movies/tv Pacific Rim Kaiju vs Godzilla

[Hive King 2,001]

The Pacific Rim Kaiju are scaled up so that one assumes that Gipsy Danger's weight is equal to Godzilla's. 

 

Anyway, the Pacific Rim Kaiju are

Knifehead

Gypsy Danger

Cherno Apha

Crimson Typhoon

Stryker Eureka

Gypsy Danger

Otachi

Leatherback

Raiju

Scunner

Slattern

 

The Godzillas being shown are

70's Goji

Heisei Goji

Godzilla 2000

GMK

[~Sole~ 852]

Hmm... I think all versions of Zilla lose (especially the 2000 abomination) except maybe Heisei. Also, what does GMK stand for?

[Hive King 2,001]

Hmm... I think all versions of Zilla lose (especially the 2000 abomination) except maybe Heisei. Also, what does GMK stand for?

Godzilla, Mothra, King Ghidorah, monsters all out attack. That would be the 2001 Godzilla

 

Also, I think you misunderstand, this isn't a team fight, this is seeing which individuals they can beat

[Darker 1,352]

Any Godzilla can just pick up any of those guys and throw it into space while blasting them with his atomic breath, just like he did to Kaizer Ghidorah or Biollante.

 

70s Godzilla probably loses to Slattern only because of size.

Heisei Godzi slaughters them all. Durability+Strength=Own'd.

Godzilla 2000 is still pretty small in comparison but has insane durability. Black Hole >>>>>>> 1.2 MT nuke

GMK is insane and the most evil and ruthless Godzilla of them all. They needed Ghidorah, Mothra and Barugan to stop him, and it wasn't that effective after all.

 

Hmm... I think all versions of Zilla lose (especially the 2000 abomination) except maybe Heisei. Also, what does GMK stand for?

Please... Don't ever call the King for the name Zilla again. That's Fakezilla's name.

[Hive King 2,001]

 

 

Any Godzilla can just pick up any of those guys and throw it into space while blasting them with his atomic breath, just like he did to Kaizer Ghidorah or Biollante.

Except that as I said, the PR Kaiju have their weight scaled up. Also, no one here is Gokuzilla and Godzilla was getting his ass kicked by Biollante. 

 

 

70s Godzilla probably loses to Slattern only because of size.

Otachi's acid murks him, Leatherback's feat of tossing Gypsy Danger like a baseball puts even Titanosaur's kicks to shame, Striker and Gypsy are too skilled

 

 

Heisei Godzi slaughters them all. Durability+Strength=Own'd.

Slattern can take him, weight advantage here is very helpful as well as his tail whips

 

 

Godzilla 2000 is still pretty small in comparison but has insane durability. Black Hole >>>>>>> 1.2 MT nuke

Except that he was also getting hurt by falling rubble. The black hole feat was PIS and you know it

 

 

GMK is insane and the most evil and ruthless Godzilla of them all. They needed Ghidorah, Mothra and Barugan to stop him, and it wasn't that effective after all.  

That's mostly because he eats spirit energy. That'd be like sending a fire demon after Gamera. The fact that he was even having trouble with them is shameful

 

 

Please... Don't ever call the King for the name Zilla again. That's Fakezilla's name.

I hate Zilla, but Zilla can kill a good amount of the earlier Godzillas 

[Singe 2,111]

Pacific Rim Kaiju you listed have 4 digit weights below 9000 tons compared to all Godzilla(s) who has a 5 digit weight being 20,000 for Showa, 50,000 - 60,000 for Heisi, 25,000 for 2000, 30,000 for GMK and 55,000 for GFW.

 

Showa Godzilla has at least more than twice the weight of Knifehead. Other Godzillas are three or more times the mass compared to the other PR kaiju. 

 

Broken down, PR kaiju are Lightweights taking on a Super Heavyweights. Pacfic Rim Kaiju aren't going to win on a battle of strength against Godzilla when he also has incredible endurance and regeneration capabilities.

Edited September 13, 2014 by Singe

[~Sole~ 852]

I call Godzilla 'Zilla' for short, not after fakezilla lol.

 

Also, you should have Final wars Zilla here for a bonus round. He'd solo them all at once.

[Hive King 2,001]

@@Singe,

THEIR WEIGHTS ARE SCALED UP SO GYPSY DANGER EQUALS THE GODZILLA THEY'RE FIGHTING! THIS MUST BE BOLDED BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT TO THE THREAD! THE OTHER KAIJU'S WEIGHTS ARE INCREASED TO THE SAME RATIO, FOR EXAMPLE, A KAIJU 20% HEAVIER THAN GYPSY DANGER WOULD BE 20% HEAVIER THAN GODZILLA!

@,

 He MIGHT take Knifehead, everyone else is too much

Edited September 13, 2014 by Evil Dragon Master

[Singe 2,111]

I'm just going to go with that neither side knows what the other is capable of. Pacfic Rim thinks Godzilla is just some other Kaiju and Godzilla has no idea of the PR Kaiju capabilities.

