Hive King 2,001 May 16, 2014 Author Share May 16, 2014 @@OceanSapphire, Simple, what Sunset had corrupted required a shot of its own to purify, Discord's corruption was ended just by blasting him. Besides, Sunset Shimmer isn't a fool, she is confident in taking Equestria down, despite knowledge of pretty much everything there "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanSapphire 227 May 16, 2014 Share May 16, 2014 @@OceanSapphire, Simple, what Sunset had corrupted required a shot of its own to purify, Discord's corruption was ended just by blasting him. Besides, Sunset Shimmer isn't a fool, she is confident in taking Equestria down, despite knowledge of pretty much everything there His corruption was undone dy the large dome of friendship enveloping the town. Plus just blasting him didn't get rid of the vines that were growing undergroud for 1000+ years. It took the Tree of Harmony to put them away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 May 16, 2014 Author Share May 16, 2014 His corruption was undone dy the large dome of friendship enveloping the town. Plus just blasting him didn't get rid of the vines that were growing undergroud for 1000+ years. It took the Tree of Harmony to put them away. We saw that Celestia can't use the Elements properly, her inability to redeem NMM is proof of that Regardless, the fact that Sunset was confident in her ability to kill Discord is proof to me of her superiority "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanSapphire 227 May 16, 2014 Share May 16, 2014 We saw that Celestia can't use the Elements properly, her inability to redeem NMM is proof of that Regardless, the fact that Sunset was confident in her ability to kill Discord is proof to me of her superiority I'm talking about when the Mane 6 blasted him and Sunset was an arrogant idiot who had no idea what she was up against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 May 16, 2014 Author Share May 16, 2014 (edited) I'm talking about when the Mane 6 blasted him and Sunset was an arrogant idiot who had no idea what she was up against. Sunset, an arrogant idiot? She knew about the Elements of Harmony, knew what would happen if brought into the human world, was able to effectively able to break into the Crystal Empire, and was able to tele-combo Twilight She obviously prepped well before hand and she wants to succeed, it'd be dumb of her to not account for Discord. And she is not dumb as seen by her extensive planning Edited May 16, 2014 by Evil Dragon Master "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanSapphire 227 May 16, 2014 Share May 16, 2014 Sunset, an arrogant idiot? She knew about the Elements of Harmony, knew what would happen if brought into the human world, was able to effectively able to break into the Crystal Empire, and was able to tele-combo Twilight She obviously prepped well before hand and she wants to succeed, it'd be dumb of her to not account for Discord. And she is not dumb as seen by her extensive planning Putting aside the fact that how she came upon this knowledge about the Elements is an unexplained plothole at this point, it was never stated she had any knowledge on Discord or even something like the crystal heart. Effectively broke into the Crystal Empire? She simply walked through a mirror, snuck down the hall, swapped the crown, and just stood there long enough for Twilight to spot her. She's not fucking Solid Snake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 May 16, 2014 Author Share May 16, 2014 Putting aside the fact that how she came upon this knowledge about the Elements is an unexplained plothole at this point, it was never stated she had any knowledge on Discord or even something like the crystal heart. Effectively broke into the Crystal Empire? She simply walked through a mirror, snuck down the hall, swapped the crown, and just stood there long enough for Twilight to spot her. She's not fucking Solid Snake. Don't use plot hole in an argument, plot doesn't exist in debates. Maybe Sunset has some sort of way to spy on the pony world, who knows Whatever, you can make your own topic to debate this "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanSapphire 227 May 16, 2014 Share May 16, 2014 Don't use plot hole in an argument, plot doesn't exist in debates. Maybe Sunset has some sort of way to spy on the pony world, who knows Whatever, you can make your own topic to debate this Regardless your just assuming she prepped for all this shit without evidence. You also have to take into accout that Discord was stoned the last time she was in Equestria so she wouldn't have known that he was now a threat. Why bother making another topic if your the only one arguing in favor of Sunset? Seems like your just eager to get rid of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 May 16, 2014 Author Share May 16, 2014 Regardless your just assuming she prepped for all this shit without evidence. You also have to take into accout that Discord was stoned the