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Forgive me Furina, for I have sinned.

I was sitting at 71 pity (guaranteed) on the character banner, so basically I could pick a character of my choice. While I wanted Neuvillette, I also wanted to wait and save for Furina, so I decided to gamble on weapon banner to see what the fate says. 

I pulled for weapons and after failing and getting Staff of Homa at 24 pity, I pulled like 40 more times to see if I can get the book, but I didn't get anything, so it was time to pass. ...buuut today, in this last day, I couldn't resist, and decided to pull until next 5* and thankfully I got Tome of the Eternal Flow at 67 pity.

So with that, I decided to yoink Neuvillette as well.

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Now I'm broke. No primos, no pity. :pip-err:

But there's still plenty of time to save for Furina, no matter what happens, no more pulling until she arrives.

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That surely sums it all up! :PIPPIPHURRAY:

Yeah, but there's lots of exploration left for me, including the entire second part of desert. Lots of primos. Furina will be the motivation to get to everything I've been procrastinating with. :mlp_icwudt:

I'm sure I'll have enough for one 5*, but if I won't win 50/50 (which would be 4th in a row IIRC), I'm not sure how it will go...

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@Light Blade Yeah, I should, that will be a long way. :P I'm using it all the time now, won't open a single chest without having that map opened. :proud:

He's fun to play, I think it will be worth it. :darling:

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I made an another trial with Cloud Retainer and noticed, that her healing over time heals ALL characters, which is quite nice. I was thinking she'll be a great choice for Furina. Not only swirling hydro for RES shred, but poggers constant healing. ...and perhaps it'll be a good opportunity to ressurect Xiao, who I never really used lol.
I ended up pulling for her and...

  • At 80 pity I lost 50/50 for the 5th time (!!) to Dehya (C1)
  • At 77 pity I got that guaranteed illuminated bird

Then I decided to throw some more at Nahida and

  • At 11 pity I finally got out of that horrible streak and got Nahida (C3)

That Nahida pull saved the day, but losing 50/50 5 times in a row still hurts. I had high pity on weapons, so made few pulls and...

  • At 69 pity I got Wolf's Gravestone.

 

And that's where over 20000 primos went... Results depressing as ever lately, but at least there's that little green bean. 💚e-cocosmile.png

 

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Yay me I won 50/50 and got C1 for Neuvillette :izzy-shine:

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Now I have everything I wanted from this banner, so back to saving~

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I got the gaslighting, gatekeepeing girlboss tomboy from Khaenri'ah. Her style is not as comfortable as that of Hu Tao since the little gremlin comes online far more swiftly, but Arle is better at conserving momentum because her pyro infusion doesn't go away on its own unless you heal her. Due to her nature as an on-field attacker, a shield is nearly mandatory.

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5 hours ago, Goat-kun said:

I got the gaslighting, gatekeepeing girlboss tomboy from Khaenri'ah. Her style is not as comfortable as that of Hu Tao since the little gremlin comes online far more swiftly, but Arle is better at conserving momentum because her pyro infusion doesn't go away on its own unless you heal her. Due to her nature as an on-field attacker, a shield is nearly mandatory.

 

Yeah, she has pros and cons when compared to Hu Tao, but seems to be fun to play overall. I have Hu Tao with Staff of Homa, so I'm a bit unsure whether to pull for Arle or not.

I did make like 40 or 50 pulls and stopped at 75 pity. Not sure if I should try getting her, given I'm about to face 50/50. Also, the weapon banner sucks. I already was unlucky enough to get that bow in earlier banners, and I have no plans whatsoever to pull for Lyney.

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Well I threw another ten pull and got Keqing at 78 pity.

This game never fails to disappoint lmao.

I wonder if my luck will be as horrible in Wuthering Waves :mlp_icwudt:

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12 hours ago, Rikifive said:

Well I threw another ten pull and got Keqing at 78 pity.

This game never fails to disappoint lmao.

I wonder if my luck will be as horrible in Wuthering Waves :mlp_icwudt:

At least it wasn't 90.

 

Hu is likely enough as far as Abyss is concerned, especially with signature. I haven't crowned Arle's auto yet but I can't see her becoming significantly better pyro dps than Hu. Unless you're a fan of the character, you haven't lost much.

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Welp, my Khaenrian tomboy is C1 after 43 pulls without any streamer's luck. It happens sometimes.

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On 2024-04-28 at 1:35 PM, Goat-kun said:

At least it wasn't 90.

