Techno Universal 2,575 August 10, 2017 Share August 10, 2017 Just now, Natasha Xalian said: Scarlet smiles and nuzzles him even more "Yes, my cape is really beautiful, Techno really did a great job with it, and with yours, it is so soft and snuggly, just like you" she giggles and licks his nose before looking up "Anyway, this is where you can usually find me if I am feeling overwhelmed or sad" she says "Or in the gardens" SB: It's like Techno would always find a quiet place to spool down if he got overwhelmed when he was a human. Like he would usaly just escape from life for a while and RP with you after school in his bedroom. He was really happy when he was left alone but he would get extremely irritated and annoyed when his parents came in and asked him to do things. Like he really just wanted to be lazy for a while so he could relax but his parents really did strongly hate laziness in a way so really he had no choice but to do what his parents wanted otherwise his parents would get extremely angry at him and start screaming at him. Anyways what's interesting about Techno is that he's always been dependent on others around him to give to him while Techno would give back to the world. Like Techno was dependent on everyone for his existence and power while everyone was also dependent on him for safety and their own power in their simulated universes. It's like an infinite cycle that must not be broken no matter what. Anyways my cape really is more interesting and fun with it been extremely soft and fluffy and feeling heavy but it's quite lightweight to the wind so it flutters around s lot! (And I was actually born at exactly 9:39PM on the 10th of August in 2001! Let's see if anything interesting happens at that exact minute! ) Message from UNIT: UBC-001 (Original image used made by @chaosprincess signature composed by @Kyoshi) My theory of MLP OC: Techno Universal ask me!: Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphinx-Ara 3,569 August 10, 2017 Author Share August 10, 2017 Just now, Techno Universal said: SB: It's like Techno would always find a quiet place to spool down if he got overwhelmed when he was a human. Like he would usaly just escape from life for a while and RP with you after school in his bedroom. He was really happy when he was left alone but he would get extremely irritated and annoyed when his parents came in and asked him to do things. Like he really just wanted to be lazy for a while so he could relax but his parents really did strongly hate laziness in a way so really he had no choice but to do what his parents wanted otherwise his parents would get extremely angry at him and start screaming at him. Anyways what's interesting about Techno is that he's always been dependent on others around him to give to him while Techno would give back to the world. Like Techno was dependent on everyone for his existence and power while everyone was also dependent on him for safety and their own power in their simulated universes. It's like an infinite cycle that must not be broken no matter what. Anyways my cape really is more interesting and fun with it been extremely soft and fluffy and feeling heavy but it's quite lightweight to the wind so it flutters around s lot! (And I was actually born at exactly 9:39PM on the 10th of August in 2001! Let's see if anything interesting happens at that exact minute! ) Scarlet smiles and nods as she nods while listening to what Sunburst was saying "That is a lot like me, though almost the opposite. I was always so giving of things like my time, effort and to an extent my money, but now everyone is giving to me now that I am a pony" she says "and although I loved the freedom of living on my own, well with housemates but I had my own time and such, it felt lonely, how-ever whenever Techno was online and we roleplayed, I always felt the happiest at those moments, because he knew that I was subtly telling him own feelings for him through the roleplay" Signature by Myself! "Ara Ara" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techno Universal 2,575 August 10, 2017 Share August 10, 2017 Just now, Natasha Xalian said: Scarlet smiles and nods as she nods while listening to what Sunburst was saying "That is a lot like me, though almost the opposite. I was always so giving of things like my time, effort and to an extent my money, but now everyone is giving to me now that I am a pony" she says "and although I loved the freedom of living on my own, well with housemates but I had my own time and such, it felt lonely, how-ever whenever Techno was online and we roleplayed, I always felt the happiest at those moments, because he knew that I was subtly telling him own feelings for him through the roleplay" (And you literally posted that last post at the exact moment I was born! Plus just then I had a very surreal flashback of my mom giving birth to me at Blackburn private hospital. ) SB: It's like because Techno had not much freedom when he was living with his parents but you literally gave him freedom in a way. Like he was able to do things in the RP that he would