Season 5 finale affected Rainbow Rocks?

[TheMarkz0ne 962]

I know people don't like EQG that much I prefer FiM over the humanized characters.The mirror to the other world is something the Sirens could potentially escape from. Now there are many ways we can draw this scenario out. But for the sake of simplicity, lets bend the rules a bit.

 

-Nightmare Moon is defeated 

-Discord gets turned to stone again.

-Chrysalis failed her invasion 

-Sombra failed

-Tirek failed.

 

Celestia did this all with her sister Luna( well except NMM of course) Twilight in this scenario is basically nother Sunset Shimmer, Twilight grew obsessed with sheer magical power and left Celestia on a bad note. Twilight grows bitter and angry, seeks power and power alone. You can pick either villain, but Twilight is either mentored and raised by Chrysalis or Sombra. Tirek wouldn't want to teach a disciple in my opinion. 

 

Dash is still weather patrol 

Fluttershy is a lonely animal care taker

AJ does more farm work

Rarity is having trouble living her fashion dream

Pinkie Pie left the rock farm, but spends more time working at sugar cube corner

Spike is depressed from Twilight's departure. He is Celestia's assistant.

 

I had to take Twilight out because she is the one who was involved in stopping Sunset Shimmer. So Shimmer is in the human world, no stolen crown, because Twilight is not a princess. Instead, the Sirens eventually discover Sunset Shimmer is a unicorn from Equestria... Whatever way possible, they ask on how to return back home. Sirens eventually succeed, Sunset Shimmer is turned into their mind slave.

 

Would the Sirens be able to defeat Celestia and Luna? Even Cadence? 

[Megas 28,133]

Weren't the Sirens already in Humanland far before Celestia and Luna were even born

[SilverComet 170]

I know people don't like EQG that much I prefer FiM over the humanized characters.The mirror to the other world is something the Sirens could potentially escape from. Now there are many ways we can draw this scenario out. But for the sake of simplicity, lets bend the rules a bit.

 

-Nightmare Moon is defeated 

-Discord gets turned to stone again.

-Chrysalis failed her invasion 

-Sombra failed

-Tirek failed.

 

Celestia did this all with her sister Luna( well except NMM of course) Twilight in this scenario is basically nother Sunset Shimmer, Twilight grew obsessed with sheer magical power and left Celestia on a bad note. Twilight grows bitter and angry, seeks power and power alone. You can pick either villain, but Twilight is either mentored and raised by Chrysalis or Sombra. Tirek wouldn't want to teach a disciple in my opinion. 

 

 

This first part:

You got something wrong about Unicorn!Twilight; in any of the altered timelines she is not Celestia´s pupil.

In fact (unless her parents did something ilegal), she should not be allowed to enter Celestia´s School for Gifted Unicorns, because she has no observable talent on magic [she failed the entrance exam].

Also, Spike should remain as a dragon egg for a few extra centuries [if not thousands of years].

  

Regardless of this, even if she somehow became one of the many normal students of the school; she would not become power hungry nor will escape.

First, because the seeds of distrust and underestimation of her capacity to understand secrets about magic (that prompted Sunset Shimmer´s natural rage; because of her sanguine/coleric personality) would not be there to begin with [precisely because of the experience with Sunset Shimmer].

Celestia will either conceal perfectly that knowledge [for super Safety]; or it will introduce any potential student into "other dark stuff" first in order to learn about their ambitions, commitment and patience (giving them the benefit of the doubt, even if it risk losing them to "the dark side").

 

Even if unicorn!Twilight becomes evil or misguided regardless, she would not look to learn things from other villains (nor they will accept her as a pupil, because they will think she is a spy working for Celestia).

  

If you force this situation... Chrysalis can not teach much to a unicorn (unless conversion into a changeling is posible... unlikely).

Sombra does not need an aware, free unicorn learning his secrets: he could just cast a obedience spell (or put those war helmets) to make her another usefull soldier in his army.

 

In fact, the only one that may be interested on having help from an unicorn would be Tirek (when he is weak and helpless); only to betray her and took her magic later.  

 

Dash is still weather patrol 

Fluttershy is a lonely animal care taker

AJ does more farm work

Rarity is having trouble living her fashion dream

Pinkie Pie left the rock farm, but spends more time working at sugar cube corner

Spike is depressed from Twilight's departure. He is Celestia's assistant.

 

 

Spike is an egg in all altered timelines. If super lucky, a unicorn with a cutiemark in hatching chicken eggs may do the trick and make him a baby dragon (in this case it will become the responsability of that unicorn as soon as he/she is old enough.

