ooc Equestria Divided (Grimdark)

[GreyScholar 1,584]

If Gray will again force this fudging want it need it spell i just gonna rage. Hard.. I had enough mentions of it in my short lifespan as is. IFf i suppose to believe it, she caan use this spell like a sub machine gun on everyone, ten times a day without limits. I was so sick of you ringing it up all the time in the Dark Equestria, argh. 

 

Gray, stop idolizing Twilight. I'm sure there is magic which is not up to her degre. There is always someone better, smarter and tougher when you just around the corner.

 

I mean, jeez - i really like RBD, but i don't idolize her in the way - she can do this, and that and she is the only one who can do this an she can do everything, yadayada she is so super duper. How am i supposed to hear criticizm on limitations after hearing all that?

 

Did I say the spell would be easy or she would be able to use the spell like a "sub machine gun on everyone, ten times a day without limits"? No I did not and in D&D terms it would be similar to a Geas spell just more focused on desire (in this case the desire to please the caster no matter the cost). Also we can even add that Twilight can only have one pony under the 'Greater' Want it Need it spell at a time, thus no mass casting on everypony in the room.

 

I am not idolizng her, it is just fact that she is the best (in the show having the potential to be the best if not the best) user of magic in Equestria. Since Celestia and Luna are gone, also there being no Discord... no there really isn't anypony better at magic.

Edited March 13, 2013 by EquestrianScholar

[Spell Shock 56]

Last time we talked about it, it allowed no save and was permanent. But very well, if you say so - we will see.

 

She is on your avatar, you always said it is absolutely impossible to even scratch her in the other RP, you always focus on her good sides and almost never touch any bad things about her, her weaknesses and etc. She is literally Evil Mary Sue, while it is true in show - it is really kind of silly. 

With the amount of powers she has, i can come up with a hundred ways she can win the war by tomorrow morning. And it keeps adding and adding. 

[GreyScholar 1,584]

She is on your avatar, you always said it is absolutely impossible to even scratch her in the other RP, you always focus on her good sides and almost never touch any bad things about her, her weaknesses and etc. She is literally Evil Mary Sue, while it is true in show - it is really kind of silly. 

With the amount of powers she has, i can come up with a hundred ways she can win the war by tomorrow morning. And it keeps adding and adding.

So what if she is on my avatar? I have not said such, though in roleplays like this it would be stupid for player's character to take on any of the Mane Six (not just Twilight). Good sides? In both Equestria Divided and Dark Equestria Twilight is a villain is a very dark pony. Her biggest weakness? Twilight Sparkle will fail in what she wishes to accomplish since she has turned against the Magic of Friendship, she is wrong since she has gone against what her mentor would want. She is dangerous and like all the Mane Six in Equestria Divided a bit insane.

 

There is no way she can win this war, nor will she until she gets back on track (a.k.a. Get back with her friend), also she was never a Mary Sue, not in the show and not in this roleplay.

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-Spoiler- If the Elements of Harmony are not brought back together everyone loses.

[Spell Shock 56]

Spies. Precision teleport. Powerful magic. Night. Sleep. That's all you need to win any war. You don't go against armies. You go against generals. It would be weird if "Want it Need it" would work on anyone but her friends, since they define their elements too at the moment. So, why not just teleport right into one's personal quarters, brainwash them and just abuse the hell out of it? I don't think there are guards sleeping in mare's quarters, to be honest.

 

And by goods sides i mean - she is all powerful, neigh unstoppable most powerful unicorn yadayada, play as Earth ponies, since everyone else is mediocre at their races. In fact it was one of advice's you gave, when i accused you of doing it last time. Play other race.

 

And well, alicorn twilight, totally not a Mary Sue ;3... but that's just season finale criticizm.

[Archi the Atmomancer 564]

Though in roleplays like this it would be stupid for player's character to take on any of the Mane Six (not just Twilight).

 

Well, I'm screwed then considering one of my main possible plotlines for Fixit involves killing/beating Applejack

 

-Spoiler- If the Elements of Harmony are not brought back together everyone loses.

 

Oh God no, that means no one House can win! And if no Houses can win then what's the point in them existing?

