Can Princess Celestia do the sonic rainboom?

[Nulln 755]

I think the rainbow of the sonic rainboom is from the color of the ponies (rainbow dash).  So Celestia's would be a pastel rainbow.  

[Fractured 2,684]

Even the Wonderbolts weren't able to do a Sonic Rainboom.

They are close to equal in speed to Rainbow Dash, however. Celestia is by no means slow.

[Inkscape 113]

I would like to see a Sonic CelestialBoom in Season 5. Yes please.

[Zoraxe 546]

Luna traveled from the moon to the earth in seconds...and she's Celestia's equal. Rainbow Dash is, of course, faster still.

 

That's Expanded Universe, and I count the comics as separate canons. In anycase maybe Luna is a lot faster than Celestia? Maybe since she was princess of the moon she can magically travel there very fast?

 

Celestia was, at one point, a Wonderbolt, or at least kept up with them, she has her own flight pattern.

 

I really don't think Celestia was a Wonderbolt, she may have had a favorite flight pattern that she liked watching the Wonderbolts do though.

 

They are close to equal in speed to Rainbow Dash, however. Celestia is by no means slow.

 

We have seen Celestia fly, about 3 times I think? None of them seemed fast to me.

[Spirk Burkham 93]

REMEMBER: When twilight did that epic sonic-rainboom-type-thingie, she had the power of four alicorn princesses. that's four times as much magic as Celestia has. There is no way that Celestia could do her own form of that trick without taking the other Princess's magic.

 

edit: whoops, sorry. been a while since I watched season four.

Edited August 19, 2014 by Thoughtful Presence

[Nuke87654 1,849]

REMEMBER: When twilight did that epic sonic-rainboom-type-thingie, she had the power of four alicorn princesses. that's four times as much magic as Celestia has. There is no way that Celestia could do her own form of that trick without taking the other Princess's magic.

She was able to do that without needing the princesses's magic in 'Princess Twilight Sparkle' though.

That's Expanded Universe, and I count the comics as separate canons. In anycase maybe Luna is a lot faster than Celestia? Maybe since she was princess of the moon she can magically travel there very fast?

 

 

 

I really don't think Celestia was a Wonderbolt, she may have had a favorite flight pattern that she liked watching the Wonderbolts do though.

 

 

 

We have seen Celestia fly, about 3 times I think? None of them seemed fast to me.

1. The comics are canon to the series unless Hasbro or DHX says otherwise. I'm sure Shimmer5000 can find a quote from Andy Price to prove it. There is nothing to indicate Luna is faster than Celestia nor does her connection to the moon mean her travel between moon and equestria is faster.

 

2. That's what I had imagine too.

 

3. She didn't need to go fast at any of those points though.

[DubWolf 17,225]

Although Celestia can possess the power of flight and use magic, I think the focus of her abilities lies in her magic, while flight is more of a convenience for her. If Rainbow Dash grew a horn, she would probably be stronger in her flying abilities, but be able to do things most unicorns could do, like levitate objects.

 

So no, I don't believe Celestia could pull off a Sonic Rainboom unless she worked for it.

[Darker 1,351]

Yes, probably. I really think she's faster than RD.

[Zoraxe 546]

1. The comics are canon to the series unless Hasbro or DHX says otherwise. I'm sure Shimmer5000 can find a quote from Andy Price to prove it.

 

If we accept that particular comic as canon than we also have to accept Luna having been possessed instead of actually being Nightmare Moon herself, screw that I'm not ruining Luna's back story!

 

There is nothing to indicate Luna is faster than Celestia nor does her connection to the moon mean her travel between moon and equestria is faster.

 

Nor is there any evidence that Celestia can go as fast as Luna either.

 

3. She didn't need to go fast at any of those points though.

 

Thus there is no evidence that Celestia can fly fast.

 

Yes, probably. I really think she's faster than RD.

 

Uhg, that would be so annoying.

