Do i have Aspergers

[SasQ 1,376]

People divide on two categories: those which are already diagnosed and those which aren't yet ;-J

Symptoms? I can read any symptoms list on Wikipedia and I will match 80% of them. So am I mentally ill? I mean, C'mon! Do you know that being shy has been recently put on the FDA's WHO's official lists of mental illnesses? Those psycho(paths)logists will do anything to convince you you're mentally ill, because then they can label you a list of shortcuts and prescribe some drugs ($$$), or pretend they cure you throughout several years, only deepening your illness (that is, if you didn't have it to start with, you will have several afterwards).

I know several people which has been diagnosed Aspergers -- normal people with normal behaviors, as long as being irritated by the howling sound of a vacuum cleaner or having fear of needles is in the norm, but I remember the times where they were perfectly normal. I mean, for me, if one couldn't hear anything irritating in this totally inharmonious noise of a vacuum cleaner, should be called abnormal. I prefer listening to harmonious sounds, such as music, tweeting birds, rustling mountain brook etc. And needles: who likes to be pinched by them by those sado-freaks called doctors who cannot tell you what's wrong in the simplest case but they urge to "help" you?

So to conclude, my advice for you is this:

If you don't know you have Asperger's syndrome, then don't worry about it as long as you don't have any trouble with it and it doesn't cause any problems for you. Just enjoy the way you are, whatever it is. Don't listen to these psychologic freaks. They need therapy themselves.

Edited February 11, 2014 by SasQ

[Judgement 445]

I have boarderline asperbergers. There was a quiz online where scoring a 32 or above meant you had aspbergers, and I scored a 30. All the other kids at my school got 3s and 6s as their score. Lol. I sure did get made fun of. I think all aspbergers is is just being anti-social and lacking communication skills. I'm not going to get a flipping diagnosis for something that doesn't matter. The kid in my health class who DOES have aspbergers lacks the state of mind to tell him when or when not to say things. He says the most silly things at all the wrong times.

[SasQ 1,376]

Yeah, but this is not some "brain damage" or "mental illness". Let me quote some song to illustrate it:

 

"I was in the darkness, so darkness I became."

 

People (and other living organisms in Nature) have this marvelous ability to adjust to their environment, which helps them in their survival. Now imagine what happens when you put someone in an environment where he lacks contact with real people, cannot learn their behaviors from observation, cannot learn social skills, cannot learn what's appropriate or inappropriate, how to communicate with other people etc. (which is not far from the lives of many of us in the age of Internet, Facebook etc.). What will you get? An Asperger's syndrome, which is not a mental illness or brain damage, but simply a reflection of the environment one lives in, and Nature's best efforts to fit him to that environment!

 

It may become an illness only when you suddenly put such a person in a very different environment he's not accustomed to, because then he doesn't fit there, which turns back at him (which again is nothing but a feedback loop from the Universe supposed to help him retune to the new environment and save the survival, so by saying "Yeah, I'm an Aspie, I can't help it" is again disturbing this process and it only makes it worse).

 

Social skills can be learned from observation. Communication skills can be improved. Body language recognition and emotional state reading is also something people learn (usually in the early stages of their childhood, unless they don't have to learn from).

 

Notice what types of people are usually diagnosed as Aspergers: computer geeks, nerds, bookworms, high-IQ people, chess players, science lovers etc. That's because they're more interested in books than making friends (to quote from your favorite TV show ), so they lack social skills which they didn't have time or willingness to learn. Have you ever seen any Pinkie Pie-type people with Asperger's syndrome diagnosed? I doubt it. So there's the pattern.

 

My sister was once diagnosed something called cross-lateral something, because she was slower in reading and she had some troubles with learning. Some dumb psychiatrist told her that this is a mental illness caused by something with her brain, and that this cannot be cured. They couldn't help her, and the diagnosis wasn't helping her either, but the opposite: she could now excuse herself that she's diagnosed with this something so she don't need to learn quick and read fast as others.

 

But I told her: "Don't listen to those shrinks! You're healthful, your brain is all OK, you just didn't have enough experience with reading to teach your brain how to do it." Then I gave her my "Lord of the Rings" books since I knew she loves fantasy stories, and she started to read it. And she read, and read, she have read more good books after that, and now she's reading fine, equally well as her peers. The psychiatrists couldn't explain how her "mental illness" disappeared and where (oh, those dumb quacks, how much I hate them, they're sooo clueless...). A miracle! ;-J

Edited February 11, 2014 by SasQ

[Scootalove 10,689]

Trying to test your symptoms if they match up with the symptoms of Aspergers, could help.

[SasQ 1,376]

@@Scootalove, really? Haven't you heard about the power of (auto)suggestion? Or about hypochondria? If not, I advice to watch "House M.D."'s episode where they flew a plane over South Pole and suddenly some Korean guy started vomiting. Other passengers, when seeing it, started vomiting too, and they caught some eruption, started feeling very bad etc. House tried to diagnose what's the illness they all get, and whether it's contagious. But after some time and investigation he noticed that they all just have been suggestive when they saw the symptoms of this Korean guy, who was the only one sick. To test his hypothesis, he has spoken through the on-board intercom that they are all ill, and described some imaginary symptoms, and after that they all started having those symptoms And there was a dialogue something in these lines:

Woman: But look, doctor, my hand is shaking! This is a symptom you've just described! What does it mean?

