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Thank you for writing this.

This reinforces for me why "love and tolerate" doesn't work. I kinda talked about it somewhere, don't remember where exactly tho.

On paper it sounds great, except in practice when something unsavory or sketchy was done, it was used to basically lessen how bad it actually was. It's such a cheap way out. It feels the same as "You wouldn't hit a guy with glasses would you?"

Ironically, you'd expect people saying this to also love and tolerate back, but most of the time it was not like that. It's very one-sided. "Love and tolerate me, my interests and my actions but I won't do the same for you" is what I got out of it every time I read or hear some something that has that phrase (especially the older the discussion is).

Also you can only love and tolerate for so much before you can't love and tolerate anymore. This happens to everyone at some point.

It's not a good feeling when you try to be nice and inclusive towards someone who might have a rocky history and despite promising otherwise, they just keep DOING it whether out of habit or "it's funny" and that causes you to snap at them, cut ties or whatever else.

What's not surprising is there's an example of this in G4. It's the episode where Fluttershy was tasked with reforming Discord, but he was being such an ass to everyone that she blew a fuse by the end of it. In other words, she was "loving and tolerating" him until she couldn't anymore.

It wasn't the only thing being taught in that episode (and they made up so quickly, I wish it took another scene in between to get to that point so it felt more natural) but these things get taught by the show, explicitly or not.

Mind you that I don't think the show is 100% gospel on how one should live their life. A lot of the life lessons are intentionally oversimplified for the younger audience while keeping some nuance.

It's also not the only show to do this. It's just a relevant example that comes to mind.

Late happy valentines from me 

@Samurai Equine Thank you and you're welcome!

@Samurai Equine Thank you, definitely trying to act on it as fast as I can but honestly the job market here is a little weird  I may end up doing something on my own!

@ZiggWheelsManning Thank you, I hope so too!

@Astralshy @Snow Thank you 

Quick update:

I've uploaded it to a YT channel!

12 hours ago, Snow said:

Neato! awesome work! 

Thanks so much!

5 hours ago, ZiggWheelsManning said:

@A mysterious air dancer

The first track is strongly reminiscent of a song I listened to back in 2016  

Ooh I wonder what it is? 

24 minutes ago, Snow said:

 the OG announcement eh? that is pretty neat, I could have done something a lot more in-depth but I was just mucking about on the forum itself, didn't even think/bother to use wayback.

Cheers for brining that up though. 

Yep, I also swear I came across an image on here that shows what it actually looked like, because it had more going for it. It just broke a bit (like a lot of snapshots around the same time period on the Wayback Machine). It might've been posted in the throne room early on for something.

@Snow put the URL into the Wayback Machine and go to the earliest archive for a surprise 

I don't know what's happening but I'm scared  

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the whole blasted room bursts into chuckles and look at me to bring out a proper answer...

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Oh i see @Ice Princess Silky , your secret hidden talent is hiding behind a spy message 

Don't worey, I will figure this out with my new spy skills that I learned 

(umm @Silly Druid pssssst I need help with decoding a secret message )

Can you bring a moon cheese rock sample when you get back? Last time there was none but I still want to believe  thank you

*eating a plate with whipped cream that I found somewhere*

I like pizza too 

Don't forget the Wii!

I'd say what you've been hearing is correct vs. what's been copy and pasted online. Out of curiosity I threw it through an AI that can split vocals from the instrumental, and it's a bit easier to hear the lyrics that way. Makes more sense in context too. Aren't these sites kinda wiki-style, where anyone can edit them?

*looks at @Hugs SilkALot and @Sleeping Silk's pics*

Ok, new conspiracy! Sir is actually just a random cloud that Silky is obsessed with 

34 minutes ago, ZiggWheelsManning said:

This all about music and not electrical outlets?  

@ZiggWheelsManning All about music, yes 

Glad you enjoyed them as much as I did, thanks for checking them out! 

also i forgot to mention this but he's like the only artist i can think of who switches genres and nobody gets upset, other than the occasional old man raver who wants the photek and dillinja days to return with "real dnb"

that's really hard to do for any artist! typically you'd have to move under a different name and you wouldn't get much backlash but wow!

I'm so sorry to hear you've been going through a rollercoaster of emotions that you weren't even in line for!

I second-third-fourth-fifth-sixth-othernumbers everyone else and hop on that hug train as well  I, like many others even if they didn't express it here, wish you all the best for coming to terms with everything that's been going on for you!

I think what you did here was not only courageous (because you've said you've basically been actively encouraged to not express your POV your entire life, so going against that is HUGE), but also (and more importantly now that I realize it) I think it's actually allowed you to better process your feelings and emotions about your recent struggles. Y'know, letting off some steam somewhere and stuffs. I know journaling is a good way to give yourself time to log what's going on (or just finished happening) while processing how those events made you feel and then reflecting on it, public or private. And, also from what I'm aware of, other stuff like sitting outside, hiking, meditation, anything that allows you to be a little more relaxed and connected to the thoughts in your mind also gives that effect to. Perhaps that's what is meant by (paraphrasing) "Give yourself some alone time to think".

I also want to send hugs to the other person as well, even if they will never see this! I don't think their experience in what happened between you two should be ignored here as they seem like a good friend that you do care for, but unfortunately an in-the-moment action made things go sour. Though I'm sure there's so much more to this, going off of what's given here nobody's to blame. (And, if they really do not care at all as you have speculated, then.... cough cough)

Truthfully, I wanted to comment much sooner but I needed to re-read this a few times. To refine my observations as a bystander here and connect it to my own personal experiences that are similar, and relating it to your situation and feelings as you've shown here to understand where you're coming from as much as I can. Or, at least that was the goal 

I do that because me walnut brain!!!!!!

But more actually, I said "Hey I've been through something like that! I know exactly how that feels!" the whole way through. It's tough being the "go-to nice person" everyone feels they need a definitive siding from even when they're BOTH right/wrong!! They just want to be more right than the other, and that can get tiring very quickly. And someone will always feel hurt and betrayed. I wish everyone can get into an agreement with minimal issue, if none at all.

And, absolutely on the whole thing with caring for (and respecting) friends and their thoughts, opinions, whatever else. Everyone has a reason for what they believe in (some more deeper and personal than other reasons) and they just want their point to be heard and understood without it sparking any unnecessary drama or debates. Again, tough time explaining what I mean. Me no goody at this but I get 100% what you mean! ...you get what I mean? 

Also, don't forget that Rarity also found the hidden beauty inside "boring rocks" too  although she whined about it and then KABOOM (splitting rock noises) and then she saw it, silly rarity

I was eating ice cream one-handed while typing this out so it took a little longer to get this down than I originally wanted. well actually now i've been re-re-re-re-writing this for like a few hours now and cut some stuff out because i couldn't get it across the way i wanted it to, whoooooops 

Can we play ring toss with your new horn? It can be like a carnival and we can win prizes! 

Yay pokey head stick!

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