never be able to do in real life and that made him extremely satisfied and happy. Plus you and Techno had literally established a deep mindset connection through the RP as he was able to share with you the deepest and most mysterious parts about him with you while those things would ruin his life if anyone else other than you Scarlet knew about those deep aspects of Techno. Plus when you and Techno met for the first time you got a true and strong feeling that you were truly not alone in this world and there was an incredible person who was a perfected version of you that lived not far from you Scarlet! Message from UNIT: UBC-001 (Original image used made by @chaosprincess signature composed by @Kyoshi) My theory of MLP OC: Techno Universal ask me!: Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphinx-Ara 3,569 August 10, 2017 Author Share August 10, 2017 Just now, Techno Universal said: (And you literally posted that last post at the exact moment I was born! Plus just then I had a very surreal flashback of my mom giving birth to me at Blackburn private hospital. ) SB: It's like because Techno had not much freedom when he was living with his parents but you literally gave him freedom in a way. Like he was able to do things in the RP that he would never be able to do in real life and that made him extremely satisfied and happy. Plus you and Techno had literally established a deep mindset connection through the RP as he was able to share with you the deepest and most mysterious parts about him with you while those things would ruin his life if anyone else other than you Scarlet knew about those deep aspects of Techno. Plus when you and Techno met for the first time you got a true and strong feeling that you were truly not alone in this world and there was an incredible person who was a perfected version of you that lived not far from you Scarlet! Scarlet smiles and nods "I'll be honest, I had to truly fight hte urge to hug him and cry when I first met him, it was truly incredibly hard for me, but we kept in touch for so long, and when we had planned to meet on a regular basis, and on his 18th birthday, I gave him the biggest hug I could muster up and cried into his chest as he held me close" she sighs "I'm sorry Sunburst, we're dating and yet here I am talking about Techno and my feelings for him.." Signature by Myself! "Ara Ara" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techno Universal 2,575 August 10, 2017 Share August 10, 2017 4 hours ago, Natasha Xalian said: Scarlet smiles and nods "I'll be honest, I had to truly fight hte urge to hug him and cry when I first met him, it was truly incredibly hard for me, but we kept in touch for so long, and when we had planned to meet on a regular basis, and on his 18th birthday, I gave him the biggest hug I could muster up and cried into his chest as he held me close" she sighs "I'm sorry Sunburst, we're dating and yet here I am talking about Techno and my feelings for him.." SB: It's okay that you have a bit of a relationship with Techno as I'm more like a second friend to you Scarlet! Plus he even had a real urge himself to cuddle you on the train Scarlet but he was able to override it so he didn't hug you or kiss you back then! Anyways I wonder how Techno would of reacted to getting a cape like his current one back in 2017 as a gift from you? 1 Message from UNIT: UBC-001 (Original image used made by @chaosprincess signature composed by @Kyoshi) My theory of MLP OC: Techno Universal ask me!: Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphinx-Ara 3,569 August 10, 2017 Author Share August 10, 2017 3 hours ago, Techno Universal said: SB: It's okay that you have a bit of a relationship with Techno as I'm more like a second friend to you Scarlet! Plus he even had a real urge himself to cuddle you on the train Scarlet but he was able to override it so he didn't hug you or kiss you back then! Anyways I wonder how Techno would of reacted to getting a cape like his current one back in 2017 as a gift from you? (waiting for my bus now) Scarlet smiles "Thanks Sunburst and I think Techno would have been overjoyed to get a cape from me back then, and if I had more time, the space, the materials and the know how, I would have made him one back then" Signature by Myself! "Ara Ara" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techno Universal 2,575 August 10, 2017 Share August 10, 2017 40 minutes ago, Natasha Xalian said: (waiting for my bus now) Scarlet smiles "Thanks Sunburst and I think Techno would have been overjoyed to get a cape from me back then, and if I had more time, the space, the materials and the know how, I would have made him one back then" (Just got up a moment ago! Anyways I got up around 20 minutes ago! ) SB: Yeah it's like he would do the same for you to Scarlet back then if he somehow got his hands on a universal energy computer. Then that would allow him to spawn in a cape for you back then but still if he did get a cape back then the system speed dial in his head would of literally shot up beyond it's limit. Anyways even a number of