Edited August 24, 2014 by Zoraxe

[Nuke87654 1,849]

If we accept that particular comic as canon than we also have to accept Luna having been possed instead of actually being Niaghtmare Moon herself, screw that I'm not ruining Luna's back story!

 

 

Nor is there any evidence that Celestia can as fast as Luna either.

 

 

Thus there is no evidence that Celestia can fly fast.

 

 

Uhg, that would be so annoying.

 

1. Sorry but since the show never contradicted that directly, we have to assume that Nightmare Moon possessed Luna rather than Luna being driven to jealousy. Also, I despise it as much because it's little more than an excuse for Luna's actions by making her a weaker character where instead of committing atrocities by her own accord, she gets possessed by a daemon and thus all of her actions are excused because of it.

 

2. There's plenty of evidence to show Celestia is considered the more powerful sister, heck there' s evidence in the comics to show that she purposefully holds back her true strength because she wishes to allow those she cares for to succeed even at her own expense.

 

3. Neither is it proof that she couldn't either.

 

4. Why not, the Alicorns have already shown to be significantly more powerful than your average pony and Luna has a better speed feat than RD by traveling from the moon to Equestria in seconds.

[Zoraxe 546]

1. Sorry but since the show never contradicted that directly, we have to assume that Nightmare Moon possessed Luna rather than Luna being driven to jealousy. Also, I despise it as much because it's little more than an excuse for Luna's actions by making her a weaker character where instead of committing atrocities by her own accord, she gets possessed by a daemon and thus all of her actions are excused because of it.

 

Its Expanded Universe, you don't have to accept it as canon. Its optional, as is the very nature of expanded universes.

 

2. There's plenty of evidence to show Celestia is considered the more powerful sister, heck there' s evidence in the comics to show that she purposefully holds back her true strength because she wishes to allow those she cares for to succeed even at her own expense.

 

And yet she gets owned by Chrysalis, vines, and almost gets defeated by catapults. She obviously isn't so all-powerful. And her abilities at Unicorn magic don't really tell us anything about her ability to fly.

 

3. Neither is it proof that she couldn't either.

 

So I think I am pretty solid in my assumption that Celestia isn't so fast of a flyer, let alone good enough to pull off a Sonic Rainboom.

 

4. Why not, the Alicorns have already shown to be significantly more powerful than your average pony and Luna has a better speed feat than RD by traveling from the moon to Equestria in seconds.

 

A- That's the comics, not the show.

 

B- Luna's abilities =/= Celestia's abilities.

 

C- I don't want Celestia being so powerful and good at everything to the point of being Mary Sue. She is already kinda there but being super good at flying would push her to Mary Sue levels proportional to freaking Alice from the Resident Evil movies.

Edited August 24, 2014 by Zoraxe

[Nuke87654 1,849]

Its Expanded Universe, you don't have to accept it as canon. Its optional, as is the very nature of expanded universes.

 

 

And yet she gets owned by Chrysalis, vines, and almost gets defeated by catapults. She obviously isn't so all powerful. And her abilities at Unicorn magic don't really tell us anything about her ability to fly.

 

 

So I think I am pretty solid in my assumption that Celestia isn't so fast of a flyer, let alone good enough to pull off a Sonic Rainboom.

 

 

A- That's the comics, not the show.

 

B- Luna's abilities =/= Celestia's abilities.

 

C- I don't want Celestia being so powerful and good at everything to the point of being Mary Sue.

 

1. Unless DHX or Hasbro says otherwise, it's canon and should be used by anyone who wishes to use such info.

 

2. Look to my point of her not going all out and Chrysalis was getting supercharged by Shining Armor's love for Candence. Before and during the fight, Chrysalis was scared shit of Celestia and even credited her victory through siphoning her love for Shining Armor. The vines were machinations of Discord, one of the few characters who is definitely stronger than her, and they caught her off guard.

