wars) vs. UNSC Spartans (Halo)

[rcollinz13 428]

The Spartans would win hands down. For one thing, the Spartans are raised and trained over a decade. Afterwards, they are genetically engineered to be super soldiers. The only thing the clones have going for them is their numbers. They don't have any real training, and they are not genetically enhanced fighters. Plus, if Master Chief is fighting with the Spartans then they'd win in under an hour.

[Gone Airbourne 21,977]

Although Stormtroopers suck at aiming xD the Spartans would probably win with their hands tied behind their backs... I would love to see an all out war between the two!

 

Shoot I am going to go with the clone army they are just badass!

[Evilshy 5,090]

The Spartans would win hands down. For one thing, the Spartans are raised and trained over a decade. Afterwards, they are genetically engineered to be super soldiers. The only thing the clones have going for them is their numbers. They don't have any real training, and they are not genetically enhanced fighters. Plus, if Master Chief is fighting with the Spartans then they'd win in under an hour.

 

Actually, Clones are modified to be in peak physical condition. They're not superhuman, like Spartans, but they're still peak human.

Also, they spend all their time training for years. Again, not as much as Spartans, but they still have quite a bit of training.

[Ion 279]

tl;dr - Space Marines would annihilate Spartans like ants. Not because Spartans suck, but because Space Marines are just insane.

 

 

I know all about what a Space Marine is (I've played 40k for over a decade and have worked for GW at one point) and their abilities, but that wasn't my point. My point is that Spartans Vs. Space Marines is a lot fairer than Clones vs Spartans especially as most people here seem to want to ignore the obvious strengths a clone has (They seem to think its 1 clone fighting 1 spartan rather than hundreds of clones fighting 1 spartan which it would really be).

 

I know a Space Marine is stronger and more resilient than a Spartan in every way, but still I think the fight wouldn't automatically be a Space Marine win. Spartans are faster than a Space Marine which could help them. Obviously Space Marines are engineered to tank damage and still fight on, and would last a lot longer than a Spartan in a protracted fight. I do think a Space Marine would win most of the time but as I said before this would be fairer as both warriors are similar in abilities (Unlike Clones and Spartans).

 

 

But on the topic of clones, as a lot of people have already said they will have the advantage of numbers and superior weaponry and unless these Spartans as nigh invincible, they can be killed by a few blaster hits.

[MrL0LZ 866]

I know all about what a Space Marine is (I've played 40k for over a decade and have worked for GW at one point) and their abilities, but that wasn't my point. My point is that Spartans Vs. Space Marines is a lot fairer than Clones vs Spartans especially as most people here seem to want to ignore the obvious strengths a clone has (They seem to think its 1 clone fighting 1 spartan rather than hundreds of clones fighting 1 spartan which it would really be).

 

I know a Space Marine is stronger and more resilient than a Spartan in every way, but still I think the fight wouldn't automatically be a Space Marine win. Spartans are faster than a Space Marine which could help them. Obviously Space Marines are engineered to tank damage and still fight on, and would last a lot longer than a Spartan in a protracted fight. I do think a Space Marine would win most of the time but as I said before this would be fairer as both warriors are similar in abilities (Unlike Clones and Spartans).

 

 

But on the topic of clones, as a lot of people have already said they will have the advantage of numbers and superior weaponry and unless these Spartans as nigh invincible, they can be killed by a few blaster hits.

 

Well, first of all, from what I can tell, the clones are only using lasers, which, against titanium, I don't think is the most effective. Secondly, Spartans are trained to be able to adapt and use any sort of enemy weapon on the field. So, all they have to do is kill a few clone troopers and they now have blasters. Also, all ammunition the UNSC is armor piercing and is built to go through shields that can withstand plasma. One sniper bullet can kill a fully shielded elite in one shot.

[Evilshy 5,090]

I know all about what a Space Marine is (I've played 40k for over a decade and have worked for GW at one point) and their abilities, but that wasn't my point. My point is that Spartans Vs. Space Marines is a lot fairer than Clones vs Spartans especially as most people here seem to want to ignore the obvious strengths a clone has (They seem to think its 1 clone fighting 1 spartan rather than hundreds of clones fighting 1 spartan which it would really be).

 

I know a Space Marine is stronger and more resilient than a Spartan in every way, but still I think the fight wouldn't automatically be a Space Marine win. Spartans are faster than a Space Marine which could help them. Obviously Space Marines are engineered to tank damage and still fight on, and would last a lot longer than a Spartan in a protracted fight. I do think a Space Marine would win most of the time but as I said before this would be fairer as both warriors are similar in abilities (Unlike Clones and Spartans).