 

 

 

Hu is likely enough as far as Abyss is concerned, especially with signature. I haven't crowned Arle's auto yet but I can't see her becoming significantly better pyro dps than Hu. Unless you're a fan of the character, you haven't lost much.

 

I'm not too big of a fan of her, but I liked her gameplay, far more than Hu's.

I indeed haven't lost much, I've no problems with the Abyss with what I have, but I did hope for a bit of refreshing gameplay in this otherwise rather dead game heh.

On 2024-05-04 at 5:04 PM, Goat-kun said:

Welp, my Khaenrian tomboy is C1 after 43 pulls without any streamer's luck. It happens sometimes.

 

Nice, inb4 you secretly are a streamer~

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On 2024-05-23 at 5:43 PM, Rikifive said:

I'm not too big of a fan of her, but I liked her gameplay, far more than Hu's.

I indeed haven't lost much, I've no problems with the Abyss with what I have, but I did hope for a bit of refreshing gameplay in this otherwise rather dead game heh.

Nice, inb4 you secretly are a streamer~

Well, Arle has problems fighting a small number of big enemies since her damage falls off so darn fast, and she lacks supports that would synergize with her gameplay. Hu doesn't have such damage fall off.

 

Anyhow, given that, after C1 Arle, I've now gotten Wanderer and Clorinde with only a single Welkin to my name, Hoyo must be really shitting bricks, or I have Kazuma-grade luck.

 

Genshin getting better only because of competition does kinda feel like a kick in the nuts. We'll see where it goes. WuWa has better combat, but Genshin has a more interesting meta with the elements. My luck has been so-so so far. Got two instances of some shota lion dancer. Fetched some nature loli cause healer. Defeated some guy who turned into a goat. Great to see some representation https://buffy.mlpforums.com/imageproxy/3Y6uKBJ.png.71535bf361a230ada5f5aa734ee04158.png

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1 hour ago, Goat-kun said:

Well, Arle has problems fighting a small number of big enemies since her damage falls off so darn fast, and she lacks supports that would synergize with her gameplay. Hu doesn't have such damage fall off.

 

 

Anyhow, given that, after C1 Arle, I've now gotten Wanderer and Clorinde with only a single Welkin to my name, Hoyo must be really shitting bricks, or I have Kazuma-grade luck.

 

 

 

Genshin getting better only because of competition does kinda feel like a kick in the nuts. We'll see where it goes. WuWa has better combat, but Genshin has a more interesting meta with the elements. My luck has been so-so so far. Got two instances of some shota lion dancer. Fetched some nature loli cause healer. Defeated some guy who turned into a goat. Great to see some representation https://buffy.mlpforums.com/imageproxy/3Y6uKBJ.png.71535bf361a230ada5f5aa734ee04158.png

Arle has her problems, that's true. Her gameplay looks fun, and I think her infusion is a bit easier to manage as far as open world goes, but yeah, the dropping DPS might be harder to manage in more demanding content. To be fair, I doubt I'd take her to the abyss, I already have two teams I'm satisfied with. I just wanted her for the fun, so indeed not a big loss I guess. 

Man, I hope I'll get that lucky when I start pulling. I've been saving since Arle, and now I really hope for Sigewinne to be good/fun, because she'll be paired with Furina. I have a guaranteed character and promo weapon (got standard one last time), so if I'd decide to pull for budget melusine, the first weapon pull would be a win-win, as my Furina lacks her weapon. 

True, but it's good there's some competition now for this reason. I do like WuWa combat more too, and I like how all normal attacks are elemental too (vs elemental kits and laughable physical attacks in Genshin - I never understood this awful design and it sucks on coop the most). Unfortunately yeah, lack of elemental reactions and pretty much any synergies between characters is rather bland. Even buffing characters like Verina are hardly worth pulling on field, because it requires too much time to trigger relevant outros, and from my experience in the WuWa abyss, trying to use these buffs actually performs worse, than just spamming with a single DPS character. Trying to use all three characters was the worst, using DPS and Verina was better, but I still couldn't make it in time, I tried just DPS all the way, I did it.

Also because there are no elemental reactions, there's no point in off-field DPS characters. Instant, single instance of big aoe damage seems to be better than being required to do certain things to proc coordinated attacks for little damage (thus, for example, I don't get the point of Mortefi, preferred Chixia all the way).

