Season 7: The Season of Jerk Ponies

[Splashee 28,601]

On 12/21/2017 at 4:28 AM, AlbaTross said:

Is it just me or has there been an unprecedented amount of jerks this past season?

Season 7 was probably the best season, but you are right. A lot of episodes were raising the drama to a new level. I don't see a problem with this, since it brought a lot of new and cool stuff to the show I wasn't expecting. At the same time, going in that direction really meant going back made the show kinda dull. At the end of Season 7, I was not very engaged anymore.

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On 5/19/2020 at 6:30 PM, Super Splashee said:

Season 7 was probably the best season, but you are right. A lot of episodes were raising the drama to a new level. I don't see a problem with this, since it brought a lot of new and cool stuff to the show I wasn't expecting. At the same time, going in that direction really meant going back made the show kinda dull. At the end of Season 7, I was not very engaged anymore.

I respect your opinion, but I wouldn't Call Season 7 the best season. I absolutely hated the F&M episode for these reasons:

I see that it was supposed to be A commentary-type of episode, but it failed terribly at it. First of all, I noticed the journal was written to show the events that occurred during Season 4 to Season 5 & Not before or after. Many of the arguments The Idiotic & Heartless Ponies made about the mane six during the episode don't really apply anymore despite the show's faults.

I can see why some people didn't like Rarity, but I don't think she was very hated during that time. The guy talking about how Twilight would've been more interesting if she stayed in Canterlot makes no sense since the journal starts after Twilight became an Alicorn, which invalidates the "Twilight was better before she got wings" argument.

Now of course, Some fans did complain that Fluttershy learned the same lesson over again, but before the episode was made, I'm pretty sure the writers fixed the problem. The facts I just stated makes how Ponyville treated the mane 6 in the episode not only immature, petty and cruel but mostly confusing now that I think about it. I do recall that The writers recognized the problem with Fluttershy so they made her more aggressive. That'd be like if season 4 had an episode calling out Twilight giving out every lesson and it would be an outdated type of episode, but it would become a serious problem that the writers themselves would start to recognize and get fixed. 

Second of all, there are times when the arguments are just plain cruel, wrong & downright stupid. This mostly just applies to Rarity's backlash. The only reason given is that Rarity apparently stated that she thinks she did all the work in Simple Ways when that's not true. She said she put in a lot of work and that it was the hardest thing she'd ever done, but she didn't say she did all the work. The only other argument is that they don't think Rarity has learned any of her lessons.

First of all, How would they know? Second of all, They could say that for any of the mane six. It honestly makes me think the writers couldn't think of a good reason for things to go wrong for Rarity so they just made stuff up. Thirdly, the friendship journal has a different purpose than the TV show. I get that The journal was supposed to be a metaphor for the show itself, but it just doesn't work because the purpose of the journal is sole as an educational tool while the TV show is also to entertain.

All of the talks about the mane six like characters don't work because the journal is not entertainment. Any criticisms against the mane six made from the book are automatically a cruel jerk because the journal only documents the lessons made at the end of each episode. The journal does not set out of making characters and tell stories. It's autobiographical and is made to share lessons. The TV show, on the other hand, is fiction. It does set out to tell stories and create characters.

A fair comparison for the journal would be if the TV show was just the friendship lessons from seasons 4-5. Not the rest of the episodes. Just the lessons. If that was true, this episode shouldn't have been made because there'd be no fan criticism to base it on. You can't criticize something like that unless it gives a rancid moral. But that's not one of the criticisms that the episode goes for. Only the stuff that makes no sense in-universe. So to me As a commentary on the fanbase, it came across as insulting and just terrible.

When Ponyville argued that the mane six aren't real characters, It doesn't work when complaining about the criticisms of this show. It brings up arguments that make no sense in the show's universe and expects the audience to take the episode seriously when it takes the arguments down. By the end, the episode gives such little of a shit about justifying these arguments in-universe that they are literally using words like "character". Honestly, if the writers had such a big problem with the fans about the criticisms of the show, they should've sent out a tweet talking about it or something like that and start to accept Some criticisms from the fanbase and write better episodes for MLP to educate Kids and adults about relationships, friendship and stuff like that.

Another reason why I hated the episode One Bit because The way Ponyville acted was Just awful. Another reason why I found the Fame & Misfortune episode to be absolutely awful because Not only was it horribly written, it also made Ponyville, The LITERAL Hometown The Mane 6 protected since the beginning of the show, into complete Idiotic and heartless morons. The way Ponyville treated The Mane 6 after what they've done to protect Equestria it came across to me as petty and incredibly immature, which are the two traits that describe the writers for making this episode.

I'm not saying the show's fandom was the sole reason for the episode being created but The writers were pretty stupid to go like "Yeah, let's dedicate an entire episode towards taking shit about the fandom that made your show go far beyond typical "Kid's Show" syndication" 

I mean come On! Twilight was the Damn Princess of Friendship Around that time for crying out loud, Her and her friends never deserved the cruel treatment they received in that episode, and it kind of made Twilight becoming a princess along with The Mane 5 protecting Equestria from evil feel like it was all for nothing if Ponyville just spits in their faces for it. 

There are a lot of Bad MLP Episodes, but the episode Fame & Misfortune took the title with ease. It also felt like A stupid Teen Titans Go! episode trying to make its critics look like idiots.