 

3. You still have no evidence to support Celestia is a slow flyer, while I can power scale it off from her sister who has shown speed feats and Rainbow Dash as the 'Crystal Heart book', which DHX has stated numerous times is canon, that Alicorns have the traits of all ponies so a stat increase across the board for say Twilight when she became an Alicorn, let alone the much longer lived Celestia.

 

4. A. Comics are canon and can be used so long as DHX doesn't contradict it.

 

    B. Celestia has been viewed as more powerful than her sister, and is further supported in the comics when evil Celestia nearly killed her own evil sister without going into her super mode while Luna needed to be in NMM mode and a Celestia refusing to fight her just to be able to fight her effectively.

 

    C. She isn't a Mary Sue considering that she doesn't do much in the show and whenever she does she usually gets her ass kicked due to Worf effect, relegated to a supporting role to the mane 6 or had her sister tagging along in her fights, and has shown to be not absolute as there are a couple of characters stronger than her in Tirek when fed, Discord, and even Twilight has the potential to exceed her. In fact, the show needs to show her being stronger because she's been suffering the Worf effect for too long.

Edited August 24, 2014 by Nuke87654

[Phosphorous 136]

Celestia can probably use her magic to give herself a speed boost. However a rainboom only counts if a Pegasus does it, because otherwise it's cheating.

Edited August 24, 2014 by Phosphorous

[ponytheorist 181]

She probably can........because MAGIC!

[Fractured 2,684]

A calculation for Luna's speed here:
http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=19981
And a calculation for Rainbow Dash's speed here:
http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=21693
RD's slightly faster in raw speed.

[Zoraxe 546]

1. Unless DHX or Hasbro says otherwise, it's canon and should be used by anyone who wishes to use such info.

 

If you want to than that's fine. But to me Luna turned into Nightmare Moon on her own and wasn't possessed by the real being that was Nightmare Moon.

 

2. Look to my point of her not going all out and Chrysalis was getting supercharged by Shining Armor's love for Candence. Before and during the fight, Chrysalis was scared shit of Celestia and even credited her victory through siphoning her love for Shining Armor. The vines were machinations of Discord, one of the few characters who is definitely stronger than her, and they caught her off guard.

 

Chrysalis gained her power from sucking the love out of a pony, that her natural ability, its not an anomaly. So if sucking the love out of a pony causes her to be more powerful than Celestia than I'm gonna put Chrysalis as a whole is more powerful than Celestia.

 

3. You still have no evidence to support Celestia is a slow flyer, while I can power scale it off from her sister who has shown speed feats and Rainbow Dash as the 'Crystal Heart book', which DHX has stated numerous times is canon, that Alicorns have the traits of all ponies so a stat increase across the board for say Twilight when she became an Alicorn, let alone the much longer lived Celestia.

 

I don't have to prove that Celestia is a slow flyer. She simply hasn't demonstrated enough Pegasus skill for me to determine that she is good, let alone good enough to pull off a Sonic Rainboom.

 

B. Celestia has been viewed as more powerful than her sister, and is further supported in the comics when evil Celestia nearly killed her own evil sister without going into her super mode while Luna needed to be in NMM mode and a Celestia refusing to fight her just to be able to fight her effectively.

 

You are assuming being more powerful in one area equals being more powerful in another.

 

C. She isn't a Mary Sue considering that she doesn't do much in the show and whenever she does she usually gets her ass kicked due to Worf effect, relegated to a supporting role to the mane 6 or had her sister tagging along in her fights, and has shown to be not absolute as there are a couple of characters stronger than her in Tirek when fed, Discord, and even Twilight has the potential to exceed her. In fact, the show needs to show her being stronger because she's been suffering the Worf effect for too long.

 

 

I think that a logical conclusion to take is that while Celestia is powerful, she is still just a pony and isn't all-powerful or good at everything. And that makes a more interesting character than an almost-perfect walking Worf effect.

 

A calculation for Luna's speed here:

http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=19981

And a calculation for Rainbow Dash's speed here:

http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=21693

RD's slightly faster in raw speed.