last time she was in Equestria so she wouldn't have known that he was now a threat. Last time she was in Equestria the Elements also weren't there, Twilight wouldn't be known to her, she'd show a bit more shock over Twilight's alicorness, the Crystal Empire wasn't there Why bother making another topic if your the only one arguing in favor of Sunset? Seems like your just eager to get rid of me. You are right, I am "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 May 22, 2014 Author Share May 22, 2014 (edited) Bumping this thread to add in Book!Rarity's power level, Hypothetical Powers for Twilight if she took on some of the power increasers, Base Trixie, and multipliers for power buffs Edited May 22, 2014 by Evil Dragon Master "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darker 1,352 August 24, 2014 Share August 24, 2014 (edited) Interesting. But if these are DBZ-like power levels, Tirek and Twilight on their fight wouldn't have even 100 units. Since with that power level Roshi had enough power to destroy an entire mountain. And those folks didn't have that much power. Edited August 24, 2014 by Darker Overlord of Darkness Signature made by: Astral Blitzen http://mlpforums.com/user/24786-astral-blitzen/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 August 24, 2014 Author Share August 24, 2014 @@Darker, But the destruction of the land as well as speed is more comparable to the 100s "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darker 1,352 August 24, 2014 Share August 24, 2014 @@Darker, But the destruction of the land as well as speed is more comparable to the 100s Ah, okay, that makes sense. Everything else seems perfectly balanced. Overlord of Darkness Signature made by: Astral Blitzen http://mlpforums.com/user/24786-astral-blitzen/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 August 24, 2014 Author Share August 24, 2014 Ah, okay, that makes sense. Everything else seems perfectly balanced. Yeah, a handy little chart I use is this 1.05x gap or lower: Even fight, rivals, no difference, e.g. Majin Vegeta to SSJ2 Goku 1.1x gap: Slight edge held by one side, will become more apparent as a battle drags on, e.g. Suppressed Cell vs Goku 1.15x gap: Noticable edge, weaker one can still hold their own, e.g. Monster Zarbon vs Vegeta Round 2(Vegeta had to resort to cheating) 1.2x gap: Stomping time, the stronger side will crush the weaker with all their might, e.g. Monster Zarbon vs Vegeta 1.3x gap: You can now toy with your enemy, e.g. Recoome vs Vegeta 1.5x gap: Tanking point, the weaker's best shot won't even make you flinch, e.g. Semi-Perfect Cell vs 16 3x gap: People pop like balloons at this point, e.g. Cell Jrs vs Gohan 1 "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darker 1,352 August 24, 2014 Share August 24, 2014 Yeah, a handy little chart I use is this 1.05x gap or lower: Even fight, rivals, no difference, e.g. Majin Vegeta to SSJ2 Goku 1.1x gap: Slight edge held by one side, will become more apparent as a battle drags on, e.g. Suppressed Cell vs Goku 1.15x gap: Noticable edge, weaker one can still hold their own, e.g. Monster Zarbon vs Vegeta Round 2(Vegeta had to resort to cheating) 1.2x gap: Stomping time, the stronger side will crush the weaker with all their might, e.g. Monster Zarbon vs Vegeta 1.3x gap: You can now toy with your enemy, e.g. Recoome vs Vegeta 1.5x gap: Tanking point, the weaker's best shot won't even make you flinch, e.g. Semi-Perfect Cell vs 16 3x gap: People pop like balloons at this point, e.g. Cell Jrs vs Gohan Very interesting indeed. Overlord of Darkness Signature made by: Astral Blitzen http://mlpforums.com/user/24786-astral-blitzen/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flamestreak1990 1,204 August 24, 2014 Share August 24, 2014 its has to be over nine thousand ddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd! OCS: flamestreak and blue-diamond I had a bible verse here before? Geez, things have changed so much. Uhh, Trans Rights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 August 24, 2014 Author Share August 24, 2014 @, No, that's nearing city busting casually tier. MLP can't even bust a city, let alone casually "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinkamena-Pills 6,840 August 24, 2014 Share August 24, 2014 Trying to gauge power level of MLP characters using DBZ logic? Seems legit. Note, this uses DBZ logic Well,atleast you admitted it. As far as the chart i guess everything seems fair enough but im no power level expert,however i would personally change Pinkies power level to 1691411951695,but that's just me,anyways good chart as far as DBZ power level logic applied to MLP characters go. Oatmeal, are you crazy?! "Silly, you are already under my control."- Pinkie Pie Signature made by me, because resistance truly is futile, silly. Currently still undergoing maintenance. Yes, i can do that, im a program, silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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