 

Is this first bit just "filler" before we get to the Six Gifted? Because while I'm all for some level of inter-House alliance and interaction I find it very limiting and actually rather boring that the entire point of the RP is to get some conflicting factions to reconcile despite the point of the setting being, oh I don't know, WAR?

 

Please note, all of the above are assuming by "Elements of Harmony" you mean the actual ponies, not the physical artifacts.

Edited March 13, 2013 by Archi

[GreyScholar 1,584]

Without her friends, Twilight Sparkle is destined to fail. Magic cannot save her nor is magic the answer to her problems. Twilight has limits, she does not know every spell and she is still learning magic. Heck if she was as powerful as you seem to think she is Twilight could make the Alicorn spell with ease and turn herself into one without problems.

 

"Spies. Precision teleport. Powerful magic. Night. Sleep" Laughs you honestly think that would work in this setting, do you honestly thinks any of the leaders of the Houses would allow that to happen? They are not stupid, they would have countermeasures in order. That and magic doesn't work that way, not even Twilight could just teleport into one of the Houses and take out her old friends like that. Heck anypony with a strong enough will could resist the Want it Need it spell, though even then it would be at least possible for twilight to get it to work because of her skill at magic.

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Twilight Sparkle is not unstoppable, she only seems that way to the players since she is stronger then their characters. Any one of twilight's old friends could defeat her or even kill her if they wanted to, could get close to her. That and players trying to kill/go head to head with the most powerful characters in a roleplay is stupid, anyone can tell you that.

 

Well, I'm screwed then considering one of my main possible plotlines for Fixit involves killing/beating Applejack

Oh God no, that means no one House can win! And if no Houses can win then what's the point in them existing? 

Is this first bit just "filler" before we get to the Six Gifted? Because while I'm all for some level of inter-House alliance and interaction I find it very limiting and actually rather boring that the entire point of the RP is to get some conflicting factions to reconcile despite the point of the setting being, oh I don't know, WAR?

Please note, all of the above are assuming by "Elements of Harmony" you mean the actual ponies, not the physical artifacts.

In this point of the roleplay, yah Fixit don't have a chance...

Well I believe I already gave the two most likely endings, I hope you read them. All that matters is that even if one of the Houses or the Cult would 'win', it would be a blood bath and Equestria would fall to chaos.

 

Well my hope was that my moderators would have been able to setup a few missions for all of the players, give them a goal to achieve and objectives to accomplish. I still have a few things I would like done before the Six Gifted are introduced fully, though you may have one here and there make an appearance.

 

Harmony cannot be restored in Equestria, the conflict will not stop, until the players help bring harmony into the lives and hearts of the Mane Six and then go and find out what actually happened to the royal sisters.

Edited March 13, 2013 by EquestrianScholar

[MagicalStarRain 599]

@,

 

Pretty much no OC in this roleplay realizes that. Eternity may realize it somewhat, but at this point it would be suicide to even try. Even if everypony were to realize that getting the Elements to reconcile is the only solution, the only opposition left would be the Elements themselves. 

 

I can promise you 100% that it will be a huge fight just to get the leaders to even consider getting along with each other again.

[Archi the Atmomancer 564]

Fair enough then. I'll just go with the flow and see what happens, I think I came into the RP with different expectations but it's all good, I'll adapt

 

Also, I think I've asked this a couple of times now, is the space for the Composer still open or are we still not accepting applications? Either way works for me.

[Spell Shock 56]

Gray, you just pretty much confirmed my earlier sentence. “So, it will work on anyone, except mane six. Because. Just because.” Oh well. Nevermind, let’s drop that issue until it rises.

I just, do not like the concept of Boogieman, which all mane six are. They are pretty much just means to end to say – you will do as we say in this game, no going left or right. Straight up the railroad or the boogieman will come and kill you. It’s annoying and silly, since it really doesn’t leave any of us any choices what to do in the grand scheme of things, but I just saying straight away  - I’m not saying I’m not going to play. Even though I hate railroading and the idea of six gifted, I despise it and what’s I think going to come of it, but I still will finish this.

Edited March 13, 2013 by Spell Shock

[GreyScholar 1,584]

Fair enough then. I'll just go with the flow and see what happens, I think I came into the RP with different expectations but it's all good, I'll adapt

 

Also, I think I've asked this a couple of times now, is the space for the Composer still open or are we still not accepting applications? Either way works for me.

