Nuke87654 1,849 September 4, 2014 Share September 4, 2014 http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/04/opinion/mccartney-college-students-free-speech/index.html?hpt=hp_t3 This article talks about how we allow extremism and other forms of discourse in colleges to where we disallow any unpopular opinions for the sake of ensuring we have a social environment to our designs. She even suggests to not only discourage such dangers but to also allow forums where we can freely talk about our beliefs and others and meld minds so to say on matters. What do you guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overdrive 5,366 September 4, 2014 Share September 4, 2014 You do realize CNN is run by a bunch of conservative jackasses, right? They discourage anything new, or extreme. They're as conservative as Fox News is pointless. 2 "I'd rather trust and regret, than doubt and regret." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerdy Luigi 2,065 September 4, 2014 Share September 4, 2014 You do realize CNN is run by a bunch of conservative jackasses, right? They discourage anything new, or extreme. They're as conservative as Fox News is pointless. Exactly why I will not ever go on a CNN website, or watch the channel. Extreme conservatives (extremists of the idiot party). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke87654 1,849 September 4, 2014 Author Share September 4, 2014 You do realize CNN is run by a bunch of conservative jackasses, right? They discourage anything new, or extreme. They're as conservative as Fox News is pointless. Thought the label on them was liberal propaganda Regardless, I particularly liked this article and feel other people needs to read this for my stated reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overdrive 5,366 September 4, 2014 Share September 4, 2014 Thought the label on them was liberal propaganda Regardless, I particularly liked this article and feel other people needs to read this for my stated reasons. That's Fox News, which is an absolute joke anyway. 1 "I'd rather trust and regret, than doubt and regret." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke87654 1,849 September 4, 2014 Author Share September 4, 2014 Either way, have you guys read the article? What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overdrive 5,366 September 4, 2014 Share September 4, 2014 Here's how you have to look at it: the government can't truly solve something. When they "try," they end up creating more problems. As liberal as I actually am, they have no right to infringe on our rights. 1 "I'd rather trust and regret, than doubt and regret." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke87654 1,849 September 4, 2014 Author Share September 4, 2014 Here's how you have to look at it: the government can't truly solve something. When they "try," they end up creating more problems. As liberal as I actually am, they have no right to infringe on our rights. But I'm not asking about that, I'm asking about the idea of creating forums in colleges to allow people to voice their beliefs freely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overdrive 5,366 September 4, 2014 Share September 4, 2014 I do that as it is. It's called bitching about life. "I'd rather trust and regret, than doubt and regret." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashen Pathfinder 16,161 September 4, 2014 Share September 4, 2014 Honestly, I thought what the article addressed was fair. I mean, it was presented fairly neutral; favoring neither side. Really, I think the concern is legitimate, though I never really saw it when I was in college, but I think what the author describes can be good for students in the future. 2 Pathfinder I Sojourner I Corsair | Zu'hra I Autumn | Scarlet Willow | Gypsy | Silverthorn | Crystal Whisper | Radiant Historia | And many other OCs~ Matching signatures with mah Bestie MOONLIGHT <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Herald 169 September 4, 2014 Share September 4, 2014 Here's how you have to look at it: the government can't truly solve something. When they "try," they end up creating more problems. As liberal as I actually am, they have no right to infringe on our rights. Opinions are nice, but he asked you a question about the ARTICLE. Not the people who wrote it. Sorry, this thread was getting off-topic fast. Continue. 1 Silver Herald X Solarshine since 2012! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke87654 1,849 September 4, 2014 Author Share September 4, 2014 Honestly, I thought what the article addressed Merely pointing out a problem of College's allowing extremist views in policital spectrums to flourish and disallow other dissenting opinions to be heard. What the article is suggesting is to disallow such incidences to occur and encourage colleges to create a place to allow people to freely discuss their beliefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerdy Luigi 2,065 September 4, 2014 Share September 4, 2014 A government should not intervene unless in a solution accepted by the people. What? It may as well LITERALLY be half of what the Declaration of Independence says. So, agreeing with my quite liberal viewpoints, this may be right, but it'll be no good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashen Pathfinder 16,161 September 4, 2014 Share September 4, 2014 Merely