My luck in WuWa is nothing spectacular so far, but is better than in Genshin I guess. Beginner banners didn't go well at all, hit hard pity and got the lion boy I'm not a fan of (kinda clunky gameplay imo) at 50. In the limited char banner, I lost first 50/50 and got Verina at second pull, so that's nice, then had Jiyan at 56 and Yinlin at 49. 70 pulls on Jiyan weapon tho...

I kinda like how you can farm artifacts in open world, which encourages randomly killing mobs, compared to Genshin, where there's no point in fighting anyone outside domains. But man, elemental damage bonus main stat not matching the element of the set bonus is so wonky. Would be alright if it was 4-piece + off-piece, but here you need all 5 from the set. There's really no point in this, so that's even worse than a def stat lol.

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On 2024-06-15 at 5:38 PM, Rikifive said:

Arle has her problems, that's true. Her gameplay looks fun, and I think her infusion is a bit easier to manage as far as open world goes, but yeah, the dropping DPS might be harder to manage in more demanding content. To be fair, I doubt I'd take her to the abyss, I already have two teams I'm satisfied with. I just wanted her for the fun, so indeed not a big loss I guess. 

Man, I hope I'll get that lucky when I start pulling. I've been saving since Arle, and now I really hope for Sigewinne to be good/fun, because she'll be paired with Furina. I have a guaranteed character and promo weapon (got standard one last time), so if I'd decide to pull for budget melusine, the first weapon pull would be a win-win, as my Furina lacks her weapon. 

True, but it's good there's some competition now for this reason. I do like WuWa combat more too, and I like how all normal attacks are elemental too (vs elemental kits and laughable physical attacks in Genshin - I never understood this awful design and it sucks on coop the most). Unfortunately yeah, lack of elemental reactions and pretty much any synergies between characters is rather bland. Even buffing characters like Verina are hardly worth pulling on field, because it requires too much time to trigger relevant outros, and from my experience in the WuWa abyss, trying to use these buffs actually performs worse, than just spamming with a single DPS character. Trying to use all three characters was the worst, using DPS and Verina was better, but I still couldn't make it in time, I tried just DPS all the way, I did it.

Also because there are no elemental reactions, there's no point in off-field DPS characters. Instant, single instance of big aoe damage seems to be better than being required to do certain things to proc coordinated attacks for little damage (thus, for example, I don't get the point of Mortefi, preferred Chixia all the way).

My luck in WuWa is nothing spectacular so far, but is better than in Genshin I guess. Beginner banners didn't go well at all, hit hard pity and got the lion boy I'm not a fan of (kinda clunky gameplay imo) at 50. In the limited char banner, I lost first 50/50 and got Verina at second pull, so that's nice, then had Jiyan at 56 and Yinlin at 49. 70 pulls on Jiyan weapon tho...

I kinda like how you can farm artifacts in open world, which encourages randomly killing mobs, compared to Genshin, where there's no point in fighting anyone outside domains. But man, elemental damage bonus main stat not matching the element of the set bonus is so wonky. Would be alright if it was 4-piece + off-piece, but here you need all 5 from the set. There's really no point in this, so that's even worse than a def stat lol.

I do have a feeling Arle will get a major buff since Natlan will be all about death and rebirth, so life bond supports are inevitable. She did perform admirably in Abyss, but it's hard to judge since this Abyss was a pyro shit show with waves of meat shields.

 

I'm gonna try my luck at C1 Furina, but I don't expect much. There are certain characters that tend to hop on board at surprisingly low pulls, but archons are a bit shy.

 

Got Yinlin. Quite a femme fatale this one. I'm still a long way off from end game content tho. The way I understand, you need to do a lot more animation canceling in WuWa. Supports are thus much harder to use than in Genshin cause they each have their own attack loops for minimal field presence.

 

Yeah, "artifacts" in WuWa are something special. Hard to grind, and they eat up leveling resources. Not good.

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On 2024-06-21 at 3:54 PM, Goat-kun said:

I do have a feeling Arle will get a major buff since Natlan will be all about death and rebirth, so life bond supports are inevitable. She did perform admirably in Abyss, but it's hard to judge since this Abyss was a pyro shit show with waves of meat shields.

 

 

 

I'm gonna try my luck at C1 Furina, but I don't expect much. There are certain characters that tend to hop on board at surprisingly low pulls, but archons are a bit shy.