 

So which Pacfic Rim Kaiju can actually stand up to Godzilla's atomic breath?

 

Considering Godzilla's main style of fighting mostly tends to be start from a distance: atomic breath, atomic breath, atomic breath, atomic breath. Even in close combat Godzilla will atomic breath, atomic breath, atomic breath.

 

I looked up these listed PR Kaiju and none of them seem to have any sort of protection against Godzilla's atomic breath. So my decision is that Godzilla could just kill them quickly with his atomic breath.

[Hive King 2,001]

@@Singe,

All of them? A category 1 kaiju can apparently take several tactical nukes to be killed, they should take it just fine.

 

And incorrect

 

70's Godzilla prefers close range brawling to atomic breath

Heisei Godzilla does do that

Godzilla 2000 prefers a mixture

GMK uses almost nothing but the breath 

[~Sole~ 852]

Final wars would only beat knifehead? Am I missing something? He's one of Godzilla's strongest incarnations, second would be Marvel Godzilla.

 

Also, you should throw in Horse king Heracles from Toriko, he's basically a really OP kaiju. Now he COULD beat them all lol

[Hive King 2,001]

 

 

Final wars would only beat knifehead? Am I missing something? He's one of Godzilla's strongest incarnations, second would be Marvel Godzilla.

Sorry, but you said FW Zilla and so I thought of the guy who died in 13 seconds. No, FW GODzilla would wreck the whole list

 

 

Also, you should throw in Horse king Heracles from Toriko, he's basically a really OP kaiju. Now he COULD beat them all lol

Dunno who he is, but there are more powerful out there

 

Giant Claw: Anti-matter shield

Guilala: Eats every type of energy

Armor Mothra: Atomizes you

Daimajin: Can banish you to Hell 

[Singe 2,111]

@@Singe,

All of them? A category 1 kaiju can apparently take several tactical nukes to be killed, they should take it just fine.

 

And incorrect

 

70's Godzilla prefers close range brawling to atomic breath

Heisei Godzilla does do that

Godzilla 2000 prefers a mixture

GMK uses almost nothing but the breath 

Jagers which aren't actual Kaiju and thus the Category class wouldn't apply to this, they were made for hand to hand combat and be destroyed by Godzilla's breath.

 

As for the other Kaiju, the properties of a tactical nuke is different from a more concentrated atomic energy breath attack.

Edited September 13, 2014 by Singe

[Hive King 2,001]

@@Singe,

Except that Mechagodzilla's tin foil armor was able to take multiple blasts without coming apart 

[~Sole~ 852]

Yeah, like I said, I call Godzilla 'Zilla' for short. I know that's also the name of the American abomination, but that's my fault for the mixup. Sorry

 

And I'm not so sure they'd be stronger. She almost killed someone capable of destroying a whole continent just by blowing on him like one might a candle. She can also suck all the oxygen out of the air for several kilometers around herself, basically turning it into her own personal vacuum of space. She's also physically strong enough to kick said continent destroyer into outer space with one kick. On top of all that, She's extremely hard to kill, having the ability to regenerate, adapt to deadly environments and situations via her advanced cells, and being big enough to dwarf a mountain range

 

Heracles is a she btw, I accidentally call her "he" a lot because it's only recently discovered lol

[Singe 2,111]

@@Singe,

Except that Mechagodzilla's tin foil armor was able to take multiple blasts without coming apart 

 

Mechagodzillas were made to combat Godzilla. Jaegar series would have no such adaptations to battle a walking nuclear reactor. Especially Heisei Godzilla who can absorb nuclear energy and would be capable of going vampire on those Jaegar.

 

As for the answer of Godzilla's atomic breath vs. a PR Kaiju.

Slattern a Category V was killed by Gipsy Danger using its "nuclear turbine" resulting in blast burns through Slattern's chest and its internal organs, killing it. Which was after being wounded by a thermonuclear bomb.

 

So up to a Class V doesn't have the level of durability to nuclear power like Godzilla has. The atomic breath is more akin to an atomic blast burn than a tactical nuke. So again, I don't see much in the way of any PR Kaiju beating Godzilla.

Edited September 13, 2014 by Singe

[Hive King 2,001]

 

 

Mechagodzillas were made to combat Godzilla.

By your logic, here's the chain

Anguirus's jump(it chipped off Mechagodzilla's armor)>Mechagodzilla>Atomic Breath

Yup, that makes total sense.

 

 

Especially Heisei Godzilla who can absorb nuclear energy and would be capable of going vampire on those Jaegar

Biollante and Ghidorah were both radioactive yet both wiped the floor with him

 

 

As for the answer of Godzilla's atomic breath vs. a PR Kaiju. Slattern a Category V was killed by Gipsy Danger using its "nuclear turbine" resulting in blast burns through Slattern's chest and its internal organs, killing it. Which was after being wounded by a thermonuclear bomb. So up to a Class V doesn't have the level of durability to nuclear power like Godzilla has.