You can make a bio for the Composer, lets see what you can do. One thing to remember is that the Composer and the Musician are not only sister and brother but twins as well, also both were originality from Neighpan. Lastly the Composer is 'relatively' more powerful then the other Six Gifted, though this is helped with the fact that her brother is unlikely to turn against her and as such together they could hold their own against the others.

 

Gray, you just pretty much confirmed my earlier sentence. “So, it will work on anyone, except mane six. Because. Just because.” Oh well. Nevermind, let’s drop that issue until it rises.

I just, do not like the concept of Boogieman, which all mane six are. They are pretty much just means to end to say – you will do as we say in this game, no going left or right. Straight up the railroad or the boogieman will come and kill you. It’s annoying and silly, since it really doesn’t leave any of us any choices what to do in the grand scheme of things, but I just saying straight away  - I’m not saying I’m not going to play. Even though I hate railroading and the idea of six gifted, I despise it and what’s I think going to come of it, but I still will finish this.

No your limiting yourself, Equestria is a large place and any number of things could happen. Why do you have to focus on taking out the leaders of the Houses, whether by yourself or with others, instead focus on something else. For example, why not focus on having Spell work with others to find a cure for her 'condition' and the creature inside of her? That alone could be a great story arc. Edited March 13, 2013 by EquestrianScholar

[Spell Shock 56]

Because she can’t do it. It’s a part of her, a part of her blood and her magic. She can try to control them, but that would be kind of overpowered. She can search, but the search will be in vein. And I do not want to do anything to the leaders, I’m just speaking theoretically. Besides, as I said about limitations – I had little choice but to run away from the house. Which is exactly I am talking about. I mean, it’s either – go against my characters very origin of well, run. Great set of choices. 

[GreyScholar 1,584]

Actually this goes for everyone, both players and moderators, you do not have to focus on just the overarching plot of the conflict between the Houses and the Cult or the end goal of bring the Mane Six back together but instead have your characters go on adventures of their own which may or may not add to the overall story.

 

I mean, it’s either – go against my characters very origin of well, run. Great set of choices.

I gave you a third option.

 

Myself I adopt my characters all the time, especially Mythos Gray who in the Mane Setting is simply a normal unicorn with a normal lifespan... no special powers at all and no being an antaganist that will lose. Heck the most impressive thing he can do in the Mane Setting is bring stories 'to life' with his magic, creating the scenes as he tells them.

Edited March 13, 2013 by EquestrianScholar

[Spell Shock 56]

There was no third option in that particular situation. Because all the cast showed up, Trixie, Twilight, Spike? And the way it played out, there was definitely not a third option.
And I had ideas setup mostly a little bit for a house, which I thought will last more when a day of in game time. So, now Spell just as me at the loss what to do. Because really, there is nothing alongside just “Go with everyone else. Pray for something to do which will not be useless at all”. I mean, all ideas I had, which would keep me occupy are pretty much boned. I hate just traveling and being a damsel in distress, exactly two roles which are left for me, I guess for next 80-90 percent of the game time. Yay?

[Archi the Atmomancer 564]

You can make a bio for the Composer, lets see what you can do. One thing to remember is that the Composer and the Musician are not only sister and brother but twins as well, also both were originality from Neighpan. Lastly the Composer is 'relatively' more powerful then the other Six Gifted, though this is helped with the fact that her brother is unlikely to turn against her and as such together they could hold their own against the others.

Righto, I'l get started on a solid copy draft tonight as I don't have computer access til tomorrow afternoon. Hope my wriitng skills are up to scratch...

 

For the purposes of the bio, do the Composer and Musician have any secrets between them, or do they share everything? I had an idea of giving her a physical "deformity" if you will that nobody knows about since she's remained covered up since she got her cutie mark.

[AnonBrony 1,468]

Oh geez i havn't read what you guys have said but I'm guessing it won't be pleasant. Jesus Christ 17 posts in about an hour. Never a good sign.

[GreyScholar 1,584]

There was no third option in that particular situation.

