Dewdlz 939 October 23, 2014 Author Share October 23, 2014 Alright, as for the idea itself I feel while rather an interesting idea, I believe it will actually do more harm than good for her in the fandom's eyes as I'm having a strong feeling many members in the fandom will try to use this to justify their headcanon for an evil Celestia and with definite proof like that, I can't imagine her reputation ever recovering from that. Yes, that's partly why I believe Luna received little show time since she was reformed from being evil. But Celestia hasn't received the greatest amount of show time as well. I mean, it could be a spell for all we know that just so happened to strike Celestia, much like when Rarity became possessed by that book. (is it okay to post spoilers?) *rubs head* I think it could be an interesting concept, if Luna was formerly Nightmare Moon, perhaps Celestia could be the Crimson Sun. Sometimes a story has to take a risk, The Lord of the Rings should took many risks, and most of them paid off, an seemingly innocent character like Celestia could make a good villain, despite the fact some fans believe Celestia to be a tyrant, however, we don't seem to observe totalitarian rule, not like Avatar the Last Airbender or the Legend of Korra, those programs did leave good hints about the character of the Fire Lord and the Earth Queen. Although power does corrupt, it would have to be established, a progression of a ascendency into deranged lust, sort of like the Shinning, Jack did not start out mad, he got that way as the story progressed, that is what would have to be established, instead of a sudden irrational act, to the audience anyway, perhaps the mane six would be shocked to see their princess unravel, and never expected her to become so sinister, so they had to embark on a quest to find a power to defeat her. I tip my hat to you good sir. My thoughts almost exactly. 2 https://widekmusic.bandcamp.com/album/journey-to-the-stars ^Space-djent music for Luna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke87654 1,849 October 23, 2014 Share October 23, 2014 Yes, that's partly why I believe Luna received little show time since she was reformed from being evil. But Celestia hasn't received the greatest amount of show time as well. I mean, it could be a spell for all we know that just so happened to strike Celestia, much like when Rarity became possessed by that book. (is it okay to post spoilers?) *rubs head* Perhaps that could work, if she were to say wreck a good portion of Equestria and when she returns to normal, she is shown visibly affected by it and seeks to right her wrongs. Let's put it that after reading her portrayal in the Reflections arc in the IDW comics, I'm very paranoid of any major arc involving Celestia after that one turned her into a love struck teenager. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marine_Vet_Brony 317 October 23, 2014 Share October 23, 2014 Why do I have a feeling this topic is wishing for a Celestia Villain just so Luna fans can use it to justify Luna's turn in someway? As Luna Fan I want this not justify Luna's turn but just to get more screen time. Im still ike about what they did to her during the wedding. 1 Not afraid too admit Ponies are sexy. Sexy Pony list: Applejack, Celestia, Luna, and Trixie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke87654 1,849 October 23, 2014 Share October 23, 2014 As Luna Fan I want this not justify Luna's turn but just to get more screen time. Im still ike about what they did to her during the wedding. Fair enough, but I feel there are other ways to give them more screen time that doesn't involve turning either of them back to the dark side as I'd rather have them doing some slice of life episode rather than something major first. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewdlz 939 October 23, 2014 Author Share October 23, 2014 Perhaps that could work, if she were to say wreck a good portion of Equestria and when she returns to normal, she is shown visibly affected by it and seeks to right her wrongs. Let's put it that after reading her portrayal in the Reflections arc in the IDW comics, I'm very paranoid of any major arc involving Celestia after that one turned her into a love struck teenager. Which issue of IDW was that? I've only been up to the pirate one as of today. 1 https://widekmusic.bandcamp.com/album/journey-to-the-stars ^Space-djent music for Luna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke87654 1,849 October 23, 2014 Share October 23, 2014 Which issue of IDW was that? I've only been up to the pirate one as of today. It's issue 17-20. It's a classic case of alot of interesting ideas but poor execution that ended up making Celestia an even worse character because of that arc. As a reviewer, it's one of the few series of MLP comics I whole heartily recommend you avoid it at all cost. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marine_Vet_Brony 317 October 23, 2014 Share October 23, 2014 Fair enough, but I feel there are other ways to give them more screen time that doesn't involve turning either of them back to the dark side as I'd rather have them doing some slice of life episode rather than something major first. Why not it is a good lesson to teach that even the best of us can be corrputed. The road to hell is paved by good intentsions. 2 Not afraid too admit Ponies are sexy. Sexy Pony list: Applejack, Celestia, Luna, and Trixie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewdlz 939 October 23, 2014 Author Share October 23, 2014 It's issue 17-20. It's a classic case of alot of interesting ideas but poor execution that ended up making Celestia an even worse character because of that arc. As a reviewer, it's one of the few series of MLP comics I whole heartily recommend you avoid it at all cost. Oh man, that's pretty close to where I'm at too. Well I do enjoy reading the IDW comics so I "might" read it just to see what all the fuss is about, lol. 1 https://widekmusic.bandcamp.com/album/journey-to-the-stars ^Space-djent music for Luna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke87654 1,849 October 23, 2014 Share October 23, 2014 Why not it is a good lesson to teach that even the best of us can be corrputed. The road to hell is paved by good intentsions. It's more like I'd rather have a few episodes that involve Celestia doing some good and helping ponies as a means to build up on that corruption as it would be much stronger to see her perform those deeds than to simply get mentioned she does them and have her turn for the darkside. It'll be more tragic for her fall if we're to go through what I'm suggesting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countess Noodle 607 October 23, 2014 Share October 23, 2014 All I have to say is I'm joining the Solar Empire. Celestia is best Queen. 