SynBassilicious Pony 322 July 5, 2015 Share July 5, 2015 Also, Uncle Granpa is awesome and hilarious. https://youtu.be/_n5E7feJHw0 And yet you consider MLP bad? How so? I can't tell if serious. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Enchantress 587 July 5, 2015 Author Share July 5, 2015 (edited) https://youtu.be/_n5E7feJHw0 And yet you consider MLP bad? How so? I can't tell if serious. Because MLP is so boring and unfunny. Uncle Grandpa is hilarious, well animated, and well written. (At least the pilot was, I haven't kept up with it since then.) Sorry, but your argument that "weird and random = bad" basically says "I hate cartoons and entertainment in general, kids need to learn to not have fun" to me. Edited July 5, 2015 by Grumpy Enchantress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlecandylulu903 415 July 5, 2015 Share July 5, 2015 There's no such thing as 'overrated' or 'underrated'. How good/bad it is comes down to opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SynBassilicious Pony 322 July 5, 2015 Share July 5, 2015 (edited) Because MLP is so boring and unfunny. But Uncle Grandpa is for little kids too and has cringeworthy unfunny jokes. And why does it have less than a 5/10 on IMDb? Also I think apples and oranges are being compared here. MLP is a show about colorful talking ponies and Equestria and stuff. Uncle Grandpa is a very different show, so I don't think it's reasonable to say that one show is definitely "better" than the other. Edited July 5, 2015 by SynBassilicious Pony 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Enchantress 587 July 5, 2015 Author Share July 5, 2015 (edited) But Uncle Grandpa is for little kids too and has cringeworthy unfunny jokes. To be fair, I've only seen the pilot, but I did love it. Maybe it's not as good in the actual series? I'm not sure. I'd agree that Breadwinners is cringeworthy, but certainly not what I saw of Uncle Grandpa. Anyway, all I'm responding to is you saying that "weird" and "random" is rude and juvenile, which to me basically means we shouldn't let kids have fun and should instead litter their cartoons with good values and morals. (Although, I don't disagree that "random" can be obnoxious when people think it's the only thing that makes something funny. I'd point to iCarly as an example of that. Not sure how loosely you're using that word.) I'm not defending Breadwinners at all and I'm only defending the pilot of Uncle Grandpa, but I disagree with the specific things you're complaining about in them. Edited July 5, 2015 by Grumpy Enchantress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SynBassilicious Pony 322 July 5, 2015 Share July 5, 2015 you saying that "weird" and "random" is bad and juvenile Well, it depends. My wording in that post was pretty vague since I didn't really explain what my definition of "weird" and "random" is. It's not always bad. Episode 100 of MLP was weird and random to me for example, but I still liked it, whereas Uncle Grandpa or Breadwinners is weird and random too, but in a different...way...because... I have no idea what I'm saying now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Enchantress 587 July 5, 2015 Author Share July 5, 2015 (edited) Well, it depends. My wording in that post was pretty vague since I didn't really explain what my definition of "weird" and "random" is. It's not always bad. Episode 100 of MLP was weird and random to me for example, but I still liked it, whereas Uncle Grandpa or Breadwinners is weird and random too, but in a different...way...because... I have no idea what I'm saying now. Okay, thanks for clarifying. I think I know what you mean now, what I've seen of Breadwinners is awful and has no wit to it, but I've also seen a lot of good shows that could be called "weird" that have a lot of wit and great humor, but I guess you didn't mean shows like that. I didn't think Uncle Grandpa was like that, though. Maybe the show is worse than the pilot was, I dunno. I hardly watch any new shows at all, so I'm not that up to date and am just going by what little I've seen. Edited July 5, 2015 by Grumpy Enchantress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshPony 28 July 5, 2015 Share July 5, 2015 (edited) Well, I've watched MLP since the very first episode in 2010, and let me tell you, it was a cartoon that I and a lot of people had been waiting for a long time. Before 2010, the majority of 2000's cartoons were mediocre or had no care to them. MLP FIM was something different, it had care and thought put into it. That's one of the major reasons why it became popular. Those other cartoons like Teen Titans Go, are nothing more than "Hey Kids like weird and bizarre stuff, lets just make it wacky without any thought put into it, and lets cancel the awesome "Green Lantern the animated series" while we're at it. Edited July 5, 2015 by WelshPony Hello, I'm your friendly Neighbourhood Delusional Fanboy. Everything is perfect, and I think the show with colourful ponies is real life, because that's how I roll in life. Oh and Doctor Who and Ancient Aliens is real too. (Nah, skip that last one, I'm not THAT crazy.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Enchantress 587 July 5, 2015 Author Share July 5, 2015 (edited) MLP FIM was something different, it had care and thought put into it. That's one of the major reasons why it became popular. I think the majority of the thought they put into it was about selling toys, not making a good show. Those other cartoons like Teen Titans Go, are nothing more than "Hey Kids like weird and bizarre stuff, lets just make it wacky without any thought put into it., and lets cancel the awesome "Green Lantern the animated series while we're at it." I disagree, I've seen a lot of TTG episodes and I think it's super witty and hilarious with a lot of thought put into the great jokes, especially in Season 2. And it didn't have anything to do with the cancellation of Green Lantern, Green Lantern failed because people weren't watching it. The jokes in MLP are so cringworthy and they actually rely on freaking memes now! They had Twilight say "Brace yourselves, Winter is