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Another how to improve Starlight thread? Is there seriously anything left to say that has not already been said like.. a madeupwordilllion times? I think little girls in the past playing with the G1 t

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This.    However, it's not enough for them to simply build a relationship. Now that Starlight has wronged them on a level to imply that she doesn't actually care about them in the slightest, the man

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BasementGlimmer and I are friends now. Didn't see that coming.

 

Disagreeing on something doesn't mean you can't be friends. Proves you both know how to respect another's opinion. :yay:

 

For your book thing, as I was telling Basement, it sort of already happened with Heart's warming tail. If they do go with another book-reading episode to teach Starlight morality and whatnot, how would you do it?

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Disagreeing on something doesn't mean you can't be friends. Proves you both know how to respect another's opinion. :yay:

 

For your book thing, as I was telling Basement, it sort of already happened with Heart's warming tail. If they do go with another book-reading episode to teach Starlight morality and whatnot, how would you do it?

Yeah, turns out BG isn't the "Starlight Glimmer did nothing wrong, you bitter old man! You're just mad because your waifu isn't the greatest ever any more." kind of Starlight fan, and I'm not the "Starlight should be turned to still-living stone, divided into quarters, and each quarter should be thrown into different corners of Tartarus! That'll teach her for hurting my waifu! Oh, and Fluttershy should do the rock-breaking herself! Serves Starlight right!" type of Starlight hater.

 

Anyway, on topic...

 

Starlight desperately needs to learn basic pony morality. Don't use magic on someone without their consent, don't mess with somepony else's body, mind, or personality without consent, don't mind-control your friends to make things easy when the alternative is to compromise and let them think freely and come up with better ideas than you, etc.

 

And how would this be done?

 

By making her read Twilight's best books on the subject in a multi-hour study session, and then write a multi-page essay to show her new deep understanding of the topic most ponies understand by the time they're foals.

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By making her read Twilight's best books on the subject in a multi-hour study session, and then write a multi-page essay to show her new deep understanding of the topic most ponies understand by the time they're foals.

 

That certainly wouldn't be fun to watch... :D

 

Though since it's a show, there could be ways to go around it. I'm just not entirely sure that it would be "healthy" for the show, as it'd deprive it of stuff to teach and tell. If done right, could be nice ofc, but not too convinced atm.

As I said to BG, I'd rather have Starlight make a "mistake" on purpose, be forgiven as she's (more or less but let's not debate that here) been thus far, then Starlight lashes out at Twilight and the Mane 5 for giving her a special treatment, for not behaving naturally with her, making her fee alienated. The Mane 6 in shock realise what they'd been doing and voilà!

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That certainly wouldn't be fun to watch... :D

 

Though since it's a show, there could be ways to go around it. I'm just not entirely sure that it would be "healthy" for the show, as it'd deprive it of stuff to teach and tell. If done right, could be nice ofc, but not too convinced atm.

As I said to BG, I'd rather have Starlight make a "mistake" on purpose, be forgiven as she's (more or less but let's not debate that here) been thus far, then Starlight lashes out at Twilight and the Mane 5 for giving her a special treatment, for not behaving naturally with her, making her fee alienated. The Mane 6 in shock realise what they'd been doing and voilà!

That would work well. A nice way to make her less oblivious and call out the characters on giving her free passes.

 

How about this for the research thing: Princess Celestia hears about Starlight's misdeeds and orders this to find out if Starlight is evil or not, and she orders Twilight to not help her or do it for her, all she can do is give her a list of good books, and the episode's moral is: You should study hard and study well, but not so hard that you're too tired to give the speech where you read your essay aloud and you pass out, snoring into the mic.

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That would work well. A nice way to make her less oblivious and call out the characters on giving her free passes.

 

How about this for the research thing: Princess Celestia hears about Starlight's misdeeds and orders this to find out if Starlight is evil or not, and she orders Twilight to not help her or do it for her, all she can do is give her a list of good books, and the episode's moral is: You should study hard and study well, but not so hard that you're too tired to give the speech where you read your essay aloud and you pass out, snoring into the mic.

 

Eh? Your idea is a bit odd, I fail to grasp how that's doing Starlight any good here. :o

Besides, Celestia has already seen Starlight is good-natured, since she's saved them from Chrysalis without Twilight's assistance. She may not know she's misguided though...all we know is that Celestia is aware Starlight Glimmer is Twilight's pupil and has made her very first friend - totally true, I promise! They'll be here...soon? :lie:

 

(assuming this Celestia was the real Celestia and not a changeling in disguise, given how she was OOC there :blink: )

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Eh? Your idea is a bit odd, I fail to grasp how that's doing Starlight any good here. :o

Besides, Celestia has already seen Starlight is good-natured, since she's saved them from Chrysalis without Twilight's assistance. She may not know she's misguided though...all we know is that Celestia is aware Starlight Glimmer is Twilight's pupil and has made her very first friend - totally true, I promise! They'll be here...soon? :lie:

 

(assuming this Celestia was the real Celestia and not a changeling in disguise, given how she was OOC there :blink: )

A. Starlight saw nothing wrong with mind controlling friends at the first sign of difficulty or free thought.

B. That is bad.

C. SG did not know it was bad.

D. When she's that powerful, she SHOULD know it's bad.

E. Ergo, she should read books on morality and learn to be a nicer and less evil pony.

F. The essay paper is to make sure she really has learned morality and isn't just faking it to impress Twilight or isn't secretly evil all along.

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A. Starlight saw nothing wrong with mind controlling friends at the first sign of difficulty or free thought.

B. That is bad.

C. SG did not know it was bad.

D. When she's that powerful, she SHOULD know it's bad.

E. Ergo, she should read books on morality and learn to be a nicer and less evil pony.

F. The essay paper is to make sure she really has learned morality and isn't just faking it to impress Twilight or isn't secretly evil all along.

 

I didn't mean the book thing, I meant the Celestia one. Giving Starlight books and having her snore in the mic. I fail to see how that helps Starlight at all :please:

 

I suppose you meant: just give Starlight the books, tell her to point out what is bad and what isn't, Twilight will see the results and decide if she gets a passing mark or not. Something like that, right? And Starlight, so eager to not disappoint Twilight, would spend all of her waking time at it, shutting everything else away until she falls asleep from exhaustion. Twilight fearing the worst when she can't enter the room or anything would then enter with others in tow, ready to go at it...and see Starlight sleeping on top of her notes. They'd be more than half bad, meaning she has a lot to learn still, but seeing how she gave it her all...how could she tell her she's done rather badly without hurting her genuine feelings of trying to better herself?

 

Is that (more or less) what you had in mind? If so, it...could be done I think? I'm just worried it wouldn't occupy the 22 minutes.

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She leaves the show and never comes back, that would improve the overall show.

She leaves the show and never comes back, that would improve the overall show.

Axeing somepony off the show Isn't the same as improving the character, there's a difference. If anything that would just make Starlight worse off...

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