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If the villains weren't villains...


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... what would they do in Equestria?

Is this simple enough?

Alright let's see.

If Chrysalis wasn't a villain what would she do in Equestria?

If Sombra returned with the Crystal Empire what would he do if he wasn't evil?

How could the show have used them?

Note:I am not discussing redemptions here. I am merely creating a "What if?" scenario. We have already seen from the comics that there are alternate versions of villains and stuff. But i wonder... What would you guys picture characters like Chrysalis, Sombra, Discord, Sunset Shimmer, doing if they didn't "Fall from Grace" per say?

Another note:I am not saying you go and reverse other characters but if you want to put some other villains in there it'd be welcome.

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They could be some serious help to celestia in managing equestria, doubtlessly. Because they seem very able, and arguably hard working and dedicated too. They could improve the living standards of equestria a lot using their powerful magic.

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This actually happened in the comics, at least in Sombra's case. 
There was a time where the Mane Six had to go to an alternate universe Equestria where Sombra is the ruler, and is good instead of evil.
Oh, and apparently Princess Celestia is- no, I probably shouldn't say it, it would be spoilers if you haven't read that particular issue of the comics yet.

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This actually happened in the comics, at least in Sombra's case. 

There was a time where the Mane Six had to go to an alternate universe Equestria where Sombra is the ruler, and is good instead of evil.

Oh, and apparently Princess Celestia is- no, I probably shouldn't say it, it would be spoilers if you haven't read that particular issue of the comics yet.

I know of what he and she... The alternate universe one? Look i did say i know of this, i mentioned it on the OP. I just would like to see what you think the show would do with them if they weren't villains, plus what would you think they would do if they weren't villains.

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shouldn't we be keeping comics spoiler free outside the print media section?

 

Ah well, anyways, I think then they wouldn't really exist as characters. You can't have good characters without good conflict ;)

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@@Treble Bolt,Isn't there conflict between good characters as well? I mean isn't the conflicts of the mane 6 just the same thing as what you say? I wouldn't exclude them becoming villains later, but what if their beginnings in fim weren't those? 

What would they be doing? What would be their job?

@@Darker, He could be something like Chiron to Hercules. Chiron is a centaur that was like a mentor to Hercules. Dunno... maybe he Bulk Biceps and Iron Will could have some sort of Gym thingie? Just saying.

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@@Darker, He could be something like Chiron to Hercules. Chiron is a centaur that was like a mentor to Hercules. Dunno... maybe he Bulk Biceps and Iron Will could have some sort of Gym thingie? Just saying.

 

I can't imagine Tirek having the same personality as Chiron. That's too silly. :lol:


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Lots of things? Like what?

 

I would also like Salamander ponies :D That would be nice.

 

Why Scorpan and Tirek are brothers, yet so different. They weren't in G1, I don't know why they were in G4, I guess it was to make their relationship more effective, yet G1 still does a better job at that for the mere fact that Tirek does not leave Scorpan one moment alone, and keeps torturing and screaming at him.

 

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@@Treble Bolt,Isn't there conflict between good characters as well? I mean isn't the conflicts of the mane 6 just the same thing as what you say? I wouldn't exclude them becoming villains later, but what if their beginnings in fim weren't those? 

 

What would they be doing? What would be their job?

 

There's a problem with that though. FIM is a mixture of Slice-of-life and adventure. The characters we know as real "villians" in the context of this show would not exist if it was solely slice-of-life. If we were to go route you suggest, the conflict wouldn't really be there if they were to keep it child friendly....they would revert to "Simple Ways" style conflict...not much for "development" there. I mean, are they threatening in that context? Plus they wouldn't become the same "evil" in the way Chrysalis and Sombra were portrayed, it would just be misunderstandings and jealousy (like Equestria Girls)....

There is always conflict between characters, and even in real life, we have conflicts with our closed friends and loved ones, but when you step back, nearly all your conflicts with close people involve misunderstandings and jealousy (any form of selfishness really)...

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Nightmare Moon: Well, she is technically Princess Luna. Nightmare Moon herself likely wouldn't exist period.

 

Discord: Well, he is reforming right now, so...

 

Chrysalis: Well, if she wasn't evil, I'm sure she'd be much more diplomatic about feeding ther Changelings.

 

Sombra: Well, he was probably the most evil of all of the G4 villains, but...I see him essentially being a male Twilight if he wasn't evil.

 

Tirek: Probably similar to Scorpan, I would imagine.


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@@Treble Bolt,As i said in the OP. You could very well replace them with other villains. My thought is what would they do if they weren't evil. A purely hypothetical scenario that looks at the characters themselves rather than the whole universe and what would happen on the rest.

@@PathfinderCS,  See you have the right image.

I would picture Princess Luna as Bipolar and Nightmare Moon being the other personality she has.

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The concept of morality in the show would be various shades of grey instead of white and black "good and evil."

 

It could easily have Celestia portrayed in a way that she's a puppet master who manipulates who others.

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The concept of morality in the show would be various shades of grey instead of white and black "good and evil."

 

It could easily have Celestia portrayed in a way that she's a puppet master who manipulates who others.

Never said there wouldnt be any other villains thats not the point of this topic. I am just asking what they would be doing.
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