 

 

 

Got Yinlin. Quite a femme fatale this one. I'm still a long way off from end game content tho. The way I understand, you need to do a lot more animation canceling in WuWa. Supports are thus much harder to use than in Genshin cause they each have their own attack loops for minimal field presence.

 

 

 

Yeah, "artifacts" in WuWa are something special. Hard to grind, and they eat up leveling resources. Not good.

 

That bond of life thing is starting to get kinda wonky heh.

In my case all characters are shy, maybe expect qiqi, and dehya...

I got lucky in wuwa and got yinlin's weapon in 6th pull. Feels so nice. Maybe my account there isn't cursed like it is in Genshin huh.

The rotations there are indeed more complex, and can't say I'm a fan of it. Even support characters require a lot of on-field time and attack enemies to generate concerto& forte energies, because usually their kits require to do more than just skill/burst and swap. In Genshin people complain, that for example, Miko requires a lot of time to setup turrets, in wuwa everyone need 5 business days to do their thing, all for just small benefits. Just solo spamming with dps character seems to be more optional in most scenarios.

Indeed the echos eat a lot of resources. Even the current event with double drops can't keep up with it. To be fair though, leveling artifacts in Genshin is expensive too, but because getting good ones is rare, one doesn't need to level them up as often, so they pile up in meantime lol.

Sigewinne is out and oh man, she sucks unfortunately. ;-; Slow, clunky to play, lots of downtime, and at the same time she requires plenty of on-field time to use her kit despite being a support/healer. The buff ain't too good, many other characters including 4* are better. I didn't expect much, but hoyo surely does their best to disappoint. First they made a budget melusine, because apparently they can't afford to make a real melusine model for a playable character, now they also ruined her kit. I don't know if I want to pull for Furina's weapon, what would I do with that very specific bow if I got it...

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On 2024-06-25 at 4:31 PM, Rikifive said:

Sigewinne is out and oh man, she sucks unfortunately. ;-; Slow, clunky to play, lots of downtime, and at the same time she requires plenty of on-field time to use her kit despite being a support/healer. The buff ain't too good, many other characters including 4* are better. I didn't expect much, but hoyo surely does their best to disappoint. First they made a budget melusine, because apparently they can't afford to make a real melusine model for a playable character, now they also ruined her kit. I don't know if I want to pull for Furina's weapon, what would I do with that very specific bow if I got it...

I pulled C1 Sigewinne because she's clunky and sucks. I'm just going to build her as a burst DPS with the akuoumaru bow and 4pc emblem. Probably going to chuck someone with a short skill CD to generate energy or maybe I'll switch the bow to the Sacrificial one. Or I could try for her bow since I have C1 which will make it more useful but I really don't think it's worth it. I guess you could wait for Furina's next rerun because getting Sigewinne's bow would be pretty useless for every other character; maybe it could be decent on Yelan but Yelan can't heal so...

I think Sigewinne could be an on-field healer DPS but that wouldn't really make much sense considering her damage, skill CD, and I think she can take quite a while to recharge her burst.

It sucks that she isn't really a melusine model-wise. Honestly, I think Hoyoverse is just making excuses. First Kaeya's skintone is sometimes off in official art and then Itto's arms... Sumeru characters such as Cyno, Dehya, and Candance aren't really that dark. And now they can't make a melusine model for a playable character. I'm sure it'll take some time and money, but I think they should be able to do it.

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On 2024-06-28 at 1:02 AM, hanguangjun said:

I pulled C1 Sigewinne because she's clunky and sucks. I'm just going to build her as a burst DPS with the akuoumaru bow and 4pc emblem. Probably going to chuck someone with a short skill CD to generate energy or maybe I'll switch the bow to the Sacrificial one. Or I could try for her bow since I have C1 which will make it more useful but I really don't think it's worth it. I guess you could wait for Furina's next rerun because getting Sigewinne's bow would be pretty useless for every other character; maybe it could be decent on Yelan but Yelan can't heal so...

A second Neuvillette budget edition wouldn't be bad, I was fine with how things looked like in the previews, but the numbers after the release... Her burst definitely hits too weak as for a pure DPS burst I think. There is some potential, but all locked behind constellations. And skill? It deals no damage, yet they bothered implementing hold version to raise the hilarious damage by funny %. That either means they aren't playing their own game, or that they purposely wanted to add salt to her kit. It's not just weak, it literally makes no sense. Anyway, I'm curious how your build will turn out, so I'd like to see it in action.