his animations include a computerised interface in Techno's point of view and there is a power usage dial in the interface. Plus that dial instantly goes up to maximum when he activates his attack mode switch. Anyways he would of also been doing his own digital artwork for you if he could but he really couldn't because he didn't have time to because of school and other things in his life at the time. 1 Message from UNIT: UBC-001 (Original image used made by @chaosprincess signature composed by @Kyoshi) My theory of MLP OC: Techno Universal ask me!: Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphinx-Ara 3,569 August 10, 2017 Author Share August 10, 2017 23 minutes ago, Techno Universal said: (Just got up a moment ago! Anyways I got up around 20 minutes ago! ) SB: Yeah it's like he would do the same for you to Scarlet back then if he somehow got his hands on a universal energy computer. Then that would allow him to spawn in a cape for you back then but still if he did get a cape back then the system speed dial in his head would of literally shot up beyond it's limit. Anyways even a number of his animations include a computerised interface in Techno's point of view and there is a power usage dial in the interface. Plus that dial instantly goes up to maximum when he activates his attack mode switch. Anyways he would of also been doing his own digital artwork for you if he could but he really couldn't because he didn't have time to because of school and other things in his life at the time. (I'm at the station now, bus got here early. I'm pretty hard to miss, I'm wearing grey jeans, a fluffy black jumper, a blue beanie and a studded collar. I also have a sword art online shoulder bag and a blue also bag) Scaret nods and smiles "I still recall how nervous I was when I first met him" she says with a giggle. Signature by Myself! "Ara Ara" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techno Universal 2,575 August 11, 2017 Share August 11, 2017 9 hours ago, Natasha Xalian said: (I'm at the station now, bus got here early. I'm pretty hard to miss, I'm wearing grey jeans, a fluffy black jumper, a blue beanie and a studded collar. I also have a sword art online shoulder bag and a blue also bag) Scaret nods and smiles "I still recall how nervous I was when I first met him" she says with a giggle. SB: Yeah apparently the first time you tried to meet Techno he had a bit of a mix up as recently he had seen a lot of people who looked very similar to you Scarlet and that had made him less sensitive for your appearance. Anyways he was extremely annoyed with himself over it but apparently you and Techno tried to meet again the following week and you succeed then. Message from UNIT: UBC-001 (Original image used made by @chaosprincess signature composed by @Kyoshi) My theory of MLP OC: Techno Universal ask me!: Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphinx-Ara 3,569 August 11, 2017 Author Share August 11, 2017 Just now, Techno Universal said: SB: Yeah apparently the first time you tried to meet Techno he had a bit of a mix up as recently he had seen a lot of people who looked very similar to you Scarlet and that had made him less sensitive for your appearance. Anyways he was extremely annoyed with himself over it but apparently you and Techno tried to meet again the following week and you succeed then. Scarlet nods with a sigh "Indeed, I was rather annoyed with myself as well, not only was I really tired, but I was really upset and started feeling that he hated me for seemingly bailing out on him.." she says and looks down at her new appearance. Signature by Myself! "Ara Ara" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techno Universal 2,575 August 11, 2017 Share August 11, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Natasha Xalian said: Scarlet nods with a sigh "Indeed, I was rather annoyed with myself as well, not only was I really tired, but I was really upset and started feeling that he hated me for seemingly bailing out on him.." she says and looks down at her new appearance. SB: It's like Techno told you to just be persistent to find him if you get on that train. Like he told you to go to the front carriage and in the successful attempt he was right there waiting for you! He even stood out as he was the only school student in that carriage! Anyways it's almost impossible to get Techno to hate you over something like that! It's because his bond with you was extremely strong so something like that would be considered a mistake to him and he would learn from them and he even tried to get you to learn from that mistake. It's just it's a really good ability to be able to learn from your mistakes! Edited August 11, 2017 by Techno Universal Message from UNIT: UBC-001 (Original image used made by @chaosprincess signature composed by @Kyoshi) My theory of MLP OC: Techno Universal ask me!: Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphinx-Ara 3,569 August 11, 2017 Author Share August 11, 2017 34 minutes ago, Techno Universal said: SB: It's like Techno told you to just be persistent to