 

Its looks like Luna is warping using magic, not flying.

Edited August 24, 2014 by Zoraxe

[Nuke87654 1,849]

If you want to than that's fine. But to me Luna turned into Nightmare Moon on her own and wasn't possessed by the real being that was Nightmare Moon.

 

 

Chrysalis gained her power from sucking the love out of a pony, that her natural ability, its not an anomaly. So if sucking the love out of a pony causes her to be more powerful than Celestia than I'm gonna put Chrysalis as a whole is more powerful than Celestia.

 

 

I don't have to prove that Celestia is a slow flyer. She simply hasn't demonstrated enough Pegasus skill for me to determine that she is good, let alone good enough to pull off a Sonic Rainboom.

 

 

You are assuming being more powerful in one area equals being more powerful in another.

 

 

I think that a logical conclusion to take is that while Celestia is powerful, she is still just a pony and isn't all-powerful or good at everything. And that makes a more interesting character than an almost-perfect walking Worf effect.

 

 

Its looks like Luna is warping using magic, not flying.

 

1. It's my prerogative and others that wish.

 

2. Except she needs third party aid in order for that ability to work. Take away Shining Armor's love for Cadence or have Celestia enter into her powered form and we have Celestia defeating Chrysalis easily.

 

3. Her sister and her protege have done similar speed feats to Rainbow Dash's Sonic Rainboom so if those two Alicorns can do something like that why can't she? Until you have definite proof that Celestia isn't as fast as Luna or such, I can prove my point by simply power scaling it off from her sibling and others to prove her speed.

 

4. No I'm assuming that Celestia is more powerful than her younger sister overall.

 

5. I didn't want Celestia to be all powerful, you're mistaking me, I just want her to show some moments of awesomeness without involving help or at least not get her plot kicked by a new villain to show of how dangerous said villain is.

 

6. It's similar to what Rainbow Dash and Twilight have used to increase their speed and is nothing similar to how teleport usually appears as there was a streak of light heading towards Equestria instead of your usual disappear in a flash that teleportation does in FIM.

[MilesTheLunar 67]

Maybe, but probably not "rainbow", something more celestia.

What about "Aurora Boomealis."

 

On topic: I dunno. I was kinda operating off the assumption that the Rainbow part of the Sonic Rainboom was a sort or Rainbow Dash exclusive feature. Still we do see Twilight do something similar in the S4 finale, so it's not too unbelievable that perhaps each pony would produce a different pattern if they tried to do a Sonic Rainboom, based off their mane.

[Nuke87654 1,849]

A calculation for Luna's speed here:

http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=19981

And a calculation for Rainbow Dash's speed here:

http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=21693

RD's slightly faster in raw speed.

 

So RD is a near mach 2000 speedster? Put it into context, she makes every Bleach character look incredibly slow compared to what she is probably capable of doing I bet.

[Zoraxe 546]

2. Except she needs third party aid in order for that ability to work. Take away Shining Armor's love for Cadence or have Celestia enter into her powered form and we have Celestia defeating Chrysalis easily.

 

I wouldn't say easily, it only took the love of one pony to tip the balance, it would seem they are about even with Celestia having the edge.

 

3. Her sister and her protege have done similar speed feats to Rainbow Dash's Sonic Rainboom so if those two Alicorns can do something like that why can't she? Until you have definite proof that Celestia isn't as fast as Luna or such, I can prove my point by simply power scaling it off from her sibling and others to prove her speed.

 

We know Twilight can't go fast enough to pull off a sonic rainboom, she was just adding some color to Dash's rainboom... I think.

 

4. No I'm assuming that Celestia is more powerful than her younger sister overall.

 

Its probably more nuanced, with Celestia overall being more powerful but the two knowing different things and having different abilities. We have never seen Celestia dream walk, that's probably something Luna can do but Celestia can't.

 

5. I didn't want Celestia to be all powerful, you're mistaking me, I just want her to show some moments of awesomeness without involving help or at least not get her plot kicked by a new villain to show of how dangerous said villain is.