pointing out a problem of College's allowing extremist views in policital spectrums to flourish and disallow other dissenting opinions to be heard. What the article is suggesting is to disallow such incidences to occur and encourage colleges to create a place to allow people to freely discuss their beliefs. I aologize; when I was first writing that I aciidentally posted it WAY too early. I edited in turn. Again, apologies. ^^ 1 Pathfinder I Sojourner I Corsair | Zu'hra I Autumn | Scarlet Willow | Gypsy | Silverthorn | Crystal Whisper | Radiant Historia | And many other OCs~ Matching signatures with mah Bestie MOONLIGHT <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PineappleKAKE 14 September 4, 2014 Share September 4, 2014 I'm not sure if these CNN bashing posts hold some sort of irony or not. xD(Pssst! Fox is the Conservative one! Ya mixing 'em up anyway!) Ah well, the article seems okay, if a little standard. "Echo chambers r bad!" talk of doing stuff, but no real action. The problem doesn't necessarily lie with extremism, it's that extremism is LOUD 1 Skype me: PineappleKAKE If I'm online, I'm up for a chat! ^^ I'm also much more active on skype than ANYWHERE else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke87654 1,849 September 4, 2014 Author Share September 4, 2014 A government should not intervene unless in a solution accepted by the people. What? It may as well LITERALLY be half of what the Declaration of Independence says. So, agreeing with my quite liberal viewpoints, this may be right, but it'll be no good. That's not what the article was talking about though. I aologize; when I was first writing that I aciidentally posted it WAY too early. I edited in turn. Again, apologies. ^^ No problem, thank you very much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overdrive 5,366 September 4, 2014 Share September 4, 2014 Regardless, I have plenty of issues with the government in this country. "I'd rather trust and regret, than doubt and regret." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerdy Luigi 2,065 September 4, 2014 Share September 4, 2014 That's not what the article was talking about though. May not be talking about government intervention, but the college has a sort of governing body, am I correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PineappleKAKE 14 September 4, 2014 Share September 4, 2014 May not be talking about government intervention, but the college has a sort of governing body, am I correct? You want anarchy in academia, then? >.> Skype me: PineappleKAKE If I'm online, I'm up for a chat! ^^ I'm also much more active on skype than ANYWHERE else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overdrive 5,366 September 4, 2014 Share September 4, 2014 Yes. There's a governing board overseeing each college, at least non-state owned anyway. "I'd rather trust and regret, than doubt and regret." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke87654 1,849 September 4, 2014 Author Share September 4, 2014 I'm not sure if these CNN bashing posts hold some sort of irony or not. xD (Pssst! Fox is the Conservative one! Ya mixing 'em up anyway!) Ah well, the article seems okay, if a little standard. "Echo chambers r bad!" talk of doing stuff, but no real action. The problem doesn't necessarily lie with extremism, it's that extremism is LOUD Agreed that it was a little standard, and the problem is that it's the extremism itself that's often heard and taken over all else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henny Penny Benny 936 September 4, 2014 Share September 4, 2014 (edited) You do realize CNN is run by a bunch of conservative jackasses, right? They discourage anything new, or extreme. They're as conservative as Fox News is pointless. The article didn't discourage anything extreme, though. Quite the contrary, it encourages people to engage in difficult, potentially offensive debates, but to do so in a respectful manner. Either way, have you guys read the article? What do you think? I quite enjoyed the article, actually! Particularly these bits: These discussions may not lead to universally held views. That shouldn't be the goal. But we can learn to disagree without demonizing, to protest without personalizing. A form of protest whose aim is to silence a voice rather than engage it has no place at our colleges and universities. Edited September 4, 2014 by Henny Penny Benny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerdy Luigi 2,065 September 4, 2014 Share September 4, 2014 You want anarchy in academia, then? >.> That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that intervention in this, and most cases, should be a people's vote. Before that I stated that I wouldn't support such necessarily. It could go awry. Quite so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeric 46,851 September 4, 2014 Share September 4, 2014 Thought the label on them was liberal propaganda Conservatives: "CNN is almost as bad as MSNBC" Liberals: "CNN is almost as bad as FOX NEWS" Jeric: Hmm. I want to find out what is happening in the US. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overdrive 5,366 September 4, 2014 Share September 4, 2014 There's only 1 way to find out. "I'd rather trust and regret, than doubt and regret." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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