House: It means that you're sick... on a sickness I've just made up.

 

 

So reading about the symptoms will only make you feel those symptoms and you'll find them all in your body/mind, the more suggestive you are. That's all I can say about it. From my own experience. Which is even easier with mental illnesses, since they're not physical, so they cannot be proven or verified.

Edited February 11, 2014 by SasQ

[~XCOLIDE~ 40]

well i just got a 29 on that test  that regulus just posted so i dont know but i have OCD so that might mess up that test a little

[RED20 289]

How are any of us supposed to know? If you really think you have it, go see a shrink. 

 

And you definitely do not want to have it.

[SasQ 1,376]

And you definitely do not want to have it.

You'd be surprised One girl almost killed me when I was telling her she's not ill at all and she doesn't have any Aspergers That's what happens when people rehearse to themselves "I am mentally ill", "I am an Aspie" etc. (Or when some shrinks tell them they are.) The word "I am" is very powerful (if not the most powerful of all we say), because when you are something, this becomes a part of... well... what you are, and you became the thing you are with the whole of you. ("I am what I am" -- do you recognize these words and who said that? ) But then you don't want to loose any part of yourself, don't you? People will atavistically defend anything what they are, no matter how bad it is for them. That's why always I try to to enlighten them that Asperger's syndrome (or shyness, or fatness, whatever rings their bell) is not what they are, but what they do, in some certain situations, so they can simply stop doing it anytime they're ready. Unfortunately, shrinks usually do the exact opposite, confirming the patient that he is whatever his illness is.

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[RED20 289]

You'd be surprised One girl almost killed me when I was telling her she's not ill at all and she doesn't have any Aspergers That's what happens when people rehearse to themselves "I am mentally ill", "I am an Aspie" etc. (Or when some shrinks tell them they are.) The word "I am" is very powerful (if not the most powerful of all we say), because when you are something, this becomes a part of... well... what you are, and you became the thing you are with the whole of you. ("I am what I am" -- do you recognize these words and who said that? ) But then you don't want to loose any part of yourself, don't you? People will atavistically defend anything what they are, no matter how bad it is for them. That's why always I try to to enlighten them that Asperger's syndrome (or shyness, or fatness, whatever rings their bell) is not what they are, but what they do, in some certain situations, so they can simply stop doing it anytime they're ready. Unfortunately, shrinks usually do the exact opposite, confirming the patient that he is whatever his illness is.

 

It's just dumb when people want some illness, and if they actually had experience with it they wouldn't. 

 

My brother has asperger's, and it isn't pretty. A decade ago he went nuts. My parents though about institutionalizing him. He breaks down when he's in open spaces or if there's too much noise (also for a while he was afraid of the color blue). He literally cannot deal with it. He's got physical ticks too, like he used to scratch his head constantly. He takes friggen anphedimines to take away some of his symptoms (the kind prescribed by a doctor).

 

Just because you're terrible at socializing, dosn't mean your sick. My brother is sick, it's not good for him. 

 

Also: God said that. Do I win any points?

Edited February 11, 2014 by RED20

[Shanks 10,816]

"I am mentally ill", "I am an Aspie" etc. (Or when some shrinks tell them they are.)

Yes, that is a very dangerous mentality that some people unfortunately have. I have lived with Autism all my life and while it is a part of who I am it is only a part albeit a large part of who I am but only a part. One of my personal heroes Temple Grandin who grew up in the 50's with Autism when almost nobody knew anything about it said something on the subject when an artist with Autism asked her how much he should emphasize that as an artist. She said that he shouldn't deny that part of him but also shouldn't make his entire identity or work as an artist about that and only that. It is because I didn't let it define me that I was able to advance from a frightened child who couldn't talk, threw tantrums all day and had severe sensory issues to an adult who granted still has some challenges and is still figuring things out but one who most people can't tell was ever "different".

 

 

 

 

Just because you're terrible at socializing, dosn't mean your sick. My brother is sick, it's not good for him. 

No it indeed dosen't but there are some people who have trouble with that because of that yet haven't been properly diagnosed yet it dosen't mean every socially awkward person has Autism/Aspergers but it does mean that it is a complicated issue where it is not always obviously apparent. Someone could have still have problems related to Autism/Aspergers without having ones quite as severe as your brother or maybe have things a bit more serious in other areas. As someone who has lived it though while there can be some advantages depending on which form you have even in the best of circumstances it can be extremely difficult, it is not all doom and gloom except for maybe the really severe cases but it is not all sunshine and lolipops either. I think some people want to have it because they want to feel special which is understandable but it is never healthy or wise for anyone to try to be someone they are not.

[RED20 289]

Yes, that is a very dangerous mentality that some people unfortunately have. I have lived with Autism all my life and while it is a part of who I am it is only a part albeit a large part of who I am but only a part. One of my personal heroes Temple Grandin who grew up in the 50's with Autism when almost nobody knew anything about it said something on the subject when an artist with Autism asked her how much he should emphasize that as an artist. She said that he shouldn't deny that part of him but also shouldn't make his entire identity or work as an artist about that and only that. It is because I didn't let it define me that I was able to advance from a frightened child who couldn't talk, threw tantrums all day and had severe sensory issues to an adult who granted still has some challenges and is still figuring things out but one who most people can't tell was ever "different".

 

Also, with my brother, you can usually separate things he does from his personality, and his disorder. He would have been a certain way even without the autism either way.