2 Made by MiniKirby123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewdlz 939 October 23, 2014 Author Share October 23, 2014 All I have to say is I'm joining the Solar Empire. Celestia is best Queen. Did you know Celestia was intentionally supposed to be queen but Hasbro discarded it? 1 https://widekmusic.bandcamp.com/album/journey-to-the-stars ^Space-djent music for Luna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countess Noodle 607 October 23, 2014 Share October 23, 2014 Did you know Celestia was intentionally supposed to be queen but Hasbro discarded it? Ya I do know, which sucks. Queen Celestia has more power behind it. It sounds like she actually knows what she's doing. 1 Made by MiniKirby123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewdlz 939 October 23, 2014 Author Share October 23, 2014 Ya I do know, which sucks. Queen Celestia has more power behind it. It sounds like she actually knows what she's doing. Queen Celestia versus Queen Chrysalis, hmmm it does seem to add up. But I suppose Luna would be a regular princess, under-rating her more than she is. https://widekmusic.bandcamp.com/album/journey-to-the-stars ^Space-djent music for Luna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marine_Vet_Brony 317 October 23, 2014 Share October 23, 2014 All I have to say is I'm joining the Solar Empire. Celestia is best Queen. I will defend the Lunar Republic with my life agaisnt the evil that is the Solar Empire. 2 Not afraid too admit Ponies are sexy. Sexy Pony list: Applejack, Celestia, Luna, and Trixie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countess Noodle 607 October 23, 2014 Share October 23, 2014 Queen Celestia versus Queen Chrysalis, I would have loved to see a kick ass Queen vs Queen fight between them. What a missed opportunity. -_- 1 Made by MiniKirby123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewdlz 939 October 24, 2014 Author Share October 24, 2014 I will defend the Lunar Republic with my life agaisnt the evil that is the Solar Empire. It's settled then, we all meet 2300 hours tonight. Ha jk. 1 https://widekmusic.bandcamp.com/album/journey-to-the-stars ^Space-djent music for Luna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countess Noodle 607 October 24, 2014 Share October 24, 2014 I will defend the Lunar Republic with my life agaisnt the evil that is the Solar Empire. I looked forward to meeting you on the battlefield. :okiedokielokie: 2 Made by MiniKirby123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marine_Vet_Brony 317 October 24, 2014 Share October 24, 2014 I looked forward to meeting you on the battlefield. :okiedokielokie: (Begins loading my revolver) that we shall. 2 Not afraid too admit Ponies are sexy. Sexy Pony list: Applejack, Celestia, Luna, and Trixie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countess Noodle 607 October 24, 2014 Share October 24, 2014 All glory to Celestia!!!!The mother of Equestria!!!!And the One True Princess!!! 1 Made by MiniKirby123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hovershy 3,816 October 24, 2014 Share October 24, 2014 Honestly, this idea seems a little far fetched to me. I just don't see it happening. They could maybe pull it off, but I think it's just too much. There's already enough reformations and betrayals already. 2 Fluttershy Fan Club sig by Blue Snowfire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewdlz 939 October 24, 2014 Author Share October 24, 2014 Honestly, this idea seems a little far fetched to me. I just don't see it happening. They could maybe pull it off, but I think it's just too much. There's already enough reformations and betrayals already. Maybe it would be better served as inspiration for the next S5 villain then? 1 https://widekmusic.bandcamp.com/album/journey-to-the-stars ^Space-djent music for Luna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castle Bleck 19,440 October 24, 2014 Share October 24, 2014 I could see her going Woobie, Destroyer Of Worlds from the shame of constantly getting Worfed whenever she tries to defend Equestria personally. 2 By @Emerald Heart.↑ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewdlz 939 October 24, 2014 Author Share October 24, 2014 I could see her going Woobie, Destroyer Of Worlds from the shame of constantly getting Worfed whenever she tries to defend Equestria personally. Yeah I mean we've seen little glimpses of hostility, she would be a formidable foe if something unexpectedly happened. 2 https://widekmusic.bandcamp.com/album/journey-to-the-stars ^Space-djent music for Luna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castle Bleck 19,440 October 24, 2014 Share October 24, 2014 Yeah I mean we've seen little glimpses of hostility, she would be a formidable foe if something unexpectedly happened. Celestia: "All this time, I've taught trust in others. But what if you yourself become useless as a result? Nightmare Moon, Discord, Queen Chrysalis, King Sombra, Lord Tirek... I couldn't stop any of them on my own; others had to carry those burdens for me. Well, I'm sick of it, sick of being an unworthy princess. Starting now, I'll make sure my little ponies and their friendships are safe... by any means necessary." 3 By @Emerald Heart.↑ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marine_Vet_Brony 317 October 24, 2014 Share October 24, 2014 Celestia: "All this time, I've taught trust in others. But what if you yourself become useless as a result? Nightmare Moon, Discord, Queen Chrysalis, King Sombra, Lord Tirek... I couldn't stop any of them on my own; others had to carry those burdens for me. Well, I'm sick of it, sick of being an unworthy princess. Starting now, I'll make sure my little ponies and their friendships are safe... by any means necessary." Coming Summer 2016 My Little Pony: Rise of an Empire. 1 Not afraid too admit Ponies are sexy. Sexy Pony list: Applejack, Celestia, Luna, and Trixie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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