find him if you get on that train. Like he told you to go to the front carriage and in the successful attempt he was right there waiting for you! He even stood out as he was the only school student in that carriage! Anyways it's almost impossible to get Techno to hate you over something like that! It's because his bond with you was extremely strong so something like that would be considered a mistake to him and he would learn from them and he even tried to get you to learn from that mistake. It's just it's a really good ability to be able to learn from your mistakes! Scarlet nods "It was so much easier once we actually met each other after that, cos we then knew exactly what each other looked like" she says and nuzzles him "And then on his 18th birthday, when we both pretty much ran towards each other..he was still being his silly and goofy self" she giggles Signature by Myself! "Ara Ara" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techno Universal 2,575 August 11, 2017 Share August 11, 2017 13 minutes ago, Natasha Xalian said: Scarlet nods "It was so much easier once we actually met each other after that, cos we then knew exactly what each other looked like" she says and nuzzles him "And then on his 18th birthday, when we both pretty much ran towards each other..he was still being his silly and goofy self" she giggles SB: Yeah it's obvious you would! Anyways I just got a flashback from Techno and it's an interesting one. Apparently in 2017 his parents got him and his brother fluffy throw rug blankets. Techno's was navy blue and because it was quite a bit bigger than a bed sheet for a king single bed he would often think of it as something very similar to the cape that he has now. Like when he was completely alone he would cuddle up in it and he would even at times actually wear it as a cape and he really enjoyed it. It gave him like an early feel to what having his massive cape in the future would be like and it was a really deep part of him at that point as he knew that everyone around him and even his parents would judge him very highly over it and that's why he had to keep it a deep secret until you showed up and you were the only person that he knew wouldn't judge him over that part of him. It's likely because he saw that exact same component in you Scarlet so he could see that you were in the same boat as him. Message from UNIT: UBC-001 (Original image used made by @chaosprincess signature composed by @Kyoshi) My theory of MLP OC: Techno Universal ask me!: Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphinx-Ara 3,569 August 11, 2017 Author Share August 11, 2017 30 minutes ago, Techno Universal said: SB: Yeah it's obvious you would! Anyways I just got a flashback from Techno and it's an interesting one. Apparently in 2017 his parents got him and his brother fluffy throw rug blankets. Techno's was navy blue and because it was quite a bit bigger than a bed sheet for a king single bed he would often think of it as something very similar to the cape that he has now. Like when he was completely alone he would cuddle up in it and he would even at times actually wear it as a cape and he really enjoyed it. It gave him like an early feel to what having his massive cape in the future would be like and it was a really deep part of him at that point as he knew that everyone around him and even his parents would judge him very highly over it and that's why he had to keep it a deep secret until you showed up and you were the only person that he knew wouldn't judge him over that part of him. It's likely because he saw that exact same component in you Scarlet so he could see that you were in the same boat as him. Scarlet smiles and nods "Indeed, he was the first person I felt like I could fully open up to, despite his age, he was quite smart and we had known each other really well by his 18th birthday, and well..the way he got me to be quiet for a moment was..." she blushes deeply "he kissed me" Signature by Myself! "Ara Ara" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techno Universal 2,575 August 11, 2017 Share August 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, Natasha Xalian said: Scarlet smiles and nods "Indeed, he was the first person I felt like I could fully open up to, despite his age, he was quite smart and we had known each other really well by his 18th birthday, and well..the way he got me to be quiet for a moment was..." she blushes deeply "he kissed me" SB: Yeah like by his instincts he would always hug and kiss his parents but then he was able to be efetionet with you in the exact same way after his 18th birthday. Plus Scarlet you even allowed Techno to know himself a lot deeper and better than he could ever imagine plus I think he was doing the same for you! Message from UNIT: UBC-001 (Original image used made by @chaosprincess signature composed by @Kyoshi) My theory of MLP OC: Techno Universal ask me!: Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphinx-Ara 3,569 August 11, 2017 Author Share August 11, 2017 19 minutes ago, Techno Universal said: SB: Yeah like by his