No before all that, involving Lightening so wouldn't cause problems with Spell being in House Moon and Star. Well maybe you can play a purpose when your character is introduced to Mythos Gray, she can help the Guardians. Or maybe one of the neutral factions, as the creator did say there were a number. There is also actually House Whitegolf, no one there would care about Lightening so there would be no problems there. On back stabbing, such is unlikely since in the eyes of most ponies Spell is just a little filly.

 

Righto, I'l get started on a solid copy draft tonight as I don't have computer access til tomorrow afternoon. Hope my wriitng skills are up to scratch...

 

For the purposes of the bio, do the Composer and Musician have any secrets between them, or do they share everything? I had an idea of giving her a physical "deformity" if you will that nobody knows about since she's remained covered up since she got her cutie mark.

Sure, there can be secrets between them. It's not like they are psychic twins that know each others thoughts, they are just close.

 

Oh geez i havn't read what you guys have said but I'm guessing it won't be pleasant. Jesus Christ 17 posts in about an hour. Never a good sign.

Actually I do believe this wasn't as bad this time, no real 'fights' like in the past though there is disagreements.

[Spell Shock 56]

The thing is, i went to a house not for the lulz of it, but because i wanted first to Stormwing and when to Moon and Star. I never wanted to go to Whitegold, i really don't think Whitegold is good idea, neither is any other faction. And well, guardians of the harmony, a bunch of OC's who are better when me, also not a lot of "whee"

[GreyScholar 1,584]

The thing is, i went to a house not for the lulz of it, but because i wanted first to Stormwing and when to Moon and Star. I never wanted to go to Whitegold, i really don't think Whitegold is good idea, neither is any other faction. And well, guardians of the harmony, a bunch of OC's who are better when me, also not a lot of "whee"

Well no... also characters from the show are Guardians, two big ones being Octavia and Cherrilee, also who says they would all be more powerful then you? Lastly, remember Spell Shock is a filly of young age. Edited March 13, 2013 by EquestrianScholar

[Spell Shock 56]

Do you really want me to kill them both in a really gruesome, disgusting way so i can just roll up some adult characters?

And you just did, with the last sentence.

[GreyScholar 1,584]

Do you really want me to kill them both in a really gruesome, disgusting way so i can just roll up some adult characters?

And you just did, with the last sentence.

I apologize, there are just times that I feel you don't think age matters. On a new character... well that is up to you. Based on what you have seen do you feel Spell Shock and Lightening fit this roleplay? Edited March 13, 2013 by EquestrianScholar

[Spell Shock 56]

They do, it's just what there is certain incredibly annoying statement one individual brings to limit me in everything, even when it doesn't matters at all. It so annoying, what i really do regretting enrolling them in the first place, instead of generic earth pony, which can't tell what's a brick and what's a knife.

[AnonBrony 1,468]

Ok ok ok ok ok. Can you all stop speaking for a sec so i can get a word in please, since Spell is essentially complaining about me cause of her lack of freedom. I will like to voice my opinion to end this futile arguement before somethin' regretful happens plz. (Geez go away for an hour and stuff always happens -_-)

[GreyScholar 1,584]

I'm sorry if it is annoy but it is also true, in just about any setting children are not take seriously... and realistically a child would not often be able to match an adult when it comes to adventuring or fantasy in roleplay. D&D I believe actually has a minimum age, though if I am wrong correct me.

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Go ahead AnonBrony.

[Archi the Atmomancer 564]

Sorry to interrupt chaps, but Scholar, about how long are you wanting this bio? She claims to be approximately 600 years old so I might handwave a large portion of that as wandering Equestria with significant events filled in.

 

Also, not sure what race to make her; Earth pony or Unicorn? I thought Earth pony would be good to subvert expectations but Unicorns are classier.

[GreyScholar 1,584]

Sorry to interrupt chaps, but Scholar, about how long are you wanting this bio? She claims to be approximately 600 years old so I might handwave a large portion of that as wandering Equestria with significant events filled in.

 

Also, not sure what race to make her; Earth pony or Unicorn? I thought Earth pony would be good to subvert expectations but Unicorns are classier.

That is fine, as long as there is still a good amount of detail. I actually had to cut Mythos' backstory.

 

Well the Artist will already show you don't have to be an unicorn to be scary or powerful, but she can be either. Heck, it might be better anyway to make her an earth pony, since 'some' complain about unicorns and them being the leaders all the time.