  

The mane 5 will continue their lives in their birthplaces at first, moving or not depending of random factors.

Rainbow Dash may stay in Cloudsdale or not; becoming a rookie in the military or a criminal (who knows!).

Fluttershy will move to anyplace under Cloudsdale (the city moves to bring winter) whenever her family [brother?] rejects her or an oportunity gets offered [her cottage in Ponyville is probably not hers, but provided by the comunity in exchange of animal care].

 

Applejack do not have what is required to be a city pony, so she will come back to the farm regardless.

Rarity obsession with clothes predates the sonic rainboom, she will become a dress...something. She may go to other cities for work or stay in Ponyville to be the bigger fish in the small pond.

Pinkie Pie may become a traveler like Cheese or stay in any town other than Ponyville. She may never learn to bake properly.

I had to take Twilight out because she is the one who was involved in stopping Sunset Shimmer.

So Shimmer is in the human world, no stolen crown, because Twilight is not a princess.

 

Instead, the Sirens eventually discover Sunset Shimmer is a unicorn from Equestria...

Whatever way possible, they ask on how to return back home. Sirens eventually succeed, Sunset Shimmer is turned into their mind slave.

 

Would the Sirens be able to defeat Celestia and Luna? Even Cadence? 

 

Step by step:

Sunset Shimmer came back to Equestria to stole a powerfull magical SOURCE [the alicorn amulet may do the trick]; to gain (relatively) great power in the other world [has almost no magic whatsoever]; acquiring an army of mentally weak young disposable slaves that will fight (and die) for her without having any choice.

  

If the magical source if not powerfull enough, she will just keep it in the other world, becoming the local unnoposed ruler. If instead surpass her calculations [how it happened with the Element of Magic], she will bring her dream of replacing Celestia and ruling her Kingdom true.

  

In the first scenario, the Sirens will become aware of her; with Adagio making some questions (acquiring INTEL) before trying to absorb her magic. Depending of what she found, she may try to obtain the location of the portal or defeat Sunset.

 

If successfull in collecting the information, the sirens may skip Sunset altogether (they have no reason to fight her having so much safer magic to get in Equestria); leaving her to rule CHS.

In the second case they will probably win a magic battle [because Sunset sucks as a villain]; gaining extra power AND the location of the portal (they do not really need to keep control over a unicorn, after she gives them some guidance about modern Equestria she will be dumped/released).

  

If they remain undetected, they could gain power slowly on remote places [much like TIREK]; finally gathering great ammount of ponies as their servants and protectors (moving from place to place, increasing their numbers and spreading hate).

 

By the time the princesses get to notice of them, the ammount of chaos and multiple small civil wars generated by their negative energy will consume all of their efforts (Celestia can not just NUKE all innocent civilians in the way to get were the Dazzlings are and defeat them); at some point evacuating their area [leaving behind the dominated ponies] will be easier than fighting an endless futile war with them.

[cmarston1 5,964]

I highly doubt the season 5 finale affected Rainbow Rocks.

Friendship Games on the other hand actually was affected.

Twilight couldn't go to the human world because she was busy dealing with Starlight Glimmer.

But that's the most I can see the finale affecting any of the EQG movies.

[SilverComet 170]

I highly doubt the season 5 finale affected Rainbow Rocks.

Friendship Games on the other hand actually was affected.

Twilight couldn't go to the human world because she was busy dealing with Starlight Glimmer.

But that's the most I can see the finale affecting any of the EQG movies.

 

What he (the O.P.) was trying to ask, is how Sunset Shimmer and the Dazzlings stories in C.H.S. could have being developed in each of the other alternate timelines.

  

The events of EG3 would never had happened as in the movie; tough most of EG1(Through the Mirror) and the coldstart of EG2:(RainbowRocks) had events that will keep happening [unless the mirror in the side of Equestria is destroyed/disabled in the first year after the return of Nightmare Moon, blocking the access to thief!Sunset].

  

EG1: Regardless of the nonsense behind the initial "intel" & "logistics" Sunset Shimmer somehow acquired before jumping into Equestria; she has the clear intent of getting a device cappable of storing or generating magic and move it to C.H.S. before activating it.

  

EG2: When magic is released in C.H.S. it brings the attention of Adagio Dazzle (she feeled before actually watching the green column of dark energy).

Even if Sunset Satan escapes to Equestria with her army before the sirens could see it, there is always a posibility of someone else watching the massive exodus of demons and zombies into the statue (or they may use their necklaces as sensors, knowing there was magic somewhere in that school recently, eventually finding the statue).

Edited December 8, 2015 by SilverComet