Your point being? Destroyah has about as much resistance as wet tissue paper vs the cold, doesn't mean he's weak. The fact that Slattern was even alive after a blast like that puts most monsters to shame

[Singe 2,111]

By your logic, here's the chain

Anguirus's jump(it chipped off Mechagodzilla's armor)>Mechagodzilla>Atomic Breath

Yup, that makes total sense.

 

 

Biollante and Ghidorah were both radioactive yet both wiped the floor with him

 

 

Your point being? Destroyah has about as much resistance as wet tissue paper vs the cold, doesn't mean he's weak. The fact that Slattern was even alive after a blast like that puts most monsters to shame

 

You haven't disproved anything I said. Mechagodzilla is irrelevant in this debate as the technology in the Godzilla movies is different from Pacific Rim. Biollante and Ghidorah are biological creatures compared to the artificial robots that are Jaegars. You still haven't countered the point that the atomic breath would still work and could kill a Class V.

 

The atomic breath matters because there is nothing stopping Godzilla from spamming it against them.

Edited September 13, 2014 by Singe

[Hive King 2,001]

@@Singe,

The reason why it wouldn't is because of the fact that Godzilla's blasts have aren't on par with a nuke

 

70's Godzilla: Can barely melt metal and has little concussive force 

Heisei Godzilla: Sometimes brings down buildings in one shot, sometimes not

Godzilla 2000: Pretty nice power behind it, mostly heat, but even so. Still not on par with a nuke, but it will hurt

GMK: Has little heat but tons of punch behind his beam, which works to his advantage as he can keep them at bay

[Singe 2,111]

@@Singe,

The reason why it wouldn't is because of the fact that Godzilla's blasts have aren't on par with a nuke

 

70's Godzilla: Can barely melt metal and has little concussive force 

Heisei Godzilla: Sometimes brings down buildings in one shot, sometimes not

Godzilla 2000: Pretty nice power behind it, mostly heat, but even so. Still not on par with a nuke, but it will hurt

GMK: Has little heat but tons of punch behind his beam, which works to his advantage as he can keep them at bay

 

Godzilla has the ability to adjust the intensity of his atomic breath. A nuke is an explosion of destructive force. The atomic breath is a concentrated form of nuclear energy in a flow which isn't going to have the same delivery output as a bomb.

Edited September 13, 2014 by Singe

[Hive King 2,001]

 

 

Godzilla has the ability to adjust the intensity of his atomic breath

That has never happened

 

 

A nuke is an explosion of destructive force. The atomic breath is a concentrated form of nuclear energy in a flow which isn't going to have the same delivery output as a bomb.

The nuke in PR blew out a hole in the water for a few seconds, that puts the breath of all Godzillas save for FW to shame 

[Singe 2,111]

That has never happened

 

 

The nuke in PR blew out a hole in the water for a few seconds, that puts the breath of all Godzillas save for FW to shame 

 

Godzilla created a stream of superheated vapor using his breath in 1950/60s. Godzilla 2000: Millennium and Godzilla vs. Megaguirus, it changes from blue to reddish orange to signify an increased level of power. He has the Red Spiral breath. 

 

Godzilla's breath destroyed a miniature black hole which puts that nuke to shame.

[Hive King 2,001]

 

 

Godzilla created a stream of superheated vapor using his breath in 1950/60s. Godzilla 2000: Millennium and Godzilla vs. Megaguirus, it changes from blue to reddish orange to signify an increased level of power. He has the Red Spiral breath

It's called different incarnations, none of the Godzillas save for a few are even in the same timeline

 

 

Godzilla's breath destroyed a miniature black hole which puts that nuke to shame.

Which is heinously inconsistent and makes about as much sense as Spider-Man beating on Firelord 

[Singe 2,111]

If you want a more consistent point, then Godzilla would still beat those PR Kaiju. Even with matching weights, the PR Kaiju are still built as 4 digit weights and would be physically hindered by that excess 5 digit weight. Godzilla fights mainly 5 digit opponents.

 

You brought up Destroyah taking Godzilla's best hit but he's 80,000 tons taking that. PR Kaiju would still have the same defenses as their 4 digit selves as that added weight isn't going to impact their offensive, defensive, or especially speed.

Edited September 14, 2014 by Singe

[Hive King 2,001]

 

 

If you want a more consistent point, then Godzilla would still beat those PR Kaiju. Even with matching weights, the PR Kaiju are still built as 4 digit weights and would be physically hindered by that excess 5 digit weight. Godzilla fights mainly 5 digit opponents.

That's not what I mean by scaling up. I mean scaling up in the style of the Godzilla games so that Megalon isn't half as tall as Destroyah