coming" in a recent episode. That's just despite. What's next, the Harlem Shake? Edited July 5, 2015 by Grumpy Enchantress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshPony 28 July 5, 2015 Share July 5, 2015 No, the show was not just to create toys. Faust brought in people she knew from previous experience because she wanted the show to be enjoyed by kids and adults. She wasn't expecting it to become popular, but it did because Faust tried to make it a good show. And about Teen Titans Go, the reason why Cartoon Network cancelled Green Lantern was because the toys weren't selling, because they didn't even put them on the market, and yes people were watching Green Lantern as it was getting a million viewers and it was critically praised. Teen Titans got off scot free, because the network find the show easy to merchandise. That's it. Hello, I'm your friendly Neighbourhood Delusional Fanboy. Everything is perfect, and I think the show with colourful ponies is real life, because that's how I roll in life. Oh and Doctor Who and Ancient Aliens is real too. (Nah, skip that last one, I'm not THAT crazy.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Enchantress 587 July 5, 2015 Author Share July 5, 2015 (edited) No, the show was not just to create toys. Faust brought in people she knew from previous experience because she wanted the show to be enjoyed by kids and adults. She wasn't expecting it to become popular, but it did because Faust tried to make it a good show. And that's why the first season was watchable. I don't think it was great, but it was watchable. It was still made to sell toys, but they made some effort to make it bearable for adults. Now that she's gone, the show is just like every other show for toddlers, in my opinion. And about Teen Titans Go, the reason why Cartoon Network cancelled Green Lantern was because the toys weren't selling, because they didn't even put them on the market, and yes people were watching Green Lantern as it was getting a million viewers and it was critically praised. Teen Titans got off scot free, because the network find the show easy to merchandise. That's it. TTG gets great ratings too. Just because CN (or Warner, whoever's decision it was) made a stupid decision has nothing to do with TTG itself. It's ridiculous to hold that over the show. Edited July 5, 2015 by Grumpy Enchantress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirox the pony 1,336 July 5, 2015 Share July 5, 2015 The OP's posts aside I will say that MLP USED to be overrated, the first two seasons have not aged well at all. I think the reason people considered these seasons so good at the time is because it came out during a time when there was very little good TV shows around so everyone just jumped on anything that had even the slightest resemblance of quality and declared it amazing. However though this sudden appreciation may have led to it becoming an amazing show. No matter how hard I try these ponies will simply never leave me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshPony 28 July 5, 2015 Share July 5, 2015 Oh boy another person who thinks that Faust was the only reason the show was good. Well at least that explains everything. Yes, Teen Titans Go gets good ratings and that's the problem. Green Lantern had good ratings too, and yet it was cancelled because the toys weren't put on the market, in other words the network played favourite with TTG, and that's not fair. Hello, I'm your friendly Neighbourhood Delusional Fanboy. Everything is perfect, and I think the show with colourful ponies is real life, because that's how I roll in life. Oh and Doctor Who and Ancient Aliens is real too. (Nah, skip that last one, I'm not THAT crazy.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SynBassilicious Pony 322 July 5, 2015 Share July 5, 2015 And that's why the first season was watchable. Now that she's gone, the show is just like every other show for toddlers, in my opinion. Strangely I find the show better after Faust disappeared from it. It's not aimed at "toddlers", at least not entirely. The 100th episode for example was aimed at viewers of all ages, and they put in references and that live action split-second frame that no toddler would understand or even notice. Other episodes have some references that only older viewers are likely to notice, too (the Metal Gear Solid reference for example). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Enchantress 587 July 5, 2015 Author Share July 5, 2015 (edited) Oh boy another person who thinks that Faust was the only reason the show was good. Well at least that explains everything. The show would have been the same as G3.5 if not for her. Yes, she's the reason it was good. Strangely I find the show better after Faust disappeared from it. It's not aimed at "toddlers", at least not entirely. The 100th episode for example was aimed at viewers of all ages, and they put in references and that live action split-second frame that no toddler would understand or even notice. Other episodes have some references that only older viewers are likely to notice, too (the Metal Gear Solid reference for example). Sorry, but how do references make a show good at all? If simply making references made shows good, Family Guy would be the greatest show of all time. When they do stuff like having the Bat-signal or whatever else, it's cute, but in what way does it make the show as a whole good? Lots of kids shows put that type of thing in for the parents who are watching to make it more bearable for them, but it isn't something that's so entertaining you'd seek the show out just for them. Arthur had freaking South Park and Beavis & Butthead references, but I don't see anyone saying that those alone make the whole show enjoyable for people of all ages. In fact, Arthur is a great example, I'd put it on the exact same level as MLP, myself. Edited July 5, 2015 by Grumpy Enchantress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshPony 28 July 5, 2015 Share July 5, 2015 Its not just the references. That was just a small example that the show is aimed at a general audience. And yes Faust made the show good, and its still good, even without her. 1 Hello, I'm your friendly Neighbourhood Delusional Fanboy. Everything is perfect, and I think the show with colourful ponies is real life, because that's how I roll in life. Oh and Doctor Who and Ancient Aliens is real too. (Nah, skip that last one, I'm not THAT crazy.