instincts he would always hug and kiss his parents but then he was able to be efetionet with you in the exact same way after his 18th birthday. Plus Scarlet you even allowed Techno to know himself a lot deeper and better than he could ever imagine plus I think he was doing the same for you! Scarlet nods "Yeah, but with me, it was more than just being affectionate" she says "There was a deep love for each other and an even deeper understanding of each other just like you said" she says "I waited for him, just like I promised" Signature by Myself! "Ara Ara" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techno Universal 2,575 August 11, 2017 Share August 11, 2017 19 minutes ago, Natasha Xalian said: Scarlet nods "Yeah, but with me, it was more than just being affectionate" she says "There was a deep love for each other and an even deeper understanding of each other just like you said" she says "I waited for him, just like I promised" SB: To be honest he was waiting for you to in a way with that situation. But still he concluded that he was the one to make the move of affection. But still it was beyond love between you and Techno as both of you were universal beings since the beginning and Techno was able to see that in you and raise your awareness of it! Message from UNIT: UBC-001 (Original image used made by @chaosprincess signature composed by @Kyoshi) My theory of MLP OC: Techno Universal ask me!: Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphinx-Ara 3,569 August 11, 2017 Author Share August 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Techno Universal said: SB: To be honest he was waiting for you to in a way with that situation. But still he concluded that he was the one to make the move of affection. But still it was beyond love between you and Techno as both of you were universal beings since the beginning and Techno was able to see that in you and raise your awareness of it! "Most definitely, and the wait was almost like not only because of his love for me, but also because he wanted to train my abilities and test my limits" Scarlet says and nuzzles Sunburst "mm isn't this sunset so beautiful?" Signature by Myself! "Ara Ara" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techno Universal 2,575 August 11, 2017 Share August 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Natasha Xalian said: "Most definitely, and the wait was almost like not only because of his love for me, but also because he wanted to train my abilities and test my limits" Scarlet says and nuzzles Sunburst "mm isn't this sunset so beautiful?" SB: Yeah it's actually because he wanted you to be stronger and more capable so you could push through life without his help. But it was also so you could gain more independence than ever before and also so you could see your own mindset and make changes to it at will. Anyways this sunset somehow symbolises something. Sunburst then got a flashback of Techno looking at the city of Melbourne during the sunset with his headphones and sunglasses on... SB: Okay that sunset just gave me a flashback of Techno as a human looking at the city of Melbourne with his headphones and sunglasses on. He really looked like a DJ plus even that reminds me that Techno's dad was the DJ at the AFL Hawthorn premiership celebration in the early 90s but I think it was in 1991. He was literally the DJ at a famous and historical event plus it was a really funny experience for him as everyone just wanted him to play WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS and the Hawthorn team anthem all night. Message from UNIT: UBC-001 (Original image used made by @chaosprincess signature composed by @Kyoshi) My theory of MLP OC: Techno Universal ask me!: Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphinx-Ara 3,569 August 11, 2017 Author Share August 11, 2017 12 minutes ago, Techno Universal said: SB: Yeah it's actually because he wanted you to be stronger and more capable so you could push through life without his help. But it was also so you could gain more independence than ever before and also so you could see your own mindset and make changes to it at will. Anyways this sunset somehow symbolises something. Sunburst then got a flashback of Techno looking at the city of Melbourne during the sunset with his headphones and sunglasses on... SB: Okay that sunset just gave me a flashback of Techno as a human looking at the city of Melbourne with his headphones and sunglasses on. He really looked like a DJ plus even that reminds me that Techno's dad was the DJ at the AFL Hawthorn premiership celebration in the early 90s but I think it was in 1991. He was literally the DJ at a famous and historical event plus it was a really funny experience for him as everyone just wanted him to play WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS and the Hawthorn team anthem all night. Scarlet smiles and nods "I remember he told me that once while one of our serious talks together, but that also reminds me of some of my earlier memories with him, once we were able to openly date each other, but I'm