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The Qing conquest theory is a theory proposed by Chinese academics that attempts to explain the Great Divergence, the process by which the Occident overtook China as the major economic and industrial world power. Specifically, it seeks to explain how Europe could experience an industrial revolution, while China did not. Theory supporters claim that, although the prosperous Song and Ming Dynasties moved China toward a modern age, the restrictions placed on commerce and industry and the persecution of non-orthodox thought following the Manchu conquest of China caused the country to stagnate and fall behind the west. Carl Dahlman and Jean-Eric Aubert of the World Bank argue, based on Angus Maddison's data, that China was the world's largest and most advanced economy for the most of the past two millennia, and among the wealthiest and most advanced economies until the eighteenth century.Sinologist Joseph Needham has claimed that China's Gross Domestic Product (GDP) per capita exceeded Europe by a substantial margin from the fifth century BCE onwards, while economic historian Angus Maddison believes this did not happen until the fall of the Roman Empire. During the Song Dynasty (960–1279), the country experienced a revolution in agriculture, water transport, finance, urbanization, science and technology, which drastically increased GDP per capita even further.China experienced an economic revolution during the Song Dynasty in which the economy became proto-industrialized and experienced large increases in industrial and agricultural output. At the same time, overseas and domestic trade increased, along with the use of currency. Some scholars have termed this phenomenon China's "medieval urban revolution". Although China suffered large population loss and a devastated economy during the Mongol conquest, the succeeding Ming Dynasty brought economic growth, with per capita incomes and economic output surpassing its highest point during the Song Dynasty. Late Ming laissez-faire policies such as non-intervention in markets and low taxes further stimulated commerce and trade. During the Ming, the Chinese economy became very commercialized as market agriculture replaced subsistence farming. Wage labor became increasingly common as large-scale private industry developed, displacing and often buying out government workshops.Historian Robert Allen estimates that family incomes and labor productivity of the Ming-era Yangtze delta region, the richest province of China, was far higher than contemporary Europe and exceeded the later Qing Dynasty. In addition to being a period of wealth and economic growth, the late Ming dynasty also brought intellectual fervor and liberalization. New thinkers such as Wang Yangming and Li Zhi challenged orthodox Confucianism, arguing that the words of Confucius and Mencius were fallible and that wisdom was universal; they also questioned government power over the economy and personal rights.[5] Scholars of the Donglin school protested increases in government taxation during the Wanli Emperor and restrictions on freedom of speech, advocating a program similar to Classical liberalism.Ming scholars also adopted western science, including that of Archimedes.Additional scientific advancement also flourished during the late Ming.Supporters of the Qing conquest theory contend that the economic and social developments during the late Ming paralleled the development of Europe in the 18th and 19th centuries and would have allowed China to enter a modern age, but was halted by the Manchu conquest and subsequent Qing Dynasty. Supporters of the Qing conquest theory believe that the policies of the Qing Dynasty slowed China's advancement, allowing Western nations to surpass China's prosperity during the medieval and early modern eras. Specific Qing policies cited include literary persecution, interventions in foreign trade and domestic policies, and restoration of serfdom, as well as the devastation of the initial conquest itself. Restrictions on foreign trade Supporters most often point to Qing restriction on foreign trade as evidence of the theory.During the Ming dynasty, considerable commerce existed between China, Japan, and Western Europe, estimated by Joseph Needham at nearly 300 million taels of silver from 1578 to 1644 (for comparison, total Ming state revenues were from 20 to 30 million taels). However, during the Qing dynasty foreign trade was prohibited completely from 1644 to 1683, and later restricted to only one port at Guangzhou; in addition, commerce could only be conducted by 13 guilds approved by the government, and competition prohibited.The government also refused to provide protection to overseas Chinese. The Qing emperor did not disapprove of the massacres carried out by Spanish and Dutch colonial authorities against the Chinese in the Spanish Philippines. Restoration of serfdom The restoration of serfdom is cited as another policy that greatly hampered the Chinese economy. After the conquest of China was completed, Manchu forces expropriated huge amounts of land, turning millions of people from tenant farmers into hereditary serfs.The amount of land requisitioned amounted to nearly 16 million mou, or nearly 10,666 square kilometers, of farmland.Serfdom was so common in the early Qing that slave markets were set up to buy and sell those who had been enslaved during the conquest. Literary persecution While literary persecution existed in China prior to Qing rule, it was rare and never widespread. During the late Ming, protests by scholars forced the government to declare that "speech will not be criminalized". However, the Qing government frequently used literary persecution to destroy Chinese opposition to Manchu rule. Several cases of literary persecution saw hundreds of intellectuals and their families executed, often for minuscule offenses such as referring to Manchus as "barbarians" and using the Qing character in areas deemed offensive by the government. Thousands of ancient texts deemed subversive were burned in the persecutions.Protests by scholars, which had been common during the late Ming period, were also suppressed.The persecutions extended to non-orthodox thought as well; scholars who disagreed with the standard neo-Confucian theories were executed, along with a scientist who argued that the brain, rather than the heart, was the center of thought. Domestic intervention The Qing dynasty intervened in the economy far more than its predecessors.Unlike the Ming, who had adopted laissez-faire policies, the Qing often intervened in the economy through restricting the number of merchants allowed to operate, official edicts that discouraged the cultivation of commercial crops in favor of subsistence agriculture, and a prohibition on most new mines.Supporters of the Qing conquest theory claim these policies greatly damaged the Chinese economy.[5][9] Devastation of the initial conquest The initial conquest of China by the Manchus was one of the most devastating wars ever fought in Chinese history, and the destruction set back Chinese progress decades. Examples of the devastation include the Yangzhou massacre; in which some 800,000 people, including women and children, were massacred by the Manchus. Whole provinces, such as Sichuan and Jiangnan, were thoroughly devastated and depopulated by the Manchu conquest, which killed an estimated 25 million people. Some scholars estimate that the Chinese economy did not the regain the level reached in the late Ming until 1750, nearly a century after the foundation of the Qing dynasty. According to economic historian Robert Allen, family incomes in the Yangtze delta, China's richest province, was actually below Ming levels in 1820 (but equal to that of contemporary Britain). The destructive effects of the Manchu invasion were felt economically for decades. In the 1690s, Tang Chen, a retired Chinese scholar and failed merchant wrote: "More than fifty years have passed since the founding of the Ch’ing dynasty, and the empire grows poorer each day. Farmers are destitute, artisans are destitute, merchants are destitute, and officials too are destitute. Grain is cheap, yet it is hard to eat one’s fill. Cloth is cheap, yet it is hard to cover one’s skin. Boatloads of goods travel from one marketplace to another, but the cargoes must be sold at a loss. Officials upon leaving their posts discover they have no wherewithal to support their households. Indeed the four occupations are all impoverished!" What are your thoughts on this?

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs339/en/Here are the Statistics on Tobacco and how much it kills

According to statistics it does. In 2014 war killed about a 160k people around the world(Mainly from Syria Iraq and Afghanistan), while Tobacco Killed 6 millions people each year, Before you say "At least Smokers of Tobacco Choose to smoke" Remember that Tobacco kills 600K people By Second hand Smoking each year. Not only that but its been estimated that Tobacco killed 100 Million People in the 20th century which is more than WW1+2(Only 86 Millions Deaths) and Communism(94 Million deaths, Mostly due to Stalin killing everyone who he saw as a threat and Mao being an idiot during the great leap forward And Cultural Revolution) What are your thoughts on this?

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