I guess I just had too high expectations - I've been really looking forward to her, but the long cooldowns and everything, I have flashbacks of leveling Dehya's friendship lol.

Waiting for another banner would be optimal I guess, but I don't know, it's just my luck the weapon banners always feature a weapon I don't want heh. I have Yelan's sig, so I literally wouldn't have any use for Sigewinne's bow. I really hoped Sigewinne will be at least fun to play, so that weapon banner would be a win-win.

On 2024-06-28 at 1:02 AM, hanguangjun said:

I think Sigewinne could be an on-field healer DPS but that wouldn't really make much sense considering her damage, skill CD, and I think she can take quite a while to recharge her burst.

She can with some constellations :mlp_icwudt: That said, I'm still curious how far you can push her without these fancy C's.

On 2024-06-28 at 1:02 AM, hanguangjun said:

It sucks that she isn't really a melusine model-wise. Honestly, I think Hoyoverse is just making excuses. First Kaeya's skintone is sometimes off in official art and then Itto's arms... Sumeru characters such as Cyno, Dehya, and Candance aren't really that dark. And now they can't make a melusine model for a playable character. I'm sure it'll take some time and money, but I think they should be able to do it.

It sure does and it bothers me so much. They obviously have all the funds and everything, but they just don't care and that's the reason we can't have anything nice.

If she was a legit melusine, I'd pull even despite the clunky kit of hers, but a budget melusine with a budget kit makes me really consider saving for someone else... Don't get me wrong though, I love her character, but it's just... such a missed opportunity.

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1 hour ago, Rikifive said:

If she was a legit melusine, I'd pull even despite the clunky kit of hers, but a budget melusine with a budget kit makes me really consider saving for someone else... Don't get me wrong though, I love her character, but it's just... such a missed opportunity.

I've started her story quest before getting sidetracked by world quests and I feel like the beginning was just an excuse for her human-like model...

As for without the cons, I'm curious too. I'm wondering if there'll be some support in the future that'll boost her damage but I really have no hope. I guess Sigewinne's potential being locked behind her kit could be to motivate players to wish more (whaling...) But I can't think of anyone who would whale for her besides youtubers and whales who whale for every character. I guess there could be some who really like Sigewinne's character but I don't know. Sometimes I feel like Hoyoverse wants the money of players without having to give the players stuff they want.

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On 2024-06-29 at 4:13 AM, hanguangjun said:

I've started her story quest before getting sidetracked by world quests and I feel like the beginning was just an excuse for her human-like model...

As for without the cons, I'm curious too. I'm wondering if there'll be some support in the future that'll boost her damage but I really have no hope. I guess Sigewinne's potential being locked behind her kit could be to motivate players to wish more (whaling...) But I can't think of anyone who would whale for her besides youtubers and whales who whale for every character. I guess there could be some who really like Sigewinne's character but I don't know. Sometimes I feel like Hoyoverse wants the money of players without having to give the players stuff they want.

These story quests are piling up in my quest log heh, going back to first quest with Cyno...

Yeah, I kinda doubt they'll release something to make her damage worthwhile, but we'll see. People do mention she's a whale bait... I think too much went into her C's. Usually there's like 20-30% dmg gain in C's buffing damage (except c6 that often give heavy buffs), Sigewinne has decent ones along the way, one over-doubling burst dmg, then C6 further giving crazy stats. I think they should had nerfed some C's or make them offer some other utilities, and make her dmg better by default to balance it and make her okay at c0. I guess it's just a character that requires these C's and we have to deal with it. Personally I'd rather invest into other characters if I had to pull for C6.

Hoyo only wants money and they don't care about players at all, it always was like this. We wait years for simplest QoL changes after all - they instead push for quantity over quality. 

 

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Anyway, I decided to pull on this banner, and I guess the results are disappointing as I expected. 

At 67th pull I got Furina's weapon, so I got what I wanted. It was a guaranteed promo weapon, so it was 50/50. I knew well the game will not give me the weapon I want, so I used reverse psychology on them - I charted course for the bow, making them "think" I want the bow - and sure enough, I "lost" and got Furina's weapon instead. Using bad luck to my advantage lol.

Then at 78th pull I got my guaranteed Furina.

Now I'm already at 64 pity... Of course I couldn't get anything earlier, and I'm sure I'll lose 50/50. I'm getting kinda tired of this game honestly. Months of repetitive as hell daily quests with unskippable dialogues just for this. I don't feel motivated to do any quests/exploration eh.

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