here with you love" Signature by Myself! "Ara Ara" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techno Universal 2,575 August 11, 2017 Share August 11, 2017 Just now, Natasha Xalian said: Scarlet smiles and nods "I remember he told me that once while one of our serious talks together, but that also reminds me of some of my earlier memories with him, once we were able to openly date each other, but I'm here with you love" SB: To be honest we're all very flexibly minded in equestria just like Techno! Anyways I believe the gifts you gave Techno on the train when you met him for the first time were used by Techno to make a really good and funny stop-motion animation video! He even had both live recorded footage like when Nightmare Moon and Celestia were in that Lego train in his room and when Techno came into his room to put the two toys on his Lego workbench. He then showed you the video the next time he met you on the train! Message from UNIT: UBC-001 (Original image used made by @chaosprincess signature composed by @Kyoshi) My theory of MLP OC: Techno Universal ask me!: Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphinx-Ara 3,569 August 11, 2017 Author Share August 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Techno Universal said: SB: To be honest we're all very flexibly minded in equestria just like Techno! Anyways I believe the gifts you gave Techno on the train when you met him for the first time were used by Techno to make a really good and funny stop-motion animation video! He even had both live recorded footage like when Nightmare Moon and Celestia were in that Lego train in his room and when Techno came into his room to put the two toys on his Lego workbench. He then showed you the video the next time he met you on the train! Scarlet giggles "Oh I remember that, it was quite funny, but he also had a hidden message in the video that he edited in, he was always good with making hidden things in his art and videos for me" she says and looks around, and then looks at her appearance in a puddle of water, she was now a light blue with a long dark blue mane and tail. Signature by Myself! "Ara Ara" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techno Universal 2,575 August 11, 2017 Share August 11, 2017 19 minutes ago, Natasha Xalian said: Scarlet giggles "Oh I remember that, it was quite funny, but he also had a hidden message in the video that he edited in, he was always good with making hidden things in his art and videos for me" she says and looks around, and then looks at her appearance in a puddle of water, she was now a light blue with a long dark blue mane and tail. SB: To be honest you now legitimately look like a bata development version of Techno with your new look! Message from UNIT: UBC-001 (Original image used made by @chaosprincess signature composed by @Kyoshi) My theory of MLP OC: Techno Universal ask me!: Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphinx-Ara 3,569 August 11, 2017 Author Share August 11, 2017 Just now, Techno Universal said: SB: To be honest you now legitimately look like a bata development version of Techno with your new look! (I hadn't even thought of that lol) Scarlet smiles "I do, and it makes a lot of sense" she says with a smile and flicks her ears until she hears a voice behind her, that she believed she had heard say "Yes the sunset is beautiful, but not as beautiful as you" she then looks around to see Techno and smiles Signature by Myself! "Ara Ara" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techno Universal 2,575 August 11, 2017 Share August 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, Natasha Xalian said: (I hadn't even thought of that lol) Scarlet smiles "I do, and it makes a lot of sense" she says with a smile and flicks her ears until she hears a voice behind her, that she believed she had heard say "Yes the sunset is beautiful, but not as beautiful as you" she then looks around to see Techno and smiles TU: Well I'm sure Sunburst has told you about a lot of interesting things about me Scarlet! Anyways I thought I should join you up here and this massive window really looks like the window in my apartment in Singapore in my holiday there. Like I would see the sunset in exactly the same way as that from the window on my apartment in Singapore. Anyways with your real appearance you really look like the old bata development version of myself! Like you have the exact same mane and tail as me and even your body colour is one of the primary colours in me! Anyways it looks like your cape design has changed colours to adapt to your new colour scheme! Like apparently it's deep blue that fades to white now instead of purple! Anyways I did sort of did have my own cape when I was a teen and that was in the form of that massive fluffy blanket that Sunburst told you about! Message from UNIT: UBC-001 (Original image used made by @chaosprincess signature composed by @Kyoshi) My theory of MLP OC: Techno Universal ask me!: Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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