Do you agree or disagree with me on that? I still hate the F&M episode to this day because The Mane 6 never deserved the terrible treatment from Ponyville. I also found the episode to be a staple of the pride and hubris of the later show-runners.

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On 5/19/2020 at 6:30 PM, Super Splashee said:

Season 7 was probably the best season, but you are right. A lot of episodes were raising the drama to a new level. I don't see a problem with this, since it brought a lot of new and cool stuff to the show I wasn't expecting. At the same time, going in that direction really meant going back made the show kinda dull. At the end of Season 7, I was not very engaged anymore.

Super Splashee, Did you get the reply I sent you on why I hated the Fame & Misfortune? 

I still couldn't find myself all that drawn to it, Especially with the townsponies being strangely unappreciative and overly nitpicky of these same ponies who SAVED Them from Evil numerous times in the past...like, what the hell?! And then I guess they were also trying to go for a "Nitpicking doesn't equal legit criticism" message but idk, I dunno if they fully got that message out the right way. Overall, The episode was teriible. 

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3 hours ago, YoungJustice12334 said:

Super Splashee, Did you get the reply I sent you on why I hated the Fame & Misfortune? 

I still couldn't find myself all that drawn to it, Especially with the townsponies being strangely unappreciative and overly nitpicky of these same ponies who SAVED Them from Evil numerous times in the past...like, what the hell?! And then I guess they were also trying to go for a "Nitpicking doesn't equal legit criticism" message but idk, I dunno if they fully got that message out the right way. Overall, The episode was teriible. 

I got a lot of the same replies, yes.

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On 5/24/2020 at 1:04 PM, Super Splashee said:

I got a lot of the same replies, yes.

Okay, sorry about that, I won't do it again. So do you agree or disagree with me on me reasoning of why the episode was bad?  

Let’s see, the episode was being more concerned with spitefully taking shots at the adult fanbase than being entertaining and teaching a good lesson about friendship and relationships to the audience. I know some fans can be a bit Toxic, but I hated how it Portrayed said fans as nitpicking, whiny assholes just because they don’t unswerving praise every single thing in the show to high heaven, and not all fans are like that. Refuting criticism by using meaningless thought-terminating clichés and having the Mane Six sing a patronising song that basically says “Well we’re not flawless so shut up and stop criticising us”. That was a bad move for Hasbro to be Bitter instead of accepting some of the fans criticisms. 

Twilight was the Princess of Friendship Around the time for crying out loud, Her & her friends never deserved the cruel treatment they received in that episode, &  it kind of made Twilight becoming a princess along with The Mane 5 protecting Equestria from evil feel like it was all for nothing if Ponyville just spits in their faces for it...I mean, Jesus.

If I was Twilight, I wouldn't tolerate the toxic environment and would've fought back against the cruel environment for going too far and constantly harassing me.

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On 5/24/2020 at 1:04 PM, Splashee said:

I got a lot of the same replies, yes.

Okay, sorry about that, I won't do it again. So do you agree with me on me reasoning of why the episode was bad?  

Twilight was the Princess of Friendship Around the time for crying out loud, and The Mane 6 never deserved the cruel treatment they received in that episode. Honestly, it kind of made Twilight becoming A princess along with The Mane 5 protecting Equestria from evil feel like it was all for nothing if Ponyville just spits in their faces for it...

If I was Twilight, I wouldn't tolerate the toxic environment and would've fought back against the cruel environment for going too far and constantly harassing me.

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3 hours ago, YoungJustice12334 said:

If I was Twilight, I wouldn't tolerate the toxic environment and would've fought back against the cruel environment for going too far and constantly harassing me.

I don't agree with you.

Season 7 was really good in my book, and I don't feel like they were jerks.

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5 minutes ago, Splashee said:

I don't agree with you.

Season 7 was really good in my book, and I don't feel like they were jerks.

How so?! Even if you ignore the terribly written slights lobbed at the Brony fandom, what you still have is an awful episode; Twilight used the experience of her and her friends to spread the message of Friendship but it somehow backfires because it portrays Equestria's population as impulsive idiots, and a good portion of the episode is devoted to showing us just how over-zealous the readers are as they basically ruin the lives of the Mane-6 in a matter of a single day which I hated...

It's hard to watch Applejack’s home getting invaded, Pinkie Pie getting laughed at whenever she talks, Rainbow Dash never getting two seconds of peace, Rarity’s business being boycotted, and Fluttershy gets harassed in the streets. How is that not Ponyville being Heartless Jerks to The Mane 6?!

I know some MLP fans are probably Toxic, but I hated how it Portrayed Bronies/Fans of the show as nitpicking, whiny assholes just because they don’t unswerving praise every single thing in the show to high heaven, and Not all fans are like that! I found the episode to be A staple of the show-runners pride and hubris honestly...

The way Ponyville treated them after what they've done to protect Equestria it came across to me as petty and incredibly immature, which are the two traits that describe the writers for making this episode. The writers were pretty stupid to go like "Yeah, let's dedicate an entire episode towards taking jabs at the fandom that made your show go far beyond typical "KiD's ShOw syndication" I am not saying the fandom was the sole reason but my points are still valid.

I know you probably won't agree, but do you at least understand where I'm coming from?