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Enchantress 587 July 5, 2015 Author Share July 5, 2015 (edited) Its not just the references. That was just a small example that the show is aimed at a general audience. Is Arthur aimed at a general audience or is it a kids show? Again, a South Park reference and a Beavis & Butthead were in that show. I know that some adults watch Arthur and that's perfectly fine, I watch a lot of kids shows too, but I call them what they are. And yes Faust made the show good, and its still good, even without her. In your opinion. I disagree, personally. Edited July 5, 2015 by Grumpy Enchantress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshPony 28 July 5, 2015 Share July 5, 2015 Yes, Arthur is aimed at a general audience, because they want the kids and their parents to watch. That's pretty much standard procedure with all kids shows. Hello, I'm your friendly Neighbourhood Delusional Fanboy. Everything is perfect, and I think the show with colourful ponies is real life, because that's how I roll in life. Oh and Doctor Who and Ancient Aliens is real too. (Nah, skip that last one, I'm not THAT crazy.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeekySonic 1,150 July 5, 2015 Share July 5, 2015 I don't think it's at all overrated. I genuinely think it is an amazing show, and I love watching it. Check out my voice-acting demo reels on Casting Call Club, if you'd like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Enchantress 587 July 5, 2015 Author Share July 5, 2015 Yes, Arthur is aimed at a general audience, because they want the kids and their parents to watch. That's pretty much standard procedure with all kids shows. But it's not something intended for adults to seek out, obviously. They're not giving equal thought to adults as they are to kids, they think of kids first and foremost. More specifically, they think of Preschoolers and younger Elementary Schoolers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshPony 28 July 5, 2015 Share July 5, 2015 (edited) So? It's still aimed at a general audience. No matter how much you personally interpret a cartoon. Batman the animated series only had kids in mind, but adults love it, and the networks knew this. And its the same thing with MLP:FIM, it was made for kids, but its still open to a general audience, which includes adults. . Edited July 5, 2015 by WelshPony 1 Hello, I'm your friendly Neighbourhood Delusional Fanboy. Everything is perfect, and I think the show with colourful ponies is real life, because that's how I roll in life. Oh and Doctor Who and Ancient Aliens is real too. (Nah, skip that last one, I'm not THAT crazy.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Enchantress 587 July 5, 2015 Author Share July 5, 2015 So? It's still aimed at a general audience. No matter how much you personally interpret a cartoon. No, aimed at a general audience would be more something like The Muppet Show, which basically put equal focus on kids and adults and just tried to be entertaining without worrying about who the demographic is. MLP is still a kids show that has some appeal to people outside of the target age group. Batman the animated series only had kids in mind, but adults love it, and the networks knew this. That's not true at all. If you listen to the behind the scenes, they say that one of the main things they fought for in the show was not to make it dumbed down for kids. And its the same thing with MLP:FIM, it was made for kids, but its still open to a general audience, which includes adults. "My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, a show about colorful ponies that learn lessons of friendship is the same thing as Batman: The Animated Series, a show that dealt with topics like murder, terrorist attacks, and insanity." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicSpark 2,120 July 5, 2015 Share July 5, 2015 The show is intended for a much younger audience than us, I think the show has come along way is getting a lot better but that's your opinion. Remember this FIM isn't all to do with the show, its also to do with the friends you have made, the amazing art, music and fim fiction. If you think you are loosing interest then you need to get out there try different things, anime, gaming there is a lot of things I do outside the fandom, that keeps me interested in the fandom. Ask Cosmic Spark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownFry 169 July 5, 2015 Share July 5, 2015 Yes and no. It can be over hyped at times, but the quality of it has remained fairly consistent while improving, and the fact it has lasted as long as is a compliment There is nothing wrong with it being product driven first with story second mentality either though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshPony 28 July 5, 2015 Share July 5, 2015 (edited) @GrumpyEnchantless 1st point: Yes The Muppet Show was aimed at kids and adults, in other words, A General Audience, same with MLP: FIM it was made for kids but aimed at a general audience too, like all kids shows. 2nd point: Perhaps you didn't read my post properly. Batman Tas was MADE for kids, but like all kids shows it was aimed at a general audience. 3rd point: Batman the animated series was made for kids, end of story. Besides FIM has invasions, monsters attacking the characters, and one episode had a villain enslave an entire city. Its not all friendship and cuddles. Edited July 5, 2015 by WelshPony 1 Hello, I'm your friendly Neighbourhood Delusional Fanboy. Everything is perfect, and I think the show with colourful ponies is real life, because that's how I roll in life. Oh and Doctor Who and Ancient Aliens is real too. (Nah, skip that last one, I'm not THAT crazy.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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