 

 

But on the topic of clones, as a lot of people have already said they will have the advantage of numbers and superior weaponry and unless these Spartans as nigh invincible, they can be killed by a few blaster hits.

 

I still don't see how Spartans vs Space Marines is even approaching "fair" in any sense of the word. Unless you know something major about either team that I don't, Spartans and Clones could team up and Space Marines would still dominate.

That's awesome that you worked for GW, and seriously, if you know stuff about Space Marines that I seem to be getting wrong, please share.

 

 

Also, the blasters used by Clones (and most of the Star Wars universe) shoot plasma bolts, and single bolts don't really have much trouble punching through droids, armor, and the like, so I doubt it'd take more than a few solid hits to get through Spartan armor.

[Ion 279]

Well, first of all, from what I can tell, the clones are only using lasers, which, against titanium, I don't think is the most effective. Secondly, Spartans are trained to be able to adapt and use any sort of enemy weapon on the field. So, all they have to do is kill a few clone troopers and they now have blasters. Also, all ammunition the UNSC is armor piercing and is built to go through shields that can withstand plasma. One sniper bullet can kill a fully shielded elite in one shot.

 

The "laser" weapons used by infantry in Star Wars technically aren't lasers in the traditional sense. They actually fire bolts of superheated and focussed plasma which can melt through almost any armour with ease. Spartan Armour may be good, but it still gets pierced by projectile weapons and blaster weapons are much more powerful than conventional slug throwers.

[MrL0LZ 866]

The "laser" weapons used by infantry in Star Wars technically aren't lasers in the traditional sense. They actually fire bolts of superheated and focussed plasma which can melt through almost any armour with ease. Spartan Armour may be good, but it still gets pierced by projectile weapons and blaster weapons are much more powerful than conventional slug throwers.

 

Also, the blasters used by Clones (and most of the Star Wars universe) shoot plasma bolts, and single bolts don't really have much trouble punching through droids, armor, and the like, so I doubt it'd take more than a few solid hits to get through Spartan armor.

 

Mmmkay. Thanks for clearing it up. This actually changes a lot. I can see these clones as covenant elites without shields even though they're not like that at all. Well, we've got plasma vs titanium and shields that can recharge and armor piercing rounds vs strong armor (Don't know how strong it is, but i'm guessing it's around titanium .) I think the fight really just depends on tactics and numbers. Edited October 15, 2012 by Evil L0LZ

[Ion 279]

Mmmkay. Thanks for clearing it up. This actually changes a lot. I can see these clones as covenant elites without shields even though they're not like that at all. Well, we've got plasma vs titanium and shields that can recharge and armor piercing rounds vs strong armor (Don't know how strong it is, but i'm guessing it's around titanium .) I think the fight really just depends on tactics and numbers.

 

Clone Armour is strong enough to be virtually immune to most slug weapons found in the Star Wars universe. Storm Trooper armour is even better. Most suits would be fitted with a temporary personal ray shield emitter, which would allow them to take several direct blaster hits before it overheated (Who knows where these were in the films), but only veteran troopers were proficient in its use as most new soldiers would use it at the wrong time. The clones version of the armour was better at resisting blaster shots than the suits worn by Stormtroopers.

[MrL0LZ 866]

Clone Armour is strong enough to be virtually immune to most slug weapons found in the Star Wars universe. Storm Trooper armour is even better. Most suits would be fitted with a temporary personal ray shield emitter, which would allow them to take several direct blaster hits before it overheated (Who knows where these were in the films), but only veteran troopers were proficient in its use as most new soldiers would use it at the wrong time. The clones version of the armour was better at resisting blaster shots than the suits worn by Stormtroopers.

 

And most slug weapons on the star wars universe are...? Also, they have temporary shields, interesting.... Yep, definitely comparing these guys to the covenant now.

[Ion 279]

And most slug weapons on the star wars universe are...? Also, they have temporary shields, interesting.... Yep, definitely comparing these guys to the covenant now.

 

They aren't very common in the Star Wars universe, but the armour can resist most of them. Armour piercing shots and large calibre slugs can beat it.

[MrL0LZ 866]

They aren't very common in the Star Wars universe, but the armour can resist most of them. Armour piercing shots and large calibre slugs can beat it.

 

Well, we can cross off the weapons being useless, since all the UNSC weapons use armor piercing rounds. Every single one. Even the pistol.