 

Lets hope for that in season 5! Because I'm getting sick of how Celestia has been used so far.

 

6. It's similar to what Rainbow Dash and Twilight have used to increase their speed and is nothing similar to how teleport usually appears as there was a streak of light heading towards Equestria instead of your usual disappear in a flash that teleportation does in FIM.

 

Its not the same teleport spell that Twilight uses but it does seem to be a magic based warping ability, notice her horn glowing.

Edited August 24, 2014 by Zoraxe

[Fractured 2,684]

So RD is a near mach 2000 speedster? Put it into context, she makes every Bleach character look incredibly slow compared to what she is probably capable of doing I bet.

Bleach just recently hit the 200 mach milestone...

It's around Naruto high tiers, just comparing it to Bleach, One Piece, and Naruto itself.

[Nuke87654 1,849]

Bleach just recently hit the 200 mach milestone...

It's around Naruto high tiers, just comparing it to Bleach, One Piece, and Naruto itself.

 

So Bleach is finally in triple digit mach speed.

 

As for the series, nice to know FIM's speed can hang with Naruto high tiers, which last I've checked Naruto is now the most powerful of the HST thanks to the manaka getting tired of OBD trashing Naruto in every mu

I wouldn't say easily, it only took the love of one pony to tip the balance, it would seem they are about even with Celestia having the edge.

 

 

We know Twilight can't go fast enough to pull off a sonic rainboom, she was just adding some color to Dash's rainboom... I think.

 

 

Its probably more nuanced, with Celestia overall being more powerful but the two knowing different things and having different abilities. We have never seen Celestia dream walk, that's probably something Luna can do but Celestia can't.

 

 

Lets hope for that in season 5! Because I'm getting sick of how Celestia has been used so far.

 

 

Its not the same teleport spell that Twilight uses but it does seem to be a magic based warping ability, notice her horn glowing.

 

1. Like I've said, take away Shining Armor's love for Cadence providing a power boost, and Celestia wins in that case.

 

2. She pulled of her sonic rainboom without needing RD's help if what we saw in 'Princess Twilight Sparkle' is true.

 

3. Probably true in that regard as I'm not going to argue that Celestia can do Luna's dreamwalk ability without more evidence.

 

4. I agree very much.

 

5. I checked on the 'Princess Twilight Sparkle' episode and she does use magic to enhance her speed with the 'Sparkleboom' spell so Luna's spell actually does fall in line with what Twilight did.

[Zoraxe 546]

2. She pulled of her sonic rainboom without needing RD's help if what we saw in 'Princess Twilight Sparkle' is true.

 

5. I checked on the 'Princess Twilight Sparkle' episode and she does use magic to enhance her speed with the 'Sparkleboom' spell so Luna's spell actually does fall in line with what Twilight did.

 

It just seems like a magic light show rather than a rainboom. If Trixie had wings and she sent fireworks off while fying it doesn't make it a Sonic Trixieboom.

 

Luna looked like she was warping, not flying.

Edited August 24, 2014 by Zoraxe

[Nuke87654 1,849]

It just seems like a magic light show rather than a rainboom. If Trixie had wings and she sent fireworks off while fying it doesn't make it a Sonic Trixieboom.

 

Luna looked like she was warping, not flying.

 

Not with what the writers have said that it was essentially Twilight's own version of the Sonic Rainboom thus movement speed would be involved.

 

That panel still showed nothing similar to what a teleportation spell in FIM usually is but is more akin to what Twilight and Rainbow Dash has done.

[Fractured 2,684]

It just seems like a magic light show rather than a rainboom. If Trixie had wings and she sent fireworks off while fying it doesn't make it a Sonic Trixieboom.

 

Luna looked like she was warping, not flying.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1ax2tn_my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-princess-twilight-sparkle-s4e1-2_shortfilms ~40:40

